Rothschild places bet of £130 million that Euro zone will collapse

**truth1337** · August 26, 2012, 11:41 AM

http://www.nationell.nu/2012/08/19/l...faller-sonder/
"Lord Rothschild is betting £130 million that the Euro zone will collapse"
What do you think, is he pulling the old "Napoleon won at Waterloo" style hoax again, or should his bet be considered an indication that the Euro zone will collapse?

After Waterloo, Rothschild spread a false rumor that Napoleon had won at Waterloo by publicly selling all his war bonds. This caused others to sell their war bonds in panic for under-price, while Rothschild's agents secretly bought up all war bonds. This allowed him to 10 double his money and gain control over the British National Bank at the time.

If this new manouvre is the same, is it an indication that he wants to cause panicked selling of Euros for under price, in order to buy up the Euro zone for almost nothing? Or is his bet sincere?

**~~Basil II the B.S~~** · August 26, 2012, 12:22 PM

of course these criminals always get a way with it..

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · August 26, 2012, 12:30 PM

English source for this latest anti-Semitic bollocks?

**fkizz** · August 27, 2012, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

English source for this latest anti-Semitic bollocks?

Are we now so phobic of being racist we can't even aprove of history any longer? The Rothschild Waterloo feat has been confirmed over and over, it's not "evil jews", even today you can pull bets that fool the public, in fact Goldman Sachs did this before 2008 and shorted against the bets they told their clients to do, the Rothschild Gambit is no "jewish plot", it was a jew doing in large scale a trick sometimes done by powerful players (both jews and non-jews) in this kind of risky investment evironments, it's up to the wise investor to be protected and careful about it.

It's also true that Jews end up being associated with banking/bankers often, and there are actually historical reasons behind such. Being a Banker is not a crime though.

Madoff was a Jew, or suddenly his fraud is a myth because I'm associating jew with fraud and I can't do it therefore Madoff guilt in the case is a myth?

Nothing against Jews, highly dislike racism, but phobia and obsession on not being racist and overly forcing it won't bring any good either.

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · August 28, 2012, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by fkizz

Are we now so phobic of being racist we can't even aprove of history any longer? The Rothschild Waterloo feat has been confirmed over and over

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_...hschild#Legend

The myth emerged in an anti-semitic pamphlet four decades after the Battle of Waterloo.

**fkizz** · August 28, 2012, 09:50 AM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_...hschild#Legend

The myth emerged in an anti-semitic pamphlet four decades after the Battle of Waterloo.

Ad-Hominem. Richard Wagner was also anti-semitic, does that mean that his music is fake or to be ignored?

Also OP might be anti-semitic like you say, but this waterloo feat has been mentioned several times by non-antisemitic people. Going that it's fake because it's OP, that's another Ad Hominem.

Well I'm glad you're politically correct, but this type of feat like Rothschild did is still done today by non-jews included, nothing would stop him of having done that in 1815, if nothing stops investments banks of doing it today in 2012, even if at a smaller scale.

tl;dr - what he did is not conspiracy theory material and can find parallels in any timespan of risk investment including today

Or are you saying jews are automatically saints and only non-jews perform such things? That's being racist towards non-jews, ironically

Ever been involved in risky investment? I can bet you haven't

**truth1337** · August 28, 2012, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by fkizz

Ad-Hominem. Richard Wagner was also anti-semitic, does that mean that his music is fake or to be ignored?

Also OP might be anti-semitic like you say, but this waterloo feat has been mentioned several times by non-antisemitic people. Going that it's fake because it's OP, that's another Ad Hominem.

Yep, the funny thing is, the wikipedia article says the research that "proves that to be an anti-semitic legend" actually was done by... *drumroll* Rothschilds

Originally Posted by fkizz

Well I'm glad you're politically correct, but this type of feat like Rothschild did is still done today by non-jews included, nothing would stop him of having done that in 1815, if nothing stops investments banks of doing it today in 2012, even if at a smaller scale.

tl;dr - what he did is not conspiracy theory material and can find parallels in any timespan of risk investment including today

Thanks!

Originally Posted by fkizz

Or are you saying jews are automatically saints and only non-jews perform such things? That's being racist towards non-jews, ironically

Yep, this is what I hope my posts are showing. Why can't unrighteous Jewish individuals be criticised without "anti-semite" accusations? I've tried a long time to understand it and the only explanation I can think of is the racism in the Talmud, which makes statements that "even the best of gentiles deserve to be killed", and "to eat with a gentile is like eating with a dog", and racism such as the Hamitic myth, and so on. Or Rabbi Yosef (not just any village rabbi, but the LEADING Jewish rabbi in Israel) who says "gentiles exist only to serve Jews", and so on. There must be something fundamentally racist about defending unrighteous people of your own race over righteous people of other races and of accusing those who protest against it of "racism". What's also scary is that this thread wasn't even criticising a Jewish individual, but rather referring to an act he had provably done (placed a bet), and setting it in relation to a historical event by one of his predecessors. The giving of a moral value to this act lied in the eyes of the beholder, not in the post.

As you stated, it's a pretty normal act for any business man to attempt a bluff to make others sell something when it is really good to buy it. The only thing I can think of that sets the Rothschilds apart in moral standing, is their alleged financing of Hitler (not sure on that one), and the proven acts of the first Rothschild with forcing the young men of Hessen to work as mercenaries abroad so he could make money off of them. But these subjects weren't even mentioned...

**Gandalfus** · August 26, 2012, 12:33 PM

Haha. Rep for emperor ferrets ^^.
But it is a matter of debate whether it is actually sincere or not, but looking at the Rothschilds history, (filled with madness and crimes) then he is probably looking to buy it.

**~~removeduser_487563287433~~** · August 26, 2012, 12:34 PM

Oh and the Waterloo lie has been discredited as anti- Semitic propaganda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild

In reality, he helped fund the war, and was a great briton. Something that I am glad infuriates idiot nazis.

**truth1337** · August 26, 2012, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by Ferrets54

Oh and the Waterloo lie has been discredited as anti- Semitic propaganda:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan_Mayer_Rothschild

In reality, he helped fund the war, and was a great briton. Something that I am glad infuriates idiot nazis.

Ah the highly reputable wikipedia!

**s.rwitt** · August 26, 2012, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by truth1337

Ah the highly reputable wikipedia!

Certainly more reputable than Stormfront.

**truth1337** · August 26, 2012, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by s.rwitt

Certainly more reputable than Stormfront.

Notice the 3 other links above? For example "The daily telegraph"? But hey, it says a person of Jewish race did something which someone may indirectly believe is not moral, therefore it must be anti-semitic hatred towards all Jews who ever existed and ze evil nazi UFOs from the moon are coming again.

**Menelik_I** · August 26, 2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by s.rwitt

Certainly more reputable than Stormfront.

The only great thing I saw on Stormfront was a thread debunking Afrocentrism, but it sad because of the lack of self-awareness of their own racism as they debunked the dumb racist POV.

**frozenprince** · August 26, 2012, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by truth1337

Ah the highly reputable wikipedia!

See the source tags? Just click those,there ya go, wiki is a reliable way to do basic research.

I'm waiting for a post of yours that isn't about the evil Jews, oh, I'm sorry, "Zionist Marxists".

**Gandalfus** · August 26, 2012, 12:34 PM

The second baron Rothschild had dinner with monkeys, funfact. It is currently impossible to tell if he is sincere or not.
PS: or it could be anti Semitic Propoganda.

**Fernandez_1492** · August 27, 2012, 08:48 AM

so did soros

**frozenprince** · August 26, 2012, 12:35 PM

English, non-racist nor Neo-nazi source. That's also important. Seeing as the only thing I could find when trying to research the Nationell is racist stories. Maybe another of our Swedish members can explain just what it is?

Edit: after extensive reading using google translate... it's a Racist web site. Use a better source.