play as the senate without the game crashing

**Legio Canada** · July 16, 2006, 08:09 PM

hey everybody! i was just wondering if there is anyway to play as the senate without the game crashing at any point. THANKS!!!

**Zuwxiv** · July 16, 2006, 08:15 PM

I have never played as SPQR, but I thought as long as you didn't click on the faction scroll it wouldn't crash.

Other than that, I don't think there is a way to prevent the game from ever crashing - it crashes even under normal play, but the player isn't supposed to be able to play as the Senate. (although it can be interesting to play as other factions - I like Armenia, Pontus isn't bad, Dacia has some interesting points, and Iberia is great, especially with some extra units modded in (Iberian Spearmen, sacred band)

But back on the topic at hand, I think there are just a couple of problems with playing as an unintended faction. Do you have it updated to the most recent version? (1.5)

And welcome to TWC!

**Legio Canada** · July 16, 2006, 09:53 PM

i have 1.5 and it still crashes when i play as the senate.

**Zuwxiv** · July 17, 2006, 02:10 AM

Originally Posted by Legio Canada

i have 1.5 and it still crashes when i play as the senate.

Have you edited the files at all? Or have you installed any mods? You might want to try just uninstalling the game and reinstalling it. It's a pain, but it generally fixes problems.

And Surlethe, welcome to TWC as well!

**Surlethe** · July 17, 2006, 02:24 AM

Originally Posted by Zuwxiv

And Surlethe, welcome to TWC as well!

Thank you! I hope to learn a lot about R:TW here.

Originally Posted by Rommen

it only crashes for me when i click on anything to do the the senate, like the senate offices list and the senate page that has all the other stuff in in, like the policy

Yeah, inside the factions scroll. If you think about it, it makes sense: if you are the Senate, there's no need to know the offices or the policies, since you set those yourself (actually, I'm fairly certain the computer commanding the Brutii, Julii, and Scipii will follow the same script regardless, but ... ).

**Kaidonni** · July 17, 2006, 04:15 AM

Just don't click on the Senate tab or the Senate Offices button, and you should be fine. Winning with them may cause a CTD, I don't know. And as for how to win...eliminate the other Romans first. Don't keep them. Just get rid of them. Fullstop. Having all of Italy, first off, should be a great boost to your economy and position.

**Rommen** · July 19, 2006, 05:42 AM

Yeah, inside the factions scroll. If you think about it, it makes sense: if you are the Senate, there's no need to know the offices or the policies, since you set those yourself (actually, I'm fairly certain the computer commanding the Brutii, Julii, and Scipii will follow the same script regardless, but ... ).[/QUOTE]

Yes, becuase the juli took segesta and the scipii aplonnia (spelling??)

**Surlethe** · July 17, 2006, 01:59 AM

Originally Posted by Zuwxiv

I have never played as SPQR, but I thought as long as you didn't click on the faction scroll it wouldn't crash.

Bingo. I've found that the faction scroll is the only thing that crashes it. Now, winning with the Senate is an entirely different matter; there is a fundamental problem with trying to maintain an agressive, expansionist army with only one city, however rich that city may be. I've tried to invade Carthaginian territory; that seems the most immediate solution, but there may be other expansionary strategies as well.

**Rommen** · July 17, 2006, 02:20 AM

it only crashes for me when i click on anything to do the the senate, like the senate offices list and the senate page that has all the other stuff in in, like the policy