crash on select battle

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 10:46 AM

when ever I select to play battle shogunII crashes
it didnt do this yesterday
Ive verified the cache
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**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 11:16 AM

accidental post please delete

**irishron** · August 30, 2012, 11:20 AM

Have you done this, yet? http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=238484
Try installing the High Definition Audio codecs from www.realtek.com.tw as yours are still Microsoft's.
Try updating the motherboard drivers. www.packardbell.com

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 12:48 PM

done the first
so far the realtek driver from that site are corrupted
will try the packard bell site later
but my my point remains what changed between me winning ROTS yesterday and trying FOTS today?

**irishron** · August 30, 2012, 01:03 PM

You read the threads that cover both and there is a difference from RotS to FotS. Yeah, things change and not necessarily for the better.

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 01:55 PM

installed realtek drivers
still crashes with the same error

Problem Event Name: APPCRASH
Application Name: Shogun2.exe
Application Version: 1.1.0.0
Application Timestamp: 50198980
Fault Module Name: ntdll.dll
Fault Module Version: 6.0.6002.18541
Fault Module Timestamp: 4ec3e3d5
Exception Code: c0000005
Exception Offset: 00066626
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 2057
Additional Information 1: 1b2e
Additional Information 2: 2bbe8eb00129265aaf10940811bdb3f6
Additional Information 3: 1cd1
Additional Information 4: bad217a510cbb2301fb967a6da58b11a

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 02:06 PM

on another note - starting a custom battle there are only two units available (two heavy cavalry) to add to my army?
historic battles are unaffected....

**irishron** · August 30, 2012, 02:09 PM

Error code c00005 and 32bit OS says you're running out of memory. You have hit that 4gb ceiling including graphics.
Find a free version Game Booster or shut down what you can safely in msconfig or maybe both.

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 02:31 PM

no, that didnt work, even lowered screen res to 1024x768 still crashed

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 02:38 PM

and changed from DX11 to DX9 still lower res still exact same crash

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 02:49 PM

a C0000005 exception (Access Violation) will result. If this exception is unhandled by the process, then the ‘unhandled exception handler” of the OS will be invoked

its a programming error
this is sloppy programming nothing I do to reduce memory usage will help unfortunately
oh well I guess it back to Empire...

**irishron** · August 30, 2012, 02:58 PM

Or upgrade to 64bit. Not all is sloppy programming.

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 05:08 PM

handling exceptions is a basic programming technique, allowing programs to crash is bad programming,
however it must be some error with ROTS files because FOTS works flawlessly - havent tried SII
how do I check &/or reload ROTS files?

**Alasdair** · August 30, 2012, 05:10 PM

and thats back up to full resolution and high detail..

**Shavoi** · August 31, 2012, 01:01 PM

if you're nvidia then check out beta drivers? there is a fix in notes for "performance issues" 27th aug

**Alasdair** · September 04, 2012, 05:53 AM

after trying http://forums.totalwar.com/showthrea...l=1#post366171 and starting a new game I have now got ROTS to work correctly

**irishron** · August 30, 2012, 05:42 PM

Everybody including me complains about well Total War games are not optimized and I can go back to Medieval One with this one.
You call it bad programming but it can be worked around. Possibly in your case FotS is better optimized.
I have had games, not TW ones, that saves got corrupted because of autoinstallers and automatic virus scans. I shut htem all down especially Microsoft and Adobe.
When Win 7 was released, I upgraded to 64bit on purpose, ETW.
The minimum specs since Warscape are joke in my eyes unless someone really takes the time it nedds to make it work and willing to put up the crashes, hanging, etc. that come with minimum systems and most players are not willing to.
I have personally found recommended specs too low for decent play and I'm far from a graphics hog or a fps fanatic.

You can take this up at http://forums.totalwar.com, and contact Sega support to voice your dispkeasue.
This backwater site only gets a CA dev here when they want something. We do have forums for other games besides total War, too. Blizzard for one.