What is the purpose of abortion?

[truth1337]

I can understand abortion for rape victims, but for all other cases, what's the purpose of abortion? Is it because people think there's a "right" to be able to have sex with people they don't love so it doesn't matter if the condom breaks? Really, what's the purpose of abortion that makes some loud left-wing extremists keep yelling at basically any ethnic white country that doesn't want free abortions almost all the way up to the 9th month?

[I WUB PUGS]

To get rid of an unwanted pregnancy.

[truth1337]

To get rid of an unwanted pregnancy.

Expelling an unwanted invader from a woman's body. It doesn't matter wheter or not life begins at conception. The right to abortion is grounded in the right to self-ownership.

Giving people control of their body in arrangement to effectively plan when, where and with whom they wish to pursue the formation of a family with offspring

Thanks for your replies, but I still feel my question hasn't been answered... Why not skip the act of reproduction, when you don't want to reproduce?

Do we also have "a right" to have excessive amounts of food without becoming fat? Or "a right" to be awake all night without being tired? Or "a right" to stab ourselves in the gut without getting injured?

Sex is the act of producing offspring, so why do it with someone you don't love i.e. aren't prepared to have offspring with? Is it really good to encourage people to have sex just for the superficial part of it, without any sort of connection to love, because they know there's always a way out?

[OCWife]

Do we also have "a right" to have excessive amounts of food without becoming fat?

Lipo suction. Abortion is just like lipo suction, except you have to sacrifice a helpless person's life every time you do it.

[truth1337]

Lipo suction. Abortion is just like lipo suction, except you have to sacrifice a helpless person's life every time you do it.

Exactly. Which makes me wonder, are these people all going to claim lipo suction is "a right"? Or do they only support abortions to be "a right"? If mankind stops taking the consequences of more and more of her actions, mankind will degenerate pretty quickly.

[Claudius Gothicus]

Exactly. Which makes me wonder, are these people all going to claim lipo suction is "a right"? Or do they only support abortions to be "a right"? If mankind stops taking the consequences of more and more of her actions, mankind will degenerate pretty quickly.

OK, read about the biological functions present in Hormones. Then see how they affect behavior, then comeback with the ''degenerate humanity'' speech.

[Claudius Gothicus]

Thanks for your replies, but I still feel my question hasn't been answered... Why not skip the act of reproduction, when you don't want to reproduce?

Hormones.

[Gatsby]

Thanks for your replies, but I still feel my question hasn't been answered... Why not skip the act of reproduction, when you don't want to reproduce?

Do we also have "a right" to have excessive amounts of food without becoming fat? Or "a right" to be awake all night without being tired? Or "a right" to stab ourselves in the gut without getting injured?

Sex is the act of producing offspring, so why do it with someone you don't love i.e. aren't prepared to have offspring with? Is it really good to encourage people to have sex just for the superficial part of it, without any sort of connection to love, because they know there's always a way out?

There's no way to eat lots and not get fat.

There is a way to have lots of sex and not have children - condoms, pills, and abortions for when they dont work. Sex is awesome (not that I've ever fully had it), and there's no need to wait for the love of your life before you do it.

[truth1337]

There's no way to eat lots and not get fat.

There is a way to have lots of sex and not have children - condoms, pills, and abortions for when they dont work. Sex is awesome (not that I've ever fully had it), and there's no need to wait for the love of your life before you do it.

Having nice food is also awesome. Playing the devil's advocate here - why should we not introduce the infrastructure to provide cheap regular lipo suctions for everyone so they can eat more? Why wait until they've burnt those calories, until they can have yet more nice food?

[Gatsby]

Having nice food is also awesome. Playing the devil's advocate here - why should we not introduce the infrastructure to provide cheap regular lipo suctions for everyone so they can eat more? Why wait until they've burnt those calories, until they can have yet more nice food?

Liposuction won't clear up cholesterol in your arteries, and the burden of being chubby is not equivalent to that of a child.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Thanks for your replies, but I still feel my question hasn't been answered... Why not skip the act of reproduction, when you don't want to reproduce?

Do you know how babies are made?

[OCWife]

Do you know how babies are made?

I can teach you...interactively.

[Enemy of the State]

Expelling an unwanted invader from a woman's body. It doesn't matter wheter or not life begins at conception. The right to abortion is grounded in the right to self-ownership.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Expelling an unwanted invader from a woman's body. It doesn't matter wheter or not life begins at conception. The right to abortion is grounded in the right to self-ownership.

oh come on, we all know one's stance on abortion is pretty arbitrary and one argument is as good as another.

Playing devil's advocate here, doesn't an unborn child have a right to self ownership?

[AqD]

oh come on, we all know one's stance on abortion is pretty arbitrary and one argument is as good as another.

Playing devil's advocate here, doesn't an unborn child have a right to self ownership?

Yes, but not the right to forcibly occupy someone else's belly. All unborn babies violate others' rights.

[Fallenempire]

oh come on, we all know one's stance on abortion is pretty arbitrary and one argument is as good as another.

Playing devil's advocate here, doesn't an unborn child have a right to self ownership?

Not in my opinion, they are parasitic life forms that does nothing beneficial to its mother other than the chance that it will one day fall out of her vagina and be absolutely dependent on her for 18 plus years. If she doesn't like those prospects its within her right to terminate that life form. I think conservatives are way to into how strangers live their lives, haven't they ever heard of "live and let live" Its such a much easier philosophy than "DO EVERYTHING MY WAY OR DIE!!!!!!"(Hyperbolic, i know). Personally i don't care about zygotes or unborn fetuses, if every pregnant woman on the planet was to suddenly have a miscarriage, i would feel bad for the lady's that were looking forward to having a baby but generally wouldn't care about the baby's. I just don't see how abortions warrant any lost sleep or heartbreak or whatever when fully developed human beings with lives and aspirations,loves,passions and family are needlessly dying every single day.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Not in my opinion, they are parasitic life forms that does nothing beneficial to its mother other than the chance that it will one day fall out of her vagina and be absolutely dependent on her for 18 plus years.

Adoption is also an option you know. Don't act like abortion is the only choice. Or there's, you know, not getting knocked up. I am a pretty promicuous young fellow and am not a father.

[Fallenempire]

Adoption is also an option you know. Don't act like abortion is the only choice. Or there's, you know, not getting knocked up. I am a pretty promicuous young fellow and am not a father.

would plan b be one of those choices or is that not within your moral sphere also

[OCWife]

Not in my opinion, they are parasitic life forms that does nothing beneficial to its mother other than the chance that it will one day fall out of her vagina and be absolutely dependent on her for 18 plus years. If she doesn't like those prospects its within her right to terminate that life form. I think conservatives are way to into how strangers live their lives, haven't they ever heard of "live and let live" Its such a much easier philosophy than "DO EVERYTHING MY WAY OR DIE!!!!!!"(Hyperbolic, i know). Personally i don't care about zygotes or unborn fetuses, if every pregnant woman on the planet was to suddenly have a miscarriage, i would feel bad for the lady's that were looking forward to having a baby but generally wouldn't care about the baby's. I just don't see how abortions warrant any lost sleep or heartbreak or whatever when fully developed human beings with lives and aspirations,loves,passions and family are needlessly dying every single day.

Your reasoning is very sound. I propose that we also eradicate other parasitic life forms in society, such as the Jews, Blacks, Gays and Russians. Hitler was ahead of his time. He was condemned in the past, and it took half century for humanity to finally realize his virtues. Hitler is celebrating in his grave that his ideals are now praised and systematically practiced in "free" nations around the world.

[Fallenempire]

Your reasoning is very sound. I propose that we also eradicate other parasitic life forms in society, such as the Jews, Blacks, Gays and Russians. Hitler was ahead of his time. He was condemned in the past, and it took half century for humanity to finally realize his virtues. Hitler is celebrating in his grave that his ideals are now praised and systematically practiced in "free" nations around the world.

Well i don't consider fetuses human beings, not yet anyways, so my reasoning doesn't transcend to minorities, the homeless or what have you.I'm not in favor of genocide of any kind . But i guess you would consider all the abortions a kind of genocide, well it's not forced or systematic,also how can you kill something that's not fully alive?