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    Last night in Denmark a Eid-festival in the suburb Vollsmose ends in shootings, stabbings, and a hit n' run driving, and up to 80 armed gang members attacking the hospital which the gun victim was taken to! The law-enforcement present there was unable to keep the mob at bay, as it broke into the hospital terrorizing the employees and patients a like. Fate of the gun victim is unknown.

    Throughout today the danish police has been rounding up suspects.
    Now the University Hospital of Odense is seriously considering employing armed guards as a result. Threats of further rioting has been issued by the involved gangs as a response to the arrests.

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    This is another shinning example of the ghettos in Europe and the problems they pose. Personally I think the government should simply round all gang members up and deport anyone with a criminal record.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Now the University Hospital of Odense is seriously considering employing armed guards as a result.
    That would have just escalated the situation, don't you hear gun control advocates.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    This is another shinning example of the ghettos in Europe and the problems they pose
    To much welfare gives people the means to life depraved and criminal lives without having to worry about getting a job.

    I never managed to get a job as a student in the UK but some dunce from my country with barely a year as asylum seeker get +£50 for doing nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    To much welfare gives people the means to life depraved and criminal lives without having to worry about getting a job.

    I never managed to get a job as a student in the UK but some dunce from my country with barely a year as asylum seeker get +£50 for doing nothing.
    Yeah, because the criminality in countries without a welfare system is soooooooooooo much lower!

    Grow up and try to open a sociology book on the subject.

    About the event, I do not believe it will happen again any time soon. As of hiring security guards, it would be pointless. You can protect yourself against small criminality with a security unit quite effectively if it's well run but in such case of high offensive, there is no way you could stop it without being prepared for such an attack. Against 80 guys with weaponry, even a police station of average size wouldn't have sustained the attack. That guy must have seriously pissed off a lot of the local mobs.

    About the "ghetto" history, can you be more specific? because without understanding Danish, the origin of the gangsters is nowhere to be found...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guidrion View Post
    sociology
    The science which create excuses for the sake of individual absolution ... and I don't read books about it, better use them to save toilet paper.
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    « Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    The science which create excuses for the sake of individual absolution ... and I don't read books about it, better use them to save toilet paper.
    Yes, let's all stop thinking because screw progress, right? Nothing like a good ol' shot in the face 'cause life was so much better before, right?

    You can try to put all immigrants of first, second and third immigration out, you won't get a criminality-free society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guidrion View Post
    Yes, let's all stop thinking because screw progress, right? Nothing like a good ol' shot in the face 'cause life was so much better before, right?

    You can try to put all immigrants of first, second and third immigration out, you won't get a criminality-free society.
    Of course giving people free money for bogus asylum claims in the thousands is really progress.

    Lots of young people in the UK can't find jobs and yet the government finds money to shove to fraudsters and that is social progress ?

    Is it too mentally challenging to separate legal working immigration from fraudster asylum seekers welfare queens ?
    « Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
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    I'm not the guy here advocating for armed guards at hospitals...

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    A little update on this from Danish sources: 6 arrests have been made both in connection to the shooting and the incident at the hospital. Some sources suggest that riots may break out as a response to the arrests. There are still nothing definite about the motive, guesses are on a clash between two immigrant groups with a possible biker gang connection. The gunshot/stab victim was wearing a bulletproof vest (but was shot/stabbed in the legs)

    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    This is another shinning example of the ghettos in Europe and the problems they pose. Personally I think the government should simply round all gang members up and deport anyone with a criminal record.
    I think our lenient justice system in Denmark is to blame, and maybe the slow pace of the political process. Changing laws take too long compared to the development in the society. If those doing the shooting and rioting are actually caught they will most likely be sentenced less than a year, while in other news from Denmark, a counterfeither just received two years for photocopying money bills.
    I do however think deportations are a bad idea. The countries of origin of these young boys parents (or grandparents) have enough problems on their own without criminals grown in our part of the world. They are our problem and should be dealt with here.
    Just think of the Danish murderer Peter Lundin who was deported from US to Denmark after having served only 8 years for killing his own mother. He later killed two small boys, something that would not have happened if he had not been deported instead of kept in jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holger Danske View Post
    Now the University Hospital of Odense is seriously considering employing armed guards as a result.
    Back in the good old days the hospitals of Knight Hospitalers would never have this problem.
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    Europe screwed itself with the immigration laws. At least the majority of our illegals come to the States as what is essentially willful slave labor. You guys harbor people asking for asylum by the 10's of thousands and they bring nothing to the economy.

    We really only do this for Cubans...........................yeah they don't work either. Preferential business loans (all they ever open up are restaurants and cafes) from the Fed along with every benefit under the sun because they come from some piss ant island we had issues with 60 years ago.

    All your neo-nationalist parties may be really funny and kind of scary if you compare them to Nazis, but let's be honest, they DO have a leg to stand on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Europe screwed itself with the immigration laws. At least the majority of our illegals come to the States as what is essentially willful slave labor. You guys harbor people asking for asylum by the 10's of thousands and they bring nothing to the economy.
    You say that like we here in the US have somehow crafted an even quasi-logical immigration policy? Despite the fact that the only thing our two parties can agree on is that immigration policy is broken.

    In fact we dont really have an "immigration policy" to speak of.

    If we were smart we would've passed the dream act and ensured the smart ones stick around and pay some taxes. Instead it seems like most high immigration states have adopted a policy based around...




    So no, I wouldnt say europe is doing significantly worse with their immigration legislation.

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    Mexicans come here to work, you can hate on them for being Mexican or decry our sovereignty being breached, but there is a big difference between a million Pablos and Marias coming over the border to work in the kitchens and pick produce and the hundreds of thousands of "refugees" in Europe who barely muster any effort in finding gainful employment unless you consider the occasional riot as employment.

    When was the last time our illegals rioted?

    Oh yeah, never.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Mexicans come here to work, you can hate on them for being Mexican or decry our sovereignty being breached, but there is a big difference between a million Pablos and Marias coming over the border to work in the kitchens and pick produce and the hundreds of thousands of "refugees" in Europe who barely muster any effort in finding gainful employment unless you consider the occasional riot as employment.

    When was the last time our illegals rioted?

    Oh yeah, never.

    What? Hate on mexicans? Decry our sovereignty? I dont understand how thats related to my comment?

    I dont know alot about european immigration, is it safe to assume these "refugees" are mostly not considered deportable illegals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsktrogdor View Post
    What? Hate on mexicans? Decry our sovereignty? I dont understand how thats related to my comment?

    I dont know alot about european immigration, is it safe to assume these "refugees" are mostly not considered deportable illegals?
    We don't need an immigration policy unless you believe in "they terk er jerbs!". The only bit of our policy that people bother about is the fact that brownies stream over the southern border.

    Our primary focus should be on letting crazies in through our airports. We still let people through with questionable backgrounds because we have nowhere to put them.

    Mexicans are the issue, that's why we have the border fence debate and drug trafficking debate and the medicare debate.

    I say it's all fine with me because I like paying jack for my tomatoes.

    I'm for "guest workers" to shut up the "terk er jerbs" crowd but I damn sure don't want to see brownies getting paid a higher wage. They seem more than fine with coming here to work for what they can, I say let them.

    Perhaps I wasn't directly talking about you, but the "Oh my god we are a sovereign nation but look at our border crowd" is just dumb. They don't want a fence with Canada. Just the brownies can't get in.

    Canadians take way more high paying jobs than Mexicans do. Just look at Hollywood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    I damn sure don't want to see brownies getting paid a higher wage.
    Wow. Just wow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsktrogdor View Post
    Wow. Just wow.
    Irony , I hope.

    Anyway where's the Google translate.

    Buggered if I know how this relates to welfare or asylum.

    Seks anholdt efter uro i Vollsmose Six arrested after the unrest in Vollsmose


    Tuesday 21 August 2012 at. 13:17 by Anne Schøning Christensen, ansc@tv2.dk, Jeppe happiness for TV 2 News (Upd on 21/8 2012, 15:57)

    Police are in the process of arrests in Vollsmose

    A large number of officers wearing bulletproof vests have been in action in Clearwater Beach at Vollsmose.

    Six people have been arrested by police for unrest in the emergency room at Odense University Hospital and in Vollsmose Monday night.

    "We have provisionally arrested six people, which we believe are related to what happened in Vollsmose and the hospital Monday night," says Jesper Feldt, duty officer at Funen Police Ritzau.

    Different connection
    Some of the men are believed to have been involved in the shooting early evening, while the other is believed to be related to unrest in the emergency department, said Deputy Commissioner Jack Liedecke.

    Police would not elaborate on who the characters are, or where and how they are arrested.

    A man was shot
    Arrests come after two immigrant groups in night clashed in Vollsmose in connection with a Ramadan celebration.

    A man was shot in the leg and stabbed in the second, and 60-70 men with batons tried later to find him in the emergency department in Odense.

    A cop was in this context affected by stroke, and another officer had to draw his gun.

    Disorder, threats and vandalism
    Two of the arrested men aged 18 and 19 years made tomorrow in the preliminary hearing in Court in London.

    They are charged with having participated in serious disarray, roughly vandalism and threats against police hospital staff Monday night at Odense University Hospital, said Funen Police.

    The other four are being questioned.
    Menelik, Guidrion is perfectly correct. For example, Francis Davidson Fraser ( "Mad" Frankie Fraser) never relied on welfare to my knowledge, and has never migrated, not that he had the chance, given the time he spent in jail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsktrogdor View Post
    Wow. Just wow.
    I enjoy my comfortable standard of living provided by low wage workers who give us cheap produce. Anyone that doesn't acknowledge this has no idea of the affects of a large wage increase for farm workers.

    Those in the highest levels of government do. Do you like rampant inflation? Which by the way would only set the farm workers back to where they were.

    Charge 10 dollars a pound for tomatoes and wages throughout the rest of the country will have to rise to compensate for the increase in cost of living. This will create inflation, thus wiping out the wage increase for the workers.

    This is what always happens when the lowest class gets a wage hike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Mexicans come here to work, you can hate on them for being Mexican or decry our sovereignty being breached, but there is a big difference between a million Pablos and Marias coming over the border to work in the kitchens and pick produce and the hundreds of thousands of "refugees" in Europe who barely muster any effort in finding gainful employment unless you consider the occasional riot as employment.

    When was the last time our illegals rioted?

    Oh yeah, never.
    No riots, but massive parades demanding immediate recognition, amnesty, and access to free social services and education. Illegal immigration is illegal and they should be deported.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Future Filmmaker View Post
    No riots, but massive parades demanding immediate recognition, amnesty, and access to free social services and education. Illegal immigration is illegal and they should be deported.
    I'm okay with this, as long as the farm hands are brought back in legally the next day at the previous day's wage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    I'm okay with this, as long as the farm hands are brought back in legally the next day at the previous day's wage.
    LOL.

    There are plenty of legal Mexicans for this though.
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