Reasons to play the first shogun

[Pico total war]

Who plays the first shogun yet? and why?

I post here because my question is for shogun 2 players

I played it: it's a good game but I think after TW:S2 its time is over

[Erwin Rommel]

I still play it. Hell I even played the shogun mod for MTW, but its just not the same.....too many random clans like Honda in Mikawa then year starts in 1400s

Jidaigeki strategy games are too few and way fewer in PC, so I need all the games I can get.

Besides its nice addition to my netbook when I'm not on the PC. And Takeda 3 does not support 1024x600 resolution sadly.

Hell I still have Takeda 1 demo, its still enjoyable, fiddling with formations, countlessly replaying Kawanakajima over and over again.......

Oh wait, this is about Shogun 1.

[Humble Warrior]

The original Shogun?

I thought it was all over for the original Shogun when MTW came out as that did a lot more to the game.

STW2 does have a better Campaign system (although it needs it with ships). BAI is not that much better when you compare it to a decade`s old game. It really should be much, much better than it is.


If you`re talking about graphics, then yes it`s better, but graphics don`t a game make for me and I still hate that mass wall climbing all the time twaddle in STW2, even when they have rifles and cannons now.

Funnily enough I still have the ingame waffle on CA`s views on Sieges on the original STW. I remember reading it in detail. They left sieges out because they were `boring`.

I guess times change.

p.s. I still have the original STW, MTW though, just in case Steam does that `I don`t feel like letting you play` crap.

[InferiorBeing]

Who plays the first shogun yet? and why?

I post here because my question is for shogun 2 players

I played it: it's a good game but I think after TW:S2 its time is over

Errr...

I think Shogun 1 from 2000's time might be over, yes.

[Crazyeyesreaper]

prefer the origina SHogun, at leaest when you recruit units they have a chance of the general in said unit being a famous general which works wonders for immersion.

[Erwin Rommel]

Not for me.

Date Masamune as leader of a Sohei unit I just recruited in Echizen as the Uesugi?

THEN BECOMES HEIR AFTER KAGEKATSU? Major turn off. The only thing good was the initial turn coz some famous ones are already decked out with stars to boost unit's honor which is back then how they show veterans............after that. gets weird.

[Crazyeyesreaper]

not quite ive had the likes of Shibata Katsui, Toshie Meada, Masanori Fukushima, Mitsuhide Akechi and many more show up and when recruit them and yea i will admit heir apparent thing and masamune being part of the Uesugi was lets face it really friggin dumb but the old game still has its charm it still holds up well for fun. But yea certain factions are really screwed, that said ODA was perfect never had issues their lol and the Historical Campaigns were fairly challanging i still get beaten now altho i think thats bad UI / impossible to see whos ally enemy etc lol but yea. Still fun to play and the famous leaders and generals really put Shogun 1 on top for me vs Shogun 2, It took Sekigahara mod for STW 2 to register that missing flaw even then its not perfect. really wish CA would implement unit leaders and they can be swapped asigned to various units much like Takeda 3 then it would be perfect.

[Confucius]

Well, for me, the original Shogun at least got somethings right, such as having the Imagawa as a playable faction unlike S2. They were a major clan you know. . The music were better; S2 still uses some of the original Shogun soundtrack. Also, the ninja/geisha cutscenes were better then S2, and to an extent more hysterical.

Obviously, without a doubt, the campaign system have improved over the years, as they had over ten years to experiment with the game mechanics through the release of several hit titles, such as Rome TW, Medieval 2 and so on. I remember reading somewhere where, Kieran, had said that CA has finally got the know how and technology to do what they had always wanted to implement on the original Shogun when making S2 because at that time, they did not have the capability to do so. The technology at that time deterred them from trying to express what they wanted to do in the game before.

Nonetheless, the Original Shogun will always have a special place in my heart. In my opinion, it was the release of Medieval 2 that made the great leap forward in terms of game mechanics of the Total War series.

[AngryTitusPullo]

Haven't played it for a long time since I moved to Win 7 after XP. I remember that you only get your income every 4 turns. Koku is really tight there. Nice feature which I missed.

[hochmeister devin]

Ive never played it because it was way before my time, but ive heard there are kensai units which are 1 guy and are like impossible to kill.

[Humble Warrior]

Ive never played it because it was way before my time, but ive heard there are kensai units which are 1 guy and are like impossible to kill.

lol.
Yea. He was a ridiculous pain. He was ONE guy on the battlefield, but he was able to kill hundreds of people. I remember when I first met him on the battlefield, I threw a group of Samurai at him. He killed them all -about 200 men! I was like `WTF???` then I threw a second lot, with a third behind and a fourth in. Finally, he died. I think he killed about half my army!

And I thought the Geisha was `ard!

I wasn`t on the forums then (still kinda rare), so I never found out what all that was about. I guess that was a nod to the over-the-top samurai in Japanese movies where one guy is so good he kills thousands by himself?

STW2 is a lot ore realistic when you consider there`s no such ridiculous uber unit.

[hochmeister devin]

lol.
Yea. He was a ridiculous pain. He was ONE guy on the battlefield, but he was able to kill hundreds of people. I remember when I first met him on the battlefield, I threw a group of Samurai at him. He killed them all -about 200 men! I was like `WTF???` then I threw a second lot, with a third behind and a fourth in. Finally, he died. I think he killed about half my army!

And I thought the Geisha was `ard!

I wasn`t on the forums then (still kinda rare), so I never found out what all that was about. I guess that was a nod to the over-the-top samurai in Japanese movies where one guy is so good he kills thousands by himself?

STW2 is a lot ore realistic when you consider there`s no such ridiculous uber unit.

I kind of want to make a kensai unit now... I think I may do that later today since modding before 10 am is bad for my sleep.

[T-Duke]

Just "hard" played one year with Darthmod and get a lot of fun... now ready and playing with "Road to Kyoto" mod and I like it very much. Rome II can definitely wait for me
But if you mean vanilla version then yes, I get enough of it just a couple of weeks after its release...

[zhiphius]

Who plays the first shogun yet? and why?

I post here because my question is for shogun 2 players

I played it: it's a good game but I think after TW:S2 its time is over

I play it once in a blue while when nostalgia hits me , it retains a certain charm even now =)
+ as some mention it has some features missed in S2.
I remember i loved the feature where if you didnt kill of a clan entirely with all their children etc, there was a chance the heir/descendant would rise in rebellion and ressurect his clan ^^

Mmm should install it again :o gosh, *runs of to find the decade old cd's*

edit: i forgot that massive instruction book that came with it.....so much historical facts :o

[zhiphius]

god damn, cant find the mongol invasion cd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfe7Q9Bl_Y vid for you guys =) (not mine, but hey its ol shogun gameplay!)

and i have to figure out how to make the game even launch >.< ah well

a "lets play" showing lots of how the first shogun worked back then =) the odd campaign alternatives (i miss that!) and the odd clan provinces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0e1R...ture=endscreen

[whitmore33]

god damn, cant find the mongol invasion cd

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIfe7Q9Bl_Y vid for you guys =) (not mine, but hey its ol shogun gameplay!)

and i have to figure out how to make the game even launch >.< ah well

a "lets play" showing lots of how the first shogun worked back then =) the odd campaign alternatives (i miss that!) and the odd clan provinces
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0e1R-YOU8U&NR=1cohiba siglo 6&feature=endscreen

@Pico
You want a reason? just check the videos above and then tell me if you want more reasons...
the most important reason is that because it is awesome game...

[hochmeister devin]

Heres the link to the Kensai unit I said I would make.


http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=559468

[Confucius]

Guys, heres a ninja compilation of Shogun 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzUs1...ture=endscreen

The funniest parts are 2:20 and 5:08. hahaha, CA should consider comedy btw.