Will there be a future release that is...

[Mr Kriegtooth]

The entire Warhammer Fantasy world, or that which we know of in terms of geography and units(Discounting Nippon and the Chinese style Empire that I forgot's name...)

Finally been playing this alot, and even though its huge and im not noticing it that much, but still kinda missing Bretonnia, and wheres the Skavens? Gotta have those rat..you knows. And you know, go to the New World or whatever(Ugh, I have forgotten Fantasy terms, been too into 40k recently...), with the Dark Elves and Lizardmen

Just curious

[Scholtae]

as I recall the issue is the culture limit, with only one slot left thats likely to go to Brettonia, Lizardmen would be realy difficult as you'd have to add a wole new continent, I guess they could have a lizardmen expidition but that would hardly be fluffy as the lizardmen tend to keep to them selves on Lusturia. but still Brettonia or tomb kings are probably gonna get the last culture slot.

[GreatSword]

The empire could always be consolidated into say, 3 factions. we really dont need 10 or whatever it is. They are nearly identical

[WAR monger]

I understand the mod teams issues with not being able to put in every faction due to the limitations, sure. But I do expect the fundamental factions of Warhammer to be represented in some form as this mod progresses.

In my opinion, Skaven shouldn't have their own faction, mostly because it would take up a slot that would be useful for a faction that could be in the campaign. Skaven are from the underground, so having them as rebels will do, imo.

What would be cool is using the custom campaign feature to make other mini campaigns in the Warhammer world. Maybe a Crusades campaign in Araby or a New World campaign with the Lizardmen.

Eh, the team is doing their best.

EDIT: Just found out, With Kingdoms the game has over 30 faction slots available. This mod only fills up around 22 at this version, however, it doesn't hurt to be economic with the choices though.

[Outlawstar15a2]

The empire could always be consolidated into say, 3 factions. we really dont need 10 or whatever it is. They are nearly identical

Faction and culture slots are two different things.

[Doktor Soviet]

Or hell, even one faction. I would like to see them using the Red and Blue Aftland State Trooper colors and just be one faction. Then we could have quite a few more factions!

[Doktor Soviet]

Or hell, even one faction. I would like to see them using the Red and Blue Aftland State Trooper colors and just be one faction. Then we could have quite a few more factions!

Oops, I missed the quote button (why is reply even there, it should just be quote me thinks) but I still don't know why we would need so many cultures. Just make 1 culture for the humans and have Kislev, Brettonia, and Empire, and the Border Princes be part of it. You might be able to get away with one of the 7 being undead, with tomb kings and sylvania, then chaos and the chaos dwarves and the dark elves could certainly share one if need be, high elves and wood elves could share one, and dwarves could have one of there own. If Araby and possibly the Eastern nations were present, they could share the human one too.

If it is a must, you can have the elf factions share then lop lizardmen in with their own or possibly chaos, and beastmen could be chaos as well.

Problem solved, I guess.

[Ethien]

I personally have always thought the Empire should be consolidated, where instead you have area of recruitment indicating the various baronies, principalities and counties. However, I also understand that the Elector Counts do lead their own armies and their own individualism wouldn't be able to be displayed. It's a tricky situation, so I can't say I have a solution to that issue. It is true that there is a lot of similarity between the factions, so that too is an issue, but that can't be helped due to the aforementioned situation.

Skaven are a very unique faction with various clans, that they would do very well as a new faction so we do disagree there. Estalia and Araby wouldn't have much unit variety, so a lot of vanilla units could be retrofitted for their creation.

Edit: To clarify, what I mean by lacking unit variety. I mean the creation of new units, outside of what would work from the vanilla units.

[WAR monger]

I personally have always thought the Empire should be consolidated, where instead you have area of recruitment indicating the various baronies, principalities and counties. However, I also understand that the Elector Counts do lead their own armies and their own individualism wouldn't be able to be displayed. It's a tricky situation, so I can't say I have a solution to that issue. It is true that there is a lot of similarity between the factions, so that too is an issue, but that can't be helped due to the aforementioned situation.

Skaven are a very unique faction with various clans, that they would do very well as a new faction so we do disagree there. Estalia and Araby wouldn't have much unit variety, so a lot of vanilla units could be retrofitted for their creation.

Edit: To clarify, what I mean by lacking unit variety. I mean the creation of new units, outside of what would work from the vanilla units.

Oh well my standpoint on Skaven was only me under the impression of only one faction slot left. Since there are others I wouldn't mind have Skaven as a new faction, though I'd rather have them treated as the Beastmen.

[Mr Kriegtooth]

If we are at 22 factions, then I'd say theres enough room for the Tomb Kings, Skaven, Bretonnians, Lizardmen, and Ogres. The map could be easily extended I think, it feels small enough to alot of expansion could be done

Dunno what to have as basic units for the Estialians and such though. I'd say make them rebel factions, and cities would have units of mercenaries and such. Maybe. Or just reuse Empire units with a little reskinning to make them more like what we would know as representing those countries

[Ethien]

Estalians are essentially Spanish renaissance if you look at their army list, so a lot of vanilla units fill that gap.

[Kahvipannu]

I really don't like the idea of making Empire combined. There is difference between them, specially in the canon, and I just think it's bad idea of gameplay wise, like one of my favourite features, which is a faction turning to Chaos would be gimped pretty much. I don't like to play powerhouses, making Empire f.ex. 3 combined factions would leave you with 3 huge factions, it would make the expansion/help others start of the campaign way too easy at current state. If factionslots are full, and new essential races need to be added as playable factions, then yes, merging one or two would be ok. What is currently the faction limit in M2?

[Mr Kriegtooth]

Faction limit is 31, and unit limit is 500 I think

And yeah, unless it became absolutely neccessary, wouldnt combine the Empire at all...the fluff for that doesnt work too well I think

[Mr Kriegtooth]

Whats culture anyway? o_O I dont get that

[Kahvipannu]

Whats culture anyway? o_O I dont get that

It's a thing that determines some elements for the faction, like UI, event pictures, it can be trigger for ancs/traits, general pictures, etc, various things.. It's called southern_european, greek, etc...

There is hardcoded limit of cultures in M2, and RotDG currently uses: HE and DE are northern_european, Empire factions and Sylvania are southern_european, Dwarfs and CD? are greek I think, Orcs are Middle_estern, and Chaos is Nord_culture or something like that, and Kislev is eastern_european(?). Or something like that if I remember right.. 6 in use, 7 is the limit after the release of Kingdoms.

Religion has nothing to do with culture, so they are separate things.

If a faction like Tombs or Bretonnia, or Skaven would be added, they are so different from the rest that are currently included, imo they really need own culture to present the faction in good way. Wood-elves could use current generic elf theme maybe, with addition of some new event pictures. Ofcourse if the faction is not playable, then the culture don't matter as much.

[Grymloq]

I would suggest to make a custom campaign that covers another area (for example the New World), so we could play both Storm of Chaos as it is now and this hypothetical campaign. This is probably an almost impossible solution but it would be great!

[Mr Kriegtooth]

Probably not impossible, because this is the hugest mod ive ever played XD The team must be massive to get this thing going

Also, is there a plan for a free play kinda mod? I would like a little more freedom...but then again, ive done pretty good, and well, nothing wrong with some scripted invasions, especially by the beastmen

Stinky dang goat men....

[Ethien]

Probably not impossible, because this is the hugest mod ive ever played XD The team must be massive to get this thing going

Also, is there a plan for a free play kinda mod? I would like a little more freedom...but then again, ive done pretty good, and well, nothing wrong with some scripted invasions, especially by the beastmen

Stinky dang goat men....

I would check the submod section. I know The Holy Pilgrim had one going, but I'm not sure if he's still keeping that up to date.

If I had the knowledge, I would change the invasions to be several years in between. The Beastmen were always an omnipresent threat, but they wouldn't rally challenging numbers every couple of years to invade Imperial provinces. It should be a blue moon sort of thing, as to present a challenge that you have to monitor. But also to keep from being a tedious chore.

[Mr Kriegtooth]

Yep, they seem pretty good in my campaign. After the intial challenge of getting them out of Middeheim area(and then taking Marienburg from them, for epic win), they are just around enough for me to have fun with

And then Chaos comes and kills everything

[Kahvipannu]

To be honest, I don't like that setup at all.. I would rather keep Sylvania with current Empire culture, than put it together with Tomb Kings (basically Egypt). They have way more common with each other, and basically nothing with Tombs. Kislev and Empire maybe, but still Kislev don't have much common with Empire than both being men, totally different. Bretonnia again is totally different than Empire.. Chaos and DE definitelly don't fit at same culture at all, rather would keep the common elf culture.

And switching around cultures now is tremendous load of work... I would rather see that effort of work to put in different areas.

And Empire one faction, do I even need to say anything, with current campaign and map, that woud need remake of about everything to balance things up. And why destroy current amazing setup of different principalities, they all are own factions afterall.