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    THE DA VINCI CODE ...



    <= THE TRUTH WENT THAT WAY =>


    Hello all ...


    I have only skimmed through the book, The Da Vinci Code, because I read it years ago under another name - The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. Dan Brown's novel is basically 'Holy Blood' with dialogue and far less substance.

    When I saw The Da Vinci Code 'blockbuster' film the other week I was relieved that I had not wasted time wading through the book. The plot was incredible, as in the dictionary definition of 'Having a probability too low to inspire belief'. I can understand why there was laughter at some points during its premiere at the Cannes Film Festival.


    If you watched it as just a fantasy story, it was okay if you like that sort of thing. But even as a Hollywood 'thriller' it had more holes than a string vest. A guy carrying 'the secret' is murdered at night in the Louvre Museum in Paris and later the movie's heroes talked at length at the same spot. On both occasions neither incident was detected.


    Yet the Louvre is awash with security cameras and other surveillance systems that would pick up intruders in minutes if not seconds. Some of the most priceless art treasures in the world are there, for goodness sake. And how much noise would a gun make amid the silence and echoes of the Louvre? But no-one, it seems, heard a thing. The whole plot is based on the principle of ... when you need something to happen that would not normally happen, ignore the realities or invent a miracle.


    'Hey, look, I think he's dead.'

    The mega-hyped movie tells the story of Robert Langton (Tom Hanks), a Harvard expert in religious symbolism who spends 24 hours on the run from police who believe he is responsible for the murder of the man in the Louvre. Of course, the hero is innocent and, with his cryptologist companion (long story), he follows the clues in Paris and London to unravel a code left by Leonardo da Vinci and a secret carried through history by secret societies like the Priory of Sion and the Knights Templar.

    This code reveals that 'Jesus' was married to Mary Magdalene and when he died on the cross she and their daughter escaped to France where the bloodline continued and became known as the Merovingian dynasty.

    The 'baddies' are the Vatican secret society, Opus Dei, which is pledged to protect the official Jesus story by killing all survivors of the bloodline and those who know the secret. One of its agents, a mad monk called Silas, is the man who shot the fellah in the Louvre before he could pass on the secret to Robert Langton.



    Silas ... agent of Hopeless Day ...
    I don't know if Dan Brown is knowingly muddying the waters or if he just saw an opportunity to write a best-selling novel from the basic themes of The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail. Either way, the outcome is that some fact is impregnated with a lot of nonsense and its offspring is diversion.

    Yes, there are secret societies manipulating events and many are connected with the Vatican. Yes, the force behind this deceit is based on bloodline and genetics passed on through history. But no, the secret societies are not there to protect or destroy the bloodline of 'Jesus'. The bloodline is nothing to do with 'Jesus', except that the myth is there to hide the truth.


    And Jesus said: 'I am a myth, a symbol of the Sun. Know this and thy shall know that the Da Vinci Code is shite.'
    A scientist friend of David Icke, an avid Christian at the time, set out to prove that Jesus really existed. Very quickly he proved the opposite to himself and became a researcher of the greater conspiracy of which the Christian religion is but a part.


    The man who became known as 'Jesus' can be found in no credible historical accounts outside the New Testament and even committed Christian scholars and academics have had to accept that they have no idea who wrote the Gospels. What they do know is that they weren't written at, or even soon after, the time that 'Jesus' was supposed to have lived.

    In contrast, the story of Jesus can be found, often in detail, in accounts going back thousands of years before Christianity in the story of the 'Sun gods'. One after the other, Tammuz in Babylon, Mithra in Rome and elsewhere, you find the tale of a man, symbolic of the Sun, born on what became December 25th, dying to save our sins, who was called the saviour, the vine, the good shepherd, and so on.



    Jesus, Mithra and a stream of other deities throughout history are symbolic representations of the Sun. How could the Sun, therefore, impregnate 'Mary Magdalene'?

    Here is a summary of the Sun god themes that recur throughout the ancient world:

    The reason why all these narratives are so similar, with a godman who is crucified and resurrected, who does miracles and has 12 disciples, is that these stories were based on the movements of the Sun through the heavens, an astro-theological development that can be found throughout the planet because the Sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe. In other words, Jesus Christ and all the others upon whom this character is predicated, are personifications of the Sun, and the Gospel fable is merely a rehash of a mythological formula (the 'Mythos' as mentioned above) revolving around the movements of the Sun through the heavens.

    For instance, many of the world's crucified godmen have their traditional birthday on December 25th. This is because the ancients recognized that (from an earthcentric perspective) the Sun makes an annual descent southward until December 21st or 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops moving southerly for three days and then starts to move northward again. During this time, the ancients declared that 'God's Sun' had 'died' for three days and was 'born again' on December 25th. The ancients realized quite abundantly that they needed the Sun to return every day and that they would be in big trouble if the Sun continued to move southward and did not stop and reverse its direction. Thus, these many different cultures celebrated the 'Sun of God's' birthday on December 25th. The following are the characteristics of the 'Sun of God':
    • The Sun 'dies' for three days on December 22nd, the winter solstice, when it stops in its movement south, to be born again or resurrected on December 25th, when it resumes its movement north.
    • In some areas, the calendar originally began in the constellation of Virgo, and the Sun would therefore be 'born of a Virgin.'
    • The Sun is the 'Light of the World.'
    • The Sun 'cometh on clouds, and every eye shall see him.'
    • The Sun rising in the morning is the 'saviour of mankind.'
    • The Sun wears a corona, 'crown of thorns' or halo.
    • The Sun 'walks on water.'
    • The Sun's 'followers,' 'helpers' or 'disciples' are the 12 months and the 12 signs of the zodiac or constellations, through which the Sun must pass.
    • The Sun at 12 noon is in the house or temple of the 'Most High'; thus, 'he' begins 'his Father's work' at 'age' 12.
    • The Sun enters into each sign of the zodiac at 30 degrees; hence, the 'Sun of God' begins his ministry at 'age' 30.
    • The Sun is hung on a cross or 'crucified,' which represents its passing through the equinoxes, the vernal equinox being Easter, at which time it is then resurrected.
    SOURCE

    'Jesus' with the halo and cross, both ancient symbols relating to the Sun god - a mythical man symbolising the Sun.

    The Sun god, Sol Invictus (the Unconquered Sun). The halo of rays around his head became the Jesus 'crown of thorns'. The Roman Emperor Constantine, the creator of Christianity as we know it at the Council of Nicea in 325AD, was a follower of Sol Invictus. To him, nothing changed when Christianity became the religion of Rome, except the name of the hero.

    The evidence is so vast for the 'Jesus-is-another-Sun god' scenario and there are so many historical inaccuracies in the literal interpretation of the Gospel stories. Even the very basis of the Christian tale, Jesus being nailed to a cross, is not supported by the Roman laws and punishments recorded in accounts of the time.


    Add all this together and I was understandably bewildered by the 'Jesus bloodline' idea even before it appeared as The Da Vinci Code. I found much of interest in The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail until it came to the central theme of the hidden bloodline of Jesus and the same with the books of Sir Laurence Gardner. I have sympathy with quite a lot of this information until Jesus and his dynasty take the stage.

    The central question of The Da Vinci Code and books on the same theme is this: how can the Sun have children, except symbolically?


    'Fancy an early night, darling?
    Sorry, I have to go out, dear'



    The Sangreal or 'Blood Royal' as depicted in The Da Vinci Code. There is a 'royal' bloodline, as perceived by its advocates anyway, but it's nothing to do with 'Jesus'.
    I wondered if there was some bigger ulterior motive in all this Jesus bloodline stuff, but I put that aside for a while because the theme was not getting the global attention it needed to make an impact on the human psyche. Then came The Da Vinci Code. The global promotion of the book and the film have been extraordinary, fuelled by the protests of the Roman Church.

    The Church and its followers saying the film should be banned or boycotted because its claims are ridiculous is a sight to behold. Applied in reverse it is a call to ban and boycott the Christian Church in all its forms. The claim that Jesus fathered children is no more or less baloney than the Gospel version on which the whole of Christianity is built.



    'We must hide their secret so we can keep hiding our own.'

    Across the world the protests against the movie have come from those who have their own nonsense to defend. In mostly Hindu India, which is also home to 18 million Roman Catholics, Joseph Dias, head of the Catholic secular Forum, began a hunger strike in Bombay and said other people were joining him. 'We want the movie to be banned,' he said.


    What, just because they disagree with it?



    'Boooo, our bollocks is better than your bollocks ... booooo ...'

    Austin Ivereigh, co-ordinator of the Da Vinci Code Response Group, a London-based collection of Catholic clerics and theologians, described the film as a 'Pythonesque' comedy. Yes, in parts it is, but can it compete with the belief that 'God' sent his only begotten son to die on a cross, disappear from a tomb, fly to heaven off a hilltop and consign everyone to hell who refuses to accept that he is their 'saviour'? I think not. When it comes to drivel, the Roman Church plays Superbowl.

    A survey by the Ivereigh group claims to have found that those who had seen the film were now twice as likely to believe the Catholic Church was involved in a cover-up. That's good, but if they go with the Dan Brown/Holy Grail version of what is being covered-up they have mounted the wrong stallion.


    Hey, what a great place to hide the truth ... or, even better, let's put it in a movie ...'
    There is a centuries-old cover up, but its not about Jesus and his lineage. It is the fact that there was no Jesus and the bloodline is not his, but the network of families who came out of Babylon and relocated their 'Church' in Rome. These are the same families under different names still in power today. They were the force behind Emperor Constantine whose Church changed the name of Sol Invictus to what became 'Jesus' and created the global mind-prison called Christianity.

    Through this vehicle, these families plundered the world in the name of 'Jesus', using their befrocked agents, stooges and followers to kill and slaughter on an unimaginable scale to 'Christianise' country after country. In doing so, they forced out of general circulation the very ancient esoteric knowledge held by them within the inner core of their 'Church'. The tiny inner circle understands the Biblical symbolism while the vast outer congregation is ordered and indoctrinated to take it literally. Judaism, Islam, and their like conform to the same structure.

    These are among the secrets held and perpetuated by the Knights Templar, Opus Dei, the Jesuits and all the rest.

    Why no thriller about the real secret that Jesus was another mythical Sun god, Mr. Brown? Now that would have been a real blockbuster and the protests would have known no bounds. Getting it through the Hollywood truth-filter would have been quite a feat, however.


    'Quick, someone wants to tell the real story ... ruuuuuuuun!'
    There are some good things about the Da Vinci Code in that it highlights in the public mind the existence of secret societies that manipulate information and events. The danger is that it is diverting the attention of many into another 'Jesus' cul-de-sac. Christianity, Islam, the New Age and so many more religions have their versions of 'Jesus' and Jesus-the-dad is just the latest.

    Understanding that there was no Jesus would set so many free to open their minds to infinity.

    I have read suggestions many times over the years that the 'Jesus bloodline' story would be promoted and manipulated until large numbers of Christians and others believed it. Once established, an Illuminati operative would be 'found' to be of the bloodline and sold as the rightful leader of the world. I don't know if there is any truth at all in this, but its worth holding on file just in case.

    For now, Da Vinci and his code appear to be the only show in town, but soon, pray, the hysterical hype will fade without too much damage to human perception.

    At one point in the film, a character says: 'I am so glad this ******** is over'. As the closing titles rolled, I could not have put it better.
    ...................................................

    'Do you think we got away with it?'
    'What do you mean, the wooden acting and ludicrous plot?'
    'Yeah.'
    'I hope so, but best get out of here just to be safe.'













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    http://www.historyvsthedavincicode.com/

    This is a more in-depth analysis of the historicity of the book itself, rather than a concise critique of the movie.

    There is a centuries-old cover up, but its not about Jesus and his lineage. It is the fact that there was no Jesus and the bloodline is not his, but the network of families who came out of Babylon and relocated their 'Church' in Rome. These are the same families under different names still in power today. They were the force behind Emperor Constantine whose Church changed the name of Sol Invictus to what became 'Jesus' and created the global mind-prison called Christianity.

    Through this vehicle, these families plundered the world in the name of 'Jesus', using their befrocked agents, stooges and followers to kill and slaughter on an unimaginable scale to 'Christianise' country after country. In doing so, they forced out of general circulation the very ancient esoteric knowledge held by them within the inner core of their 'Church'. The tiny inner circle understands the Biblical symbolism while the vast outer congregation is ordered and indoctrinated to take it literally. Judaism, Islam, and their like conform to the same structure.

    These are among the secrets held and perpetuated by the Knights Templar, Opus Dei, the Jesuits and all the rest.
    Sources?

    Edit: Sorry for my bluntness, but it seems you're exchanging one conspiracy theory for another. Yes, Christian theology is hardly unique and is inspired by other religions such as the sacraficial elements of Mithraism and the cult of Sol Invictus, but to say this was all the handiwork of Constantine is pretty shaky.

    Where is the evidence for these Babylonian migrants? I would Jesus' true message was corrupted long before Constantine legalized the religion.
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    Constantine did not decide the garbage that forms the Christian religion, he simply decided which bits and pieces of garbage would form the Christian religion at the Council of Nicea.

    Same story with all the major religions.

    Sure they all have different names for the god but they all share the same underlying theme which is to scare the living crap out of it's followers, give them a set of rules and tell them to follow them or you'll be sent to hell be the oh so loving man in the clouds.

    Population control as well as mind control and perception limitation. No doubt about it.

    The evidence for the Babylonian migrants is genaology. The major ruling lines of Babylon, including Philp of Macadonia, are clearly connected to the ruling lines of Rome, especially the Piso family.

    Also the evidence for the migration of the Babylonian Church to the Church of Rome is basically on the basis that the Christian religion is a re-packaged version of the Babylonian religion.

    The major Christian chracters - the Holy Trinity are the Holy Trinity of Babylon aswell as Egypt...



    Also the Pope wheres a fish hat symbolising the Babylonian diety Nimrod...



    There is plenty more similarities and shared symbolism between the Religion of Babylon and Christianity.

    Then theres the 250 and counting dieties that all pre-date Jesus that have is exact same story down to the dates, numerology and all that.

    Incredible.

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    Constantine did not decide the garbage that forms the Christian religion, he simply decided which bits and pieces of garbage would form the Christian religion at the Council of Nicea.
    Actually the bishops agreed on it. Whether they were coerced or bribed is open to speculation.

    Same story with all the major religions.

    Sure they all have different names for the god but they all share the same underlying theme which is to scare the living crap out of it's followers, give them a set of rules and tell them to follow them or you'll be sent to hell be the oh so loving man in the clouds.
    Like say... buddhism? Thats a major religion.

    The evidence for the Babylonian migrants is genaology. The major ruling lines of Babylon, including Philp of Macadonia, are clearly connected to the ruling lines of Rome, especially the Piso family.
    Unsupported asseverations.

    Also the evidence for the migration of the Babylonian Church to the Church of Rome is basically on the basis that the Christian religion is a re-packaged version of the Babylonian religion.
    This Babylonian religion would be Zoroastrianism? Or Marduk and his buddies? Babylon was a cultural melting pot, be more specific.

    The major Christian chracters - the Holy Trinity are the Holy Trinity of Babylon aswell as Egypt...
    Women holding babies, symbolic of fertility and therefore a pretty widespread symbol, but are the children theologically similiar to Yeshua? By the way, the virgin and child is not the trinity, which is what you seem to be implying.

    Also the Pope wheres a fish hat symbolising the Babylonian diety Nimrod...
    I'll look into this, where is that picture from?

    Then theres the 250 and counting dieties that all pre-date Jesus that have is exact same story down to the dates, numerology and all that.

    Incredible.
    Not particularly. Religions 'plagiarize' and influence one another and always have done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Have a Clever Name
    Like say... buddhism? Thats a major religion.
    The other ones :tooth:

    Unsupported asseverations.
    The New England Genealogical Society did a research project on it and clearly connected Philip of Macadonia to the ruling lines of ancient Egypt and of Rome, then the Merovingians and therfore all European royalty and last but not least the Bush family.

    This Babylonian religion would be Zoroastrianism? Or Marduk and his buddies? Babylon was a cultural melting pot, be more specific.
    The main Babylonian religion being based on Tammuz, Nimrod and Semiramis - the Holy Trinity of Babylon.

    By the way, a little later on in Egypt, the religious figures there were Isis, Horus - the same diety under another name!

    Women holding babies, symbolic of fertility and therefore a pretty widespread symbol, but are the children theologically similiar to Yeshua? By the way, the virgin and child is not the trinity, which is what you seem to be implying.
    Yeah but you get what I'm saying is that if dieties are shared throughout the religions it means that they are just fairytale stories and why would they perpetuate them? Simple: Control.

    I'll look into this, where is that picture from?
    A book called infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion. And no, it isen't about New Age which by the way is another prison religion.

    Not particularly. Religions 'plagiarize' and influence one another and always have done.
    Which again is evidence of religions being mere fairytale stories :original:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novusordoseclorum
    The other ones :tooth:



    The New England Genealogical Society did a research project on it and clearly connected Philip of Macadonia to the ruling lines of ancient Egypt and of Rome, then the Merovingians and therfore all European royalty and last but not least the Bush family.
    Yeah- another recent study was done too, one that traced a common ancestor for all of humanity back to as recently as 800 A.D.

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    This is hilarious. I read that they weren't the same people, but now I can see that Novusordoseclorum is Novusordo of old, who was a David Icke freak. Needless to say, the best argument against David Icke's conspiracy theories is the fact that he's still alive.
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    The New England Genealogical Society did a research project on it and clearly connected Philip of Macadonia to the ruling lines of ancient Egypt and of Rome, then the Merovingians and therfore all European royalty and last but not least the Bush family.
    I see, could you provide this please?

    The main Babylonian religion being based on Tammuz, Nimrod and Semiramis - the Holy Trinity of Babylon.

    By the way, a little later on in Egypt, the religious figures there were Isis, Horus - the same diety under another name!
    Well, Babylon was famous for its cultural dynamism. In what time frame was it the most prevalent religion, and can you provide sources to back this up?

    Yeah but you get what I'm saying is that if dieties are shared throughout the religions it means that they are just fairytale stories and why would they perpetuate them? Simple: Control.
    Well no all it proves is that religions influence one another. Again, you're placing too much emphasis on control. Yes, I agree, religion can be used to control but that is not its inherent purpose.

    A book called infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion. And no, it isen't about New Age which by the way is another prison religion.
    The only truth? Thats a pretty bold affirmation, and one that holds many connotations with dogma. Provide citations if you wish to construct arguments based around its contents.

    Edit: In reference to the picture, where did the book itself derive the image from?

    Which again is evidence of religions being mere fairytale stories
    No, it isn't evidence that all religion is untrue. There is always a sliver of a probability in the absence of evidence that one religion might be correct, no matter how much they mirror one another. But I will agree that the most prudent assumption is that God does not exist.

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    the New England Historical Genealogical Society and Burkes Peerage, have shown that 33 of the 42 presidents to Clinton are related to Charlemagne and 19 are related to England's Edward III, both of whom are of this bloodline. A spokesman for Burkes Peerage, the bible of royal and aristocratic genealogy based in London, has said that every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most royal genes. Now we can see how and why. United States presidents are not chosen by ballot, they are chosen by blood!

    This same bloodline also includes key Scottish families like the Lords of Galloway and the Comyns; Marie-Louise of Austria, who married Napoleon Bonaparte; Kaiser Wilhelm II, the king of Germany at the time of the First World War; and Maximilian, the Habsburg emperor of Mexico, who died in 1867. On and on it goes into country after country. This bloodline connects into every surviving royal family in Europe, including King Juan Carlos of Spain and the Dutch, Swedish, and Danish royal lines.

    There are others which connect with these names and span the same period and beyond to thousands of years BC. Detailed family trees of the above are available on the Piso Homepage.

    The Piso Homepage researchers also say that the Totse charts, posted in 1992, are overwhelmingly accurate, but a few of the connections made by the genealogical records at the Mormon centre in Salt Lake City have proved to be less than 100%. However, there are so many genealogical links between these bloodlines that the same connections can be made via other routes. The Piso Homepage genealogy is the most up to date in their research so far. Other genealogical sources include the New England Historical Genealogy Society, Burkes Peerage, and a genealogist in the United States, who has been studying and charting the bloodlines of the elite families for 26 years. He wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.

    Here is the NEHGS's results...

    THE FOLLOWING CHART TRACES THE DESCENT OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS. 'GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH' AND 'FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT' FROM 'PHILIP OF MACEDONIA' ( CIRCA 350 B.C.E. ). DEMONSTRATING DIRECT DESCENT FROM THE MAIN CORE OF 'INNER-CIRCLE' FAMILIES.

    PHILIP OF MACEDONIA
    M. OLYMPIAS & PHILINNA
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    LAGOS (THE RABBIT) ALEXANDER THE GREAT
    M. CONCUBINE? M. ROXANNA & STATIRA
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    PTOLEMY SOTER 1
    M. BERENICE
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    PTOLEMY PHILADELPHUS 2
    M. ARSINOE
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    PTOLEMY EUERGETES 3
    M. BERENICE
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    PTOLEMY PHILOPATER 4
    M. ARSINOE 3
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    PTOLEMY EPIPHANES 5
    M. CLEOPATRA 1
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    PTOLEMY PHYSICON 7
    M. CLEOPATRA 2
    M. CLEOPATRA 3
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    PTOLEMY LATHYRUS 8
    M. CLEOPATRA 4
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    PTOLEMY AULETES 11
    M. EUPATRIA (DAUGHTER OF MITHERIDATES)
    _________________|_________________
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    ARSINOE CLEOPATRA 7 (THE CLEOPATRA)
    M. MENNEUS M. JULIUS CAESAR
    | N. MARK ANTONY
    PTOLEMY BAR MENNEUS
    M. CONCUBINE?
    M. ALEXANDRIA REGENT
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    MARIAMNE 1
    M. KING HEROD (THE GREAT)
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    ARISTOBULUS
    M. BERENICE
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    MARIAMNE (ARRIA THE ELDER)
    M. T. FLAVIUS SABINUS 2
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    MARIAMNE (CAECINA ARRIA THE YOUNGER)
    M. SILLIUS DOMITIUS
    M. GAIUS CALPERNIUS PISO
    M. LUCIUS CALPERNIUS PISO

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    MARIAMNE (CAECINA ARRIA THE YOUNGER)
    M. GAIUS CALPERNIUS (CAESONINUS) PISO
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    ARRIUS (ANTONINUS) CALPERNIUS PISO (JOSEPHUS)
    M. BOIONIA PROCILLA SERVILIA
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    POMPEIA PLOTINA CLAUDIA PHOEBE PISA
    M. CORELIUS RUFUS
    M. TRAJAN (THE EMPEROR)
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    DOMITIA LUCILLA 2
    M. JULIANUS CALPERNIUS PISO
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    MARCUS AURELIUS (THE EMPEROR)
    M. FAUSTINA 2
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    CRISPUS COMMODUS
    M. BRUTTIA CRISPINA
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    CLAUDIA CRISPINA
    M. EUTROPIUS
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    CLOVIS CONSTANTIUS 1 (CLORUS)
    M. THEODORA
    M. ST. HELENA
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    EMPORER CONSTANTINE 1 (THE GREAT) CONSTANTINA
    M. LICINIUS
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    LICINIANUS
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    VALENTINIAN 1
    M. JUSTINA
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    VALENTINA JUSTINA
    M. THEODOSIUS MAGNUS 1
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    'ARCHADIUS' CLAUDIUS CLAUDIANUS
    M. EUDOXIA
    M. SIEGSE
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    MEROVECH MEROVEE (THE YOUNG)
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    CHIDERICH CLAUDIOS 1
    M. ANDOVERA
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    CLOVIS 1
    M. EVOCHILDE
    M. CLOTHILDE

    CLOVIS 1 (d. 511 C.E.)
    M. EVOCHILDE
    M. CLOTHILDA
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    CHLOTHAR 1
    M. RADEGUNDA
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    CHILPERIC 1
    M. GALSWITHA
    M. FREDEGONDE
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    CHLOTHAR 2
    M. ( 3 WIVES )
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    DAGOBERT 1
    M. ( 5 WIVES )
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    SIGISBERT 3
    M. IMMACHILDE
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    DAGOBERT 2
    M. MATHILDE
    M. GISELLE DE RAZES
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    SIGISBERT 4
    M. MAGDALA
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    SIGISBERT 5
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    BERA 3
    M. OLBA
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    GUILLAUME
    M. ( 2 WIVES )
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    BERA 4
    M. ROMILLE
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    ARGILA
    M. REVERGE
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    BERA 5
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    HILDERIC 1
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    SIGISBERT 6 ('PRINCE URSUS')
    M. ROTILDE

    SIGISBERT 6 ('PRINCE URSUS')
    M. ROTILDE
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    GUILLAUME 2
    M. IDOINE
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    GUILLAUME 3
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    ARNAUD
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    BERA 6
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    SIGISBERT 7
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    HUGUES 1
    M. ANNA
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    JEAN (JOHN) 1
    M. ISABEL
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    HUGUES
    M. AGNES
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    EUSTACHE 1
    M. MAHAUDE DE LOUVAIN
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    EUSTACHE 2
    M. IDE DE ARDENNES
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    BALDWIN 2
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    MELISENDE
    M. FULK 5 OF ANJOU
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    GEOFFREY PLANTAGENET (THE FAIR) OF ANJOU
    M. MATILDA
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    HENRY 2 (KING OF ENGLAND)
    M. ALIX DE PORHOET
    M. ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE
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    JOHN (c. 1199-1216) *
    M. ISABELLA OF ANGOULEME

    JOHN (SON OF HENRY 2, c. 1199-1216) *
    M. ISABELLA OF ANGOULEME
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    HENRY 3
    M. ELEANOR OF PROVENCE
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    EDWARD 1 (c. 1290)
    M. MARGARET OF FRANCE & ELEANOR OF CASTILE
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    ELIZABTH EDWARD 2 (c. 1307-1327)
    M. FERGUS, LORD OF GALLOWAY M.
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    UCHTRED OF GALLOWAY
    M. GUNNILDE OF DUNBAR (DES. ETHELRED 2, d.1016)
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    ROLAND, LORD OF GALLOWAY
    M. ELENA DE MORVILLE
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    ALAN, LORD OF GALLOWAY
    M. DAUGHTER OF HUGH DE LACY, EARL OF ULSTER
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    HELEN OF GALLOWAY
    M. ROGER DE QUINCY (DES. HENRY 1, FR.,d.1060)
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    ELIZABETH DE QUINCY
    M. ALEXANDER COMYN, 2ND EARL OF BUCHAN
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    ELIZABETH COMYN
    M. GILBERT DE UMFREVILLE
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    ROBERT DE UMFREVILLE
    M. LUCY DE KYME
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    ELIZABETH DE UMFREVILLE
    M. GILBERT DE BOROGHDON
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    ELEANOR DE BOROGHDON
    M. HENRY TALBOYS
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    WALTER TALBOYS
    M. MARGRET TALBOYS
    M. JOAN TALBOYS = ANDREW LUTTRELL
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    SIR JOHN TALBOYS
    M. AGNES COKEFIELD
    M. HAWISE LUTTRELL = SIR GODFREY HILTON
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    JOHN TALBOYS
    M. KATHRINE CIBTHORPE
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    MARGARET TALBOYS *
    M. JOHN AYSCOUGH *

    MARGARET TALBOYS *
    M. JOHN AYSCOUGH *
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    ELIZABETH AYSCOUGH
    M. WILLIAM BOOTH
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    JOHN BOOTH
    M. ANNE THIMBLEBY
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    ELEANOR BOOTH
    M. EDWARD HAMBY
    |
    WILLIAM HAMBY
    M. MARGARET BLEWETT
    |
    ROBERT HAMBY
    M. ELIZABETH ARNOLD
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    CATHERINE HAMBY OF MASS.
    M. EDWARD HUTCHINSON
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    ELISHA HUTCHINSON
    M. HANNAH HAWKINS (1)
    M. ELIZABETH CLARKE (2)
    _________________|_________________
    | |
    EDWARD HUTCHINSON HANNAH HUTCHINSON
    M. LYDIA FOSTER M. JOHN RUCK
    | |
    ELIZABETH HUTCHINSON HANNAH RUCK
    M. NATHANIEL ROBBINS M. THEOPHILUS LILLIE
    | |
    EDWARD H. ROBBINS JOHN LILLIE
    M. ELIZABETH MURRAY M. ABIGAIL BRECK
    | |
    ANNE JEAN ROBBINS ANNA LILLIE
    M. JOSEPH LYMAN 3 M. SAMUEL HOWARD
    | |
    CATHERINE ROBBINS LYMAN HARRIET HOWARD
    M. WARREN DELANO JR. M. SAMUEL PRESCOTT PHILLIPS FAY
    | |
    SARA DELANO SAMUEL HOWARD FAY
    M. JAMES ROOSEVELT M. SUSAN SHELLMAN
    | |
    FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT HARRIET ELEANOR FAY
    M. ANNA ELEANOR ROOSEVELT M. JAMES SMITH BUSH
    |
    SAMUEL PRESCOTT BUSH
    M. FLORA SHELDON
    |
    PRESCOTT SHELDON BUSH *
    M. DOROTHY WALKER *
    |
    GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH
    M. BARBARA PIERCE

    THUS COMPLETES THE FAMILY CHART TRACING TWO U.S. PRESIDENTS' DESCENT FROM PHILIP OF MACEDONIA, CIRCA 360 B.C.E.


    NOTE: GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH WAS NUMBER 41 OF THE U.S. PRESIDENTS. GEORGE BUSH SR. AND JR. ARE COUSINS OF FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT VIA HANNAH HUTCHINSON AND HER BROTHER EDWARD (SEE "ANCESTORS OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS", GARY BOYD ROBERTS).


    REFERENCES:

    • G.B. ROBERTS, "ANCESTORS OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS," 1989.
    • "LE SANG ROYAL DE FRANCE," GEORGES, COMTE DE MORANT, 1922.
    • "DESCENTS FROM ANTIQUITY", THE AUGUSTAN SOCIETY, 1986.
    • ANDERSON’S "ROYAL GENEALOGIES".
    GARY BOYD ROBERTS, C/O N.E.H.G.S., 101 NEWBURY ST., BOSTON, MASS. 02116

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novusordoseclorum
    the New England Historical Genealogical Society and Burkes Peerage, have shown that 33 of the 42 presidents to Clinton are related to Charlemagne and 19 are related to England's Edward III, both of whom are of this bloodline. A spokesman for Burkes Peerage, the bible of royal and aristocratic genealogy based in London, has said that every presidential election since and including George Washington in 1789 has been won by the candidate with the most royal genes. Now we can see how and why. United States presidents are not chosen by ballot, they are chosen by blood!

    This same bloodline also includes key Scottish families like the Lords of Galloway and the Comyns; Marie-Louise of Austria, who married Napoleon Bonaparte; Kaiser Wilhelm II, the king of Germany at the time of the First World War; and Maximilian, the Habsburg emperor of Mexico, who died in 1867. On and on it goes into country after country. This bloodline connects into every surviving royal family in Europe, including King Juan Carlos of Spain and the Dutch, Swedish, and Danish royal lines.

    There are others which connect with these names and span the same period and beyond to thousands of years BC. Detailed family trees of the above are available on the Piso Homepage.

    The Piso Homepage researchers also say that the Totse charts, posted in 1992, are overwhelmingly accurate, but a few of the connections made by the genealogical records at the Mormon centre in Salt Lake City have proved to be less than 100%. However, there are so many genealogical links between these bloodlines that the same connections can be made via other routes. The Piso Homepage genealogy is the most up to date in their research so far. Other genealogical sources include the New England Historical Genealogy Society, Burkes Peerage, and a genealogist in the United States, who has been studying and charting the bloodlines of the elite families for 26 years. He wishes to remain anonymous for obvious reasons.
    George Bush is a decendant of Alexander the Great. It's so clear now

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    You can find stuff like that for everybody.

    http://www.livescience.com/history/ap_royal_roots.html

    Actress Brooke Shields has a pretty impressive pedigree—hanging from her family tree are Catherine de Medici and Lucrezia Borgia, Charlemagne and El Cid, William the Conquerer and King Harold, vanquished by William at the Battle of Hastings.

    Shields also descends from five popes, a whole mess of early New England settlers, and the royal houses of virtually every European country. She counts renaissance pundit Niccolo Machiavelli and conquistador Hernando Cortes as ancestors.

    What is it about Brooke? Well, nothing—at least genealogically.

    Even without a documented connection to a notable forebear, experts say the odds are virtually 100 percent that every person on Earth is descended from one royal personage or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by God
    You can find stuff like that for everybody.

    http://www.livescience.com/history/ap_royal_roots.html
    Sure a lot of us, not all, are very distantly connected to royalty but what I'm talking about is the top-level bloodline members which interbreed in order to keep the genetic structure intact and as pure as possible.

    They call them dragon genes and say it gives them "special powers" and higher-levels of conciousness.

    Look at the work of Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg whom is may I add head of the secret societ - The Royal Court of The Dragon. He talks of the dragon/god race who ruled humanity in ancient times and intrebred with high society to create hydrib bloodline of which they can posesses from another state of existance.

    In other words, posesssion.

    Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands is another high royal who talks of dragon genes. He says that he should rule because he has the most genes.

    A lot of in-fighting happens when they try to determine who should rule by how many dragon genenes are in the blood.

    The Jesuits soon rectified that situation using their puppet Adam Weishaupt and the Rothschilds to form the Illuminati.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novusordoseclorum
    Sure a lot of us, not all, are very distantly connected to royalty but what I'm talking about is the top-level bloodline members which interbreed in order to keep the genetic structure intact and as pure as possible.

    They call them dragon genes and say it gives them "special powers" and higher-levels of conciousness.

    Look at the work of Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg whom is may I add head of the secret societ - The Royal Court of The Dragon. He talks of the dragon/god race who ruled humanity in ancient times and intrebred with high society to create hydrib bloodline of which they can posesses from another state of existance.

    In other words, posesssion.

    Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands is another high royal who talks of dragon genes. He says that he should rule because he has the most genes.

    A lot of in-fighting happens when they try to determine who should rule by how many dragon genenes are in the blood.

    The Jesuits soon rectified that situation using their puppet Adam Weishaupt and the Rothschilds to form the Illuminati.
    It is truly amazing that anyone can take any of this seriously. It's literally no more realistic than me pretending that The Force from Star Wars is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Novusordoseclorum
    Sure a lot of us, not all, are very distantly connected to royalty but what I'm talking about is the top-level bloodline members which interbreed in order to keep the genetic structure intact and as pure as possible.

    They call them dragon genes and say it gives them "special powers" and higher-levels of conciousness.

    Look at the work of Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg whom is may I add head of the secret societ - The Royal Court of The Dragon. He talks of the dragon/god race who ruled humanity in ancient times and intrebred with high society to create hydrib bloodline of which they can posesses from another state of existance.

    In other words, posesssion.

    Prince Bernhard of The Netherlands is another high royal who talks of dragon genes. He says that he should rule because he has the most genes.

    A lot of in-fighting happens when they try to determine who should rule by how many dragon genenes are in the blood.

    The Jesuits soon rectified that situation using their puppet Adam Weishaupt and the Rothschilds to form the Illuminati.
    LMAO! Only registered recently, but have been lurking for a while. But I simply couldn't resist the temptation to reply to this one.
    Your sources/evidence would be...???? And do you have anything even remotely serious? Preferably not wacky conspiracy theories from the outer fringes of the internet, or from someone also believing in ghosts, vampires, powerful reptiles and secret societies so secret that no one know if they even exist. Except for you of course. And why would such a powerful secret society allow you to spew out such blatant truths? You should be eliminated immediately.
    *rushes to the telephone to alert friends in high places...
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    Wow! Wait, hold on a minute, let me get my tinfoil hat. *puts tinfoil hat on head*. Ok, you can keep going now, I just needed to make sure that lord Xenu wasn't listening.
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    THE FOLLOWING CHART TRACES THE DESCENT OF THE AMERICAN PRESIDENTS. 'GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH' AND 'FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT' FROM 'PHILIP OF MACEDONIA' ( CIRCA 350 B.C.E. ). DEMONSTRATING DIRECT DESCENT FROM THE MAIN CORE OF 'INNER-CIRCLE' FAMILIES.

    PHILIP OF MACEDONIA
    M. OLYMPIAS & PHILINNA
    _________________|_________________
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    LAGOS (THE RABBIT) ALEXANDER THE GREAT
    M. CONCUBINE? M. ROXANNA & STATIRA
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    PTOLEMY SOTER 1
    M. BERENICE
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    PTOLEMY PHILADELPHUS 2
    M. ARSINOE
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    PTOLEMY EUERGETES 3
    M. BERENICE
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    PTOLEMY PHILOPATER 4
    M. ARSINOE 3
    |
    PTOLEMY EPIPHANES 5
    M. CLEOPATRA 1
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    PTOLEMY PHYSICON 7
    M. CLEOPATRA 2
    M. CLEOPATRA 3
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    PTOLEMY LATHYRUS 8
    M. CLEOPATRA 4
    |
    PTOLEMY AULETES 11
    M. EUPATRIA (DAUGHTER OF MITHERIDATES)
    _________________|_________________
    | |
    ARSINOE CLEOPATRA 7 (THE CLEOPATRA)
    M. MENNEUS M. JULIUS CAESAR
    | N. MARK ANTONY
    PTOLEMY BAR MENNEUS
    M. CONCUBINE?
    M. ALEXANDRIA REGENT
    |
    MARIAMNE 1
    M. KING HEROD (THE GREAT)
    |
    ARISTOBULUS
    M. BERENICE
    |
    MARIAMNE (ARRIA THE ELDER)
    M. T. FLAVIUS SABINUS 2
    |
    MARIAMNE (CAECINA ARRIA THE YOUNGER)
    M. SILLIUS DOMITIUS
    M. GAIUS CALPERNIUS PISO
    M. LUCIUS CALPERNIUS PISO

    ***************
    MARIAMNE (CAECINA ARRIA THE YOUNGER)
    M. GAIUS CALPERNIUS (CAESONINUS) PISO
    |
    ARRIUS (ANTONINUS) CALPERNIUS PISO (JOSEPHUS)
    M. BOIONIA PROCILLA SERVILIA
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    POMPEIA PLOTINA CLAUDIA PHOEBE PISA
    M. CORELIUS RUFUS
    M. TRAJAN (THE EMPEROR)
    |
    DOMITIA LUCILLA 2
    M. JULIANUS CALPERNIUS PISO
    |
    MARCUS AURELIUS (THE EMPEROR)
    M. FAUSTINA 2
    |
    CRISPUS COMMODUS
    M. BRUTTIA CRISPINA
    |
    CLAUDIA CRISPINA
    M. EUTROPIUS
    |
    CLOVIS CONSTANTIUS 1 (CLORUS)
    M. THEODORA
    M. ST. HELENA
    _________________|_________________
    | |
    EMPORER CONSTANTINE 1 (THE GREAT) CONSTANTINA
    M. LICINIUS
    |
    LICINIANUS
    M. CONCUBINE?
    |
    VALENTINIAN 1
    M. JUSTINA
    |
    VALENTINA JUSTINA
    M. THEODOSIUS MAGNUS 1
    |
    'ARCHADIUS' CLAUDIUS CLAUDIANUS
    M. EUDOXIA
    M. SIEGSE
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    MEROVECH MEROVEE (THE YOUNG)
    M. CONCUBINE?
    |
    CHIDERICH CLAUDIOS 1
    M. ANDOVERA
    |
    CLOVIS 1
    M. EVOCHILDE
    M. CLOTHILDE

    CLOVIS 1 (d. 511 C.E.)
    M. EVOCHILDE
    M. CLOTHILDA
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    CHLOTHAR 1
    M. RADEGUNDA
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    CHILPERIC 1
    M. GALSWITHA
    M. FREDEGONDE
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    CHLOTHAR 2
    M. ( 3 WIVES )
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    DAGOBERT 1
    M. ( 5 WIVES )
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    SIGISBERT 3
    M. IMMACHILDE
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    DAGOBERT 2
    M. MATHILDE
    M. GISELLE DE RAZES
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    SIGISBERT 4
    M. MAGDALA
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    SIGISBERT 5
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    BERA 3
    M. OLBA
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    GUILLAUME
    M. ( 2 WIVES )
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    BERA 4
    M. ROMILLE
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    ARGILA
    M. REVERGE
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    BERA 5
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    HILDERIC 1
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    SIGISBERT 6 ('PRINCE URSUS')
    M. ROTILDE

    SIGISBERT 6 ('PRINCE URSUS')
    M. ROTILDE
    |
    GUILLAUME 2
    M. IDOINE
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    GUILLAUME 3
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    ARNAUD
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    BERA 6
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    SIGISBERT 7
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    HUGUES 1
    M. ANNA
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    JEAN (JOHN) 1
    M. ISABEL
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    HUGUES
    M. AGNES
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    EUSTACHE 1
    M. MAHAUDE DE LOUVAIN
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    EUSTACHE 2
    M. IDE DE ARDENNES
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    BALDWIN 2
    M. CONCUBINE?
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    MELISENDE
    M. FULK 5 OF ANJOU
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    GEOFFREY PLANTAGENET (THE FAIR) OF ANJOU
    M. MATILDA
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    HENRY 2 (KING OF ENGLAND)
    M. ALIX DE PORHOET
    M. ELEANOR OF AQUITAINE
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    JOHN (c. 1199-1216) *
    M. ISABELLA OF ANGOULEME

    JOHN (SON OF HENRY 2, c. 1199-1216) *
    M. ISABELLA OF ANGOULEME
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    HENRY 3
    M. ELEANOR OF PROVENCE
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    EDWARD 1 (c. 1290)
    M. MARGARET OF FRANCE & ELEANOR OF CASTILE
    _________________|_________________
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    ELIZABTH EDWARD 2 (c. 1307-1327)
    M. FERGUS, LORD OF GALLOWAY M.
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    UCHTRED OF GALLOWAY
    M. GUNNILDE OF DUNBAR (DES. ETHELRED 2, d.1016)
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    ROLAND, LORD OF GALLOWAY
    M. ELENA DE MORVILLE
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    ALAN, LORD OF GALLOWAY
    M. DAUGHTER OF HUGH DE LACY, EARL OF ULSTER
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    HELEN OF GALLOWAY
    M. ROGER DE QUINCY (DES. HENRY 1, FR.,d.1060)
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    ELIZABETH DE QUINCY
    M. ALEXANDER COMYN, 2ND EARL OF BUCHAN
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    ELIZABETH COMYN
    M. GILBERT DE UMFREVILLE
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    ROBERT DE UMFREVILLE
    M. LUCY DE KYME
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    ELIZABETH DE UMFREVILLE
    M. GILBERT DE BOROGHDON
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    ELEANOR DE BOROGHDON
    M. HENRY TALBOYS
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    WALTER TALBOYS
    M. MARGRET TALBOYS
    M. JOAN TALBOYS = ANDREW LUTTRELL
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    SIR JOHN TALBOYS
    M. AGNES COKEFIELD
    M. HAWISE LUTTRELL = SIR GODFREY HILTON
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    JOHN TALBOYS
    M. KATHRINE CIBTHORPE
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    MARGARET TALBOYS *
    M. JOHN AYSCOUGH *

    MARGARET TALBOYS *
    M. JOHN AYSCOUGH *
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    ELIZABETH AYSCOUGH
    M. WILLIAM BOOTH
    |
    JOHN BOOTH
    M. ANNE THIMBLEBY
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    ELEANOR BOOTH
    M. EDWARD HAMBY
    |
    WILLIAM HAMBY
    M. MARGARET BLEWETT
    |
    ROBERT HAMBY
    M. ELIZABETH ARNOLD
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    CATHERINE HAMBY OF MASS.
    M. EDWARD HUTCHINSON
    |
    ELISHA HUTCHINSON
    M. HANNAH HAWKINS (1)
    M. ELIZABETH CLARKE (2)
    _________________|_________________
    | |
    EDWARD HUTCHINSON HANNAH HUTCHINSON
    M. LYDIA FOSTER M. JOHN RUCK
    | |
    ELIZABETH HUTCHINSON HANNAH RUCK
    M. NATHANIEL ROBBINS M. THEOPHILUS LILLIE
    | |
    EDWARD H. ROBBINS JOHN LILLIE
    M. ELIZABETH MURRAY M. ABIGAIL BRECK
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    ANNE JEAN ROBBINS ANNA LILLIE
    M. JOSEPH LYMAN 3 M. SAMUEL HOWARD
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    CATHERINE ROBBINS LYMAN HARRIET HOWARD
    M. WARREN DELANO JR. M. SAMUEL PRESCOTT PHILLIPS FAY
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    SARA DELANO SAMUEL HOWARD FAY
    M. JAMES ROOSEVELT M. SUSAN SHELLMAN
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    FRANKLIN DELANO ROOSEVELT HARRIET ELEANOR FAY
    M. ANNA ELEANOR ROOSEVELT M. JAMES SMITH BUSH
    |
    SAMUEL PRESCOTT BUSH
    M. FLORA SHELDON
    |
    PRESCOTT SHELDON BUSH *
    M. DOROTHY WALKER *
    |
    GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH
    M. BARBARA PIERCE

    THUS COMPLETES THE FAMILY CHART TRACING TWO U.S. PRESIDENTS' DESCENT FROM PHILIP OF MACEDONIA, CIRCA 360 B.C.E.
    I was hoping for something in the way of a full in-depth study tracking the lineage step by step and providing evidence all the way. Am I to take this at face value?

    Actress Brooke Shields has a pretty impressive pedigree—hanging from her family tree are Catherine de Medici and Lucrezia Borgia, Charlemagne and El Cid, William the Conquerer and King Harold, vanquished by William at the Battle of Hastings.

    Shields also descends from five popes, a whole mess of early New England settlers, and the royal houses of virtually every European country. She counts renaissance pundit Niccolo Machiavelli and conquistador Hernando Cortes as ancestors.

    What is it about Brooke? Well, nothing—at least genealogically.

    Even without a documented connection to a notable forebear, experts say the odds are virtually 100 percent that every person on Earth is descended from one royal personage or another.
    Precisely, I think the amount of people who are descended from Genghis Khan in Asia is a pretty huge percentage.

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    All you've done is provide a long list of names without supportive evidence. Please, we'd rather be spared the conspiracy theorist insights.

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    It's literally no more realistic than me pretending that The Force from Star Wars is real.
    Of course its not realistic - you don't pretend the force exists, you know it does.

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    Mongoose! Didn't recognise you with that new sig and avatar!

    Novusordoseclorum, how can all these different theories you're putting forward (with no supporting evidence) all be right? Surely you accept that at least one of your theories is wrong?

    I proved that many people have royal blood yet you can't accept it - unless Brooke Shields only got famous by the will of the Illuminati* because of her bloodline?

    *note: the illuminati was a small group that lasted a while and died out. They do not control the world.


    They call them dragon genes and say it gives them "special powers" and higher-levels of conciousness.

    Look at the work of Prince Nicholas de Vere von Drakenberg whom is may I add head of the secret societ - The Royal Court of The Dragon. He talks of the dragon/god race who ruled humanity in ancient times and intrebred with high society to create hydrib bloodline of which they can posesses from another state of existance.
    Do you have any evidence at all?

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    Novusordo is back! Oh, praise the new world order and the alien reptilian puppets they placed as our leaders! Why is all your text so freakishly big? Is it so people would take it doubly serious?

    edit: nice post though, itd be better if the text wasnt so freakishly big. I agree with your bottom line about the da vinci code: hypocrites tried to get the movie and book banned. Okay I agree with you there, I also agree with you about a lot of your other points such as religion is a form of control. But you said so much stuff that there is a lot more that I disagree with you about, especially since you didnt provide any sources. I cant comment on the contantine angle and all the similarities between christianity and the older religions, and I cant say for sure what that does or doesnt mean.
    Last edited by RZZZA; July 18, 2006 at 02:57 PM.

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