FAILED 18.07.06 Ferrets54 for Civitates (Patron: Octavian)

**Justinian** · July 18, 2006, 09:19 AM

Ferrets54 (Usernotes: 11)

Why I should be a civitate.

I should be a civitate because I am a very active member with amusing and excellent posts who, overall, is mostly well liked. I behave myself sufficiently to be a civitate, and don't really cause any trouble. I mean like, compared to goatse and what not what I do is trifles. My hair smells of strawberries.

No paragraph from Octavian.

**Spiff** · July 18, 2006, 09:26 AM

He has too many notes for me to consider voting yes.. his threads arent generally that great either, though his Political Profile thread is pretty good.

Overall, i have to vote no. Maybe i would reconsider when his warnings expire and he manages to post well for a month or two

**Perikles** · July 18, 2006, 11:18 AM

Is it actually possible for a Civitate to be proposed when having active warnings?

And wasn't he suspended just recently? (again)

**Spiff** · July 18, 2006, 11:26 AM

Yes by the Patronization Act the only literal requirement is that a candidate have 100 posts minimum and be a "contributing member". All we have to decide is first whether his contributions have a positive or negative effect on the community, and second, if they do have a positive effect, are they to the standard we would want to be representing the rank of Civitate. This will vary between members of the CdeC of course. What i generally say is 'if it isnt a definite yes, then its a no'

Anyway yeah im pretty sure he was suspended for some length of time recently.

**Wild Bill Kelso** · July 18, 2006, 11:53 AM

Vote no.. I like the guy.. but cannot vote yes.

**Fabolous** · July 18, 2006, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by jp26991

Is it actually possible for a Civitate to be proposed when having active warnings?

Yes. Actually, a civitate has even passed(unanimously, in fact) with an active warning. Granted it was an exceptional case, but it might have happened before that as well.

Originally Posted by jp26991

And wasn't he suspended just recently? (again)

I am almost sure, but sometimes I get people confused.

Any member of staff could confirm.

Lets see. Smart, funny, and above all clever. Also doesn't follow the rules. And I have coem to believe that he doesn't follow the rules simply to not follow the rules. Now I often agree with ferrets about unfair treatment of him, but should civitates even be putting themselves in that posistion?

I like ferrets, but I cannot make him a civitate.

**imb39** · July 18, 2006, 11:57 AM

If intelligence was the only criteria, I would vote yes. He has changed a lot but it is too early for this particular vote...

**Perikles** · July 18, 2006, 12:44 PM

I have to vote no, he has active warnings and may get suspended again, that is not really the example of a civitate we want...

But when his warnings expire I'd definitely vote Yes!

**imb39** · July 18, 2006, 01:54 PM

He currently has two active warnings and a number of cautions (3 in the last 2 months).

**Ó Cathasaigh** · July 18, 2006, 02:06 PM

Now I often agree with ferrets about unfair treatment of him, but should civitates even be putting themselves in that posistion?

I'd disagree. He get's away with way more than anyone else in the forums history.
I'm thinking Octavian should recieve a warn or something for sending this in. Seriously, no paragraph from him. No persuasiveness in Ferrets paragraph. 11 user notes. It's a waste of time.

By the way, I voted no, with gusto.

**imb39** · July 18, 2006, 02:24 PM

Octavian will not get a warning for this. He is perfectly allowed to put forward anyone he sees fit, the rules are not hard and fast. Octavian just views things differently... If Octavian sends three failed proposals, then he MIGHT be investigated, but that has never been done and it would be a pretty serious step to take.

With that, he fails. not enough votes left. I shall PM both parties...