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    That's what New Hampshire sheriff candidate Frank Szabo would do.

    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/n-h-...top-abortions/





    Now, he has apologized and backed off from his statements, but really, it should be a career killer. A law officer should be respecting the law, not killing people based on his own moral beliefs when those things are completely legal under the law.
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    Wowzer, now Americans are citizens even before they're born. Can't wait to see them voting. As all good caring mothers are naturally Republican and not baby-killing liberals, this should double the GOP's electoral success.
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    Congratulations religous right. Statements by extremists such as this man,Glenn Beck,or Sarah Palin continue to push you further from the support of mainstream Americans. I'm sure this will be enthusiasticly received by the American public. Completly.
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    “The SEALS removed one threat to America. Remove the other in November,” reads a controversial billboard currently on display along I-35 in North Texas.


    Boom. SEALS. That billboard is jizzing patriotism all over I-35 as you read this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post

    Boom. SEALS. That billboard is jizzing patriotism all over I-35 as you read this.
    its about time the navy got some love on this site
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    Quote Originally Posted by s.rwitt View Post

    Boom. SEALS. That billboard is jizzing patriotism all over I-35 as you read this.

    ok, for one of the few times ever that got an actual RL lol. (This may have something to do with the amount of relentless I am currently drinking to get over work but hey, and the mind bending Centron-Drekstruck remix I am listening to. )

    On topic: the man is an idiot, until and unless he is stupid enough to go past mouthing off, nothing to see (I hope his career is screwed, but that is for the electorate.)
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    Um, guys, the billboard in question was commissioned by a former mechanic in the Air Force.
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    well this is embarrassing...
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    Violence against doctors and clinics that perform abortions is not new.
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    Ah....... stupid sheriff says stupid thing. This should turn into the stupid billboard thread instead.



    Last edited by Darth Red; August 24, 2012 at 08:15 AM. Reason: continuity

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Almost made me pro choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Ah....... stupid sheriff says stupid thing. This should turn into the stupid billboard thread instead.



    This is exactly why I am pro-choice. It kills more future democrats.
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    Anti-abortion violence is most frequently committed in the United States,[citation needed] though it has also occurred in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. G. Davidson Smith of Canadian Security Intelligence Service defined anti-abortion violence as "single issue terrorism".[2] A study of 1982–87 violence considered the incidents "limited political" or "subrevolutionary" terrorism.[3]


    David C. Nice, of the University of Georgia, describes support for anti-abortion violence as a political weapon against women's rights, one that is associated with tolerance for violence toward women.[5]
    Anti-abortion violence is recognized as a form of Christian terrorism.[6] Some supporters of such violence embrace this designation.[7]
    United States

    Murders

    In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[8][9]

    • March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
    • July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility, the Ladies Center, in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003. The clinic in Pensacola had been bombed before and was also bombed subsequently, in 1984 and 2012.
    • December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
    • January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
    • October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.



    Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping

    According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]

    • August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
    • July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
    • December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
    • October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
    • January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.

    Arson, bombing, and property crime

    According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[12] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[16] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[17] Incidents have included:

    • December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[18][19][20] The clinic, the Ladies Center, would later be the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994 and a firebombing in 2012.
    • May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]
    • October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[22]
    • May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]
    • September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building, who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[27]
    • June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in $6,000 in damages.[22][28]
    • July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22]
    • December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[29]
    • September 11, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[30] Time magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[31]
    • April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[32]
    • May 9, 2007: An unidentified person deliberately set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Virginia Beach, Virginia.[33]
    • December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[34][35]
    • January 22, 2009 Matthew L. Derosia, 32, who was reported to have had a history of mental illness[36] rammed an SUV into the front entrance of a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minnesota.[37]
    • January 1, 2012 Bobby Joe Rogers, 41, firebombed the American Family Planning Clinic in Pensacola, Florida with a Molotov cocktail; the fire gutted the building. Rogers told investigators that he was motivated to commit the crime by his opposition to abortion, and that what more directly prompted the act was seeing a patient enter the clinic during one of the frequent anti-abortion protests there. The clinic had previously been bombed at Christmas in 1984 and was the site of the murder of Dr. John Britton and James Barrett in 1994.[38]


    • April 1, 2012 A bomb exploded on the windowsill of a Planned Parenthood clinic in Grand Chute, Wisconsin, resulting in a fire that damaged one of the clinic's examination rooms. No injuries were reported. On April 3, the FBI arrested 50-year-old Francis Grady on charges of "arson of a building used in interstate commerce" and "intentionally damaging the property of a facility that provides reproductive health services".[39]

    Anthrax threats

    The first hoax letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting; since then, there have been 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.[13][40]

    • November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. On December 3, 2003, Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare.
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    I don't see how abortion doctors should be treated differently than any other murderer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCWife View Post
    I don't see how abortion doctors should be treated differently than any other murderer.
    So, you're justifying murder with murder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSutekh View Post
    So, you're justifying murder with murder?
    Utilitarian principle. Sacrifice the few for the sake of the future many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OCWife View Post
    Utilitarian principle. Sacrifice the few for the sake of the future many.
    Then you'd be fine if you were murdered as well? In case you choose to murder an other human being of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSutekh View Post
    Then you'd be fine if you were murdered as well? In case you choose to murder an other human being of course.
    If I murder children everyday, then I should be eliminated.

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    Wait wait wait. Let's look at that Wikipedia article again:


    Anti-abortion violence is most frequently committed in the United States,[citation needed] though it has also occurred in Australia, Canada, and New Zealand. G. Davidson Smith of Canadian Security Intelligence Service defined anti-abortion violence as "single issue terrorism".[2] A study of 1982–87 violence considered the incidents "limited political" or "subrevolutionary" terrorism.[3]
    See what I'm seeing?

    Anti-abortion violence is most frequently committed in the United States,[citation needed]
    [citation needed]
    I could very well imagine that this is the case, but if we are going to rush in Wikipedia articles, they better use proper citations for those rather weighty statements.

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    Shouldn't you just kill the mothers? If there wasn't a demand for abortion then there wouldn't need to be a supply.

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