Mega awesome AI scripts!

**Úlairi** · August 26, 2012, 10:34 AM

So I always play TW games on M/M which gives no advantages or disadvantages to the player or the AI, the diplomacy makes sense, economic blocade works and so on, the best and most realistic and logical settings all around. Playing TATW on normal though you get loads of super godawful annoying illogical only one way working stuff like the teleporting garrison directly from the other dimension script, all kinds of amazing miraculous huge armies spawn, now this new invasion from the butt thing and so on. I get that some players prefer any kind of challenge no matter how unrealistic and illogocal it is, still I think these things should be completely optional and should not be in the default version or there at least should be a way to unpainfully disable them. So how do I disable these stuff or do I need submods for that and which ones? I also don't want submods to add new super cool scripts instead of these, I want the vanilla like sandbox with equal terms for the player and AI. Please help me, thanks in advance.

**uddhava** · August 27, 2012, 07:54 PM

Check here:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=509455

**Son of Mars** · August 27, 2012, 08:18 PM

Check Here:

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=417435

I too play M/M because I'm not good enough and don't have the time to handle VH campaign setting. But, I'm sorry, this mod is about good v. evil middle earth style. It would be terrible if you could just walk into Mordor which Boromir states cannot happen!

You could pretty much roflstomp the factions who are supposed to be powerful, which isn't fun at all. Stainless Steel offers exactly what you're looking for just without the Third Age Total War stuff.

**Úlairi** · August 28, 2012, 12:35 PM

First of all, dear god why does it take 2 days to approve the thread or something.

Originally Posted by Son of Mars

But, I'm sorry, this mod is about good v. evil middle earth style. It would be terrible if you could just walk into which Boromir states cannot happen! You could pretty much roflstomp the factions who are supposed to be powerful, which isn't fun at all.

Exactly, when I play Mordor I expect to be the

ing dark lord or whatever as in big bully throwing scared kids around, which is lore friendly. The bully is not supposed to be punked by stack spamming and whatnot.

Originally Posted by Mhaedros

How on earth is it painful to open a file and delete a couple of lines?

It's not save compatible and not all the stuff can be disabled that way. The aforementioned stainless steel for example has a nice installer thing with lots of options.

Originally Posted by Macilrille

You will not get that, for the player has something the AI does not; a brain...

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Originally Posted by Alaeron

Vanilla was never equal

I am aware of that. Equal rules does not mean equal abilities. The AI also has its strengths - e.g. it can micromanage a million little armies, agents, provinces on global map etc. when the player would die of boredom. Also, doing math, e.g. naval battles in empire. I always play defensively, never ever rush, never exploit AI's weaknesses and I'm perfectly happy with logical and realictic equal rules for everyone.

If you happen to know a submod which fixes this like baron samedi's which I've played some time ago please let me know.

**Ngugi** · August 28, 2012, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by Úlairi

First of all, dear god why does it take 2 days to approve the thread or something.

It don't, it just sometimes bugs so that you can't see your own posts [in this case an OP] while it's actually there. As soon someone else care to reply the issue solves itself and you can see it all

Encountered it myself a few days ago, not a common problem though

**Wowwars** · August 27, 2012, 08:50 PM

Aye Stainless Steel is a mod you may want, and its a very damn good one except that i seem to crash on it more than any other mod.

**Mhaedros** · August 27, 2012, 11:45 PM

How on earth is it painful to open a file and delete a couple of lines?

**Macilrille** · August 28, 2012, 12:41 AM

I want the vanilla like sandbox with equal terms for the player and AI.

You will not get that, for the player has something the AI does not; a brain...

**Alaeron** · August 28, 2012, 04:57 AM

Vanilla was never equal, the AI was way too stupid even on VH/VH (like leaving 2-3 troops tops in most settlements). I felt all those AI cheats were cheap at first so I went back to vanilla for a while and I couldn't stomach how pathetically one-sided for me it was.

There's no time limit so take it easy. Build up, advance methodically, and when you strike, strike hard. You can't annihilate factions right off the bat like in vanilla.

**Macilrille** · August 28, 2012, 12:53 PM

First of all, dear god why does it take 2 days to approve the thread or something.

What are you talking about?

If you happen to know a submod which fixes this like baron samedi's which I've played some time ago please let me know.

There is one indeed, my favorite mod; MOS.

**Dutch-Balrog** · August 28, 2012, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by Macilrille

What are you talking about?

There is one indeed, my favorite mod; MOS.

100% yeash!

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?t=419958

**Mhaedros** · August 28, 2012, 02:05 PM

It's not save compatible and not all the stuff can be disabled that way. The aforementioned stainless steel for example has a nice installer thing with lots of options.

What exactly can't be disabled?

**pattimang** · August 30, 2012, 02:57 AM

Aye Stainless Steel is a mod you may want

**Rhaenys Targaryen** · September 01, 2012, 09:48 AM

I recommend MOS, then you'll be able to activate/deactivate the scripts you want and the ones you don't want from the beginning of any of your campaigns.