End of Antiquity Campaign: The First Crusade (612 - 710)

[Gondolin]

I can't wait to see this mod out, everything has been well done. I'll check regularly. (Rome shall not fall again)

[karaislam]

hi all.since a week i ve been working in 2 jobs.i mean full time day and night.thats why i could not look at modding issues.it seems it ll countinue like that for some time.

[Caudillo87]

Thank you, the past couple of days I have been blue printing the Numerus and Auxillia units and will now start putting them on pc so stay tuned, I should have all of the palatina units finished by tomorrow.

[romano britones]

Will we see the ridge helmet on any of these units?

[Alkimachos]

Will we see the ridge helmet on any of these units?

It was out of date this period...

[Caudillo87]

Every Numerus will have a different kind of Spangenhelm like the ones I made for the Boucellarii as well as the Auxillia.

[Caudillo87]

Numerus Primiscutarii Palatina









The Primiscutarii Palatina were one of the existing palace units in Constantinople as mentioned in the 6th century. They will be recruitable only in Constantinople and only one can be mustered to fight for the emperor.

Credits:
*Leif_Erikson for his Late Roman Shields
*Rusicihi and Absinthia for their primary material

[Wallachian]

I am blown away!+rep

[Caudillo87]

Sorry guys I had just finished putting the finishing touches of the other unit the Auxillia Prima Secunda Gemina but there was a problem with the ms3d file and it won't let me open it again so ill have to start from scratch after 4 hours of work. I still have the file so if anyone knows how to fix a file let me know other than that you'll all have to wait until another time. So sad...

P.s. I was experimenting with a high polygon model that Karaislam gave me, the model you see has a whopping 80000+ vertices and I may have to go back to the Rusichi head model if there is too much lag.

[Razor]

Numerus Primiscutarii Palatina









The Primiscutarii Palatina were one of the existing palace units in Constantinople as mentioned in the 6th century. They will be recruitable only in Constantinople and only one can be mustered to fight for the emperor.

Credits:
*Leif_Erikson for his Late Roman Shields
*Rusicihi and Absinthia for their primary material

NICE!!! I really like it. Though the shield now has two handles (one horizontal - leifs textures - and one verical which you made in 3D). And I see some UV mapping issues on the lower part on the back of the shield.

Sorry guys I had just finished putting the finishing touches of the other unit the Auxillia Prima Secunda Gemina but there was a problem with the ms3d file and it won't let me open it again so ill have to start from scratch after 4 hours of work. I still have the file so if anyone knows how to fix a file let me know other than that you'll all have to wait until another time. So sad...

We've all been there...! Just keep in mind that whatever you'll be redoing it will be even better than the first one. I always tell that to myself and often it's true.

P.s. I was experimenting with a high polygon model that Karaislam gave me, the model you see has a whopping 80000+ vertices and I may have to go back to the Rusichi head model if there is too much lag.

80000+ vertices??!! That's like 110000 polygons! Including all variations in body, faces, equipment etc.? Geesh... And the head appears to be too big compared to the body. I'd recommend trying to run a 20 vs 20 battle with only these units and also a siege battle. For comparison: my units have around 20.000 polygons, but that includes all variations (8 helmets, 8 heads, 8 bodies, 4 legs, 2 greaves, 4 belts & scabbards, 4 pouches, 3 shields, 4 swords, 2 spears, 4 scarfs).
In all fairness - I've said it to Karaislam as well - having such a high-detail head is - to put it bluntly - pretty ridiculous. And, from a designer's perspective, i would be inconsistent if you don't make use of the same detail for the rest of the model. And ingame it could make the head stand out in a bad way due to lighting (for example eyes lighting up because it's in 3D and I believe disconnected from the rest of the face model).
I'm just saying: don't. Adding only a handful of extra polygons to that collar to make it look more round like I suggested a page earlier is one thing, going overboard with this is another...
Again, just saying...

[Hrobatos]

I thought its not too advisable that a whole unit has more than 10 000 vertices, and great work btw! +rep

[AnthoniusII]

TGC has many 25-27000 vertiges models.
They are heavy for most of pcs to hundle..Imagine what will happen with 80000 vertices models in game.

[karaislam]

i can also reduce the polgyon with just a click in maya if necessary.

[karaislam]

relax guys.

my notebook i3 3 gb ram ati 5650.

i was making games with my full arabs.i did not realize a performance issue.

[NekoGenijalan]

My PC can't handle so many verts. So its all map play for me

And those TGC verts are bad news for me... And for most of the players I know.

[Heathen Storm]

My PC can't handle so many verts. So its all map play for me

And those TGC verts are bad news for me... And for most of the players I know.

Don't worry mate. I have a pretty low-end computer and I have no troubles with TGC battles. Even zoomed in

[AnthoniusII]

Don't worry mate. I have a pretty low-end computer and I have no troubles with TGC battles. Even zoomed in

Exactly...We have tested 4 full armies with huge units in the same battlefield without any problem in 3-4 years old pcs and even older.
But we must not forget that moddeling is not a compatition of the bigest detail. Is a matter to allow the player to enjoy the battles visualy.
There lies the thin line between huge details and smooth play game.

[Razor]

Exactly...We have tested 4 full armies with huge units in the same battlefield without any problem in 3-4 years old pcs and even older.
But we must not forget that moddeling is not a compatition of the bigest detail. Is a matter to allow the player to enjoy the battles visualy.
There lies the thin line between huge details and smooth play game.

This ^

[Caudillo87]

Well I think the head itself has like 20000 vertices I probably will change it because I think it will cause the game to run like a slideshow.

and as for the unit I don't think so, it was pretty good the way it was but thanks I appreciate your boast to my morale. The uv mapping ill fix.

@nekogenijalan: don't worry there will only be a few of these units in such a high caliber as I only have a Nvidia gts 450 1024mb...for now any way.

[romano britones]

Will the regular Scutati infantry, as seen on page 19, still appear with the variation in helmet?