How do Carthage recruit elephants

**frog_lee** · July 14, 2006, 02:03 PM

I am playing Carthage right now. I have built Elite calvary barracks in some North African provinces which has elephants.
When I pull up the Elite calvary barracks description, it said it will enable me to build war elephants depending on my citizenship level. What does that mean? Why none of my province can recruit elephants now.

**Kapitan_brad** · July 14, 2006, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by frog_lee

enable me to build war elephants depending on my citizenship level.

Are you playing a mod that puts restrictions on your recruiting abilities ? I remember a version of Rome: total Realism did that. I never liked that and so i went and modded some of the files myself, hoping to make it somewhat more playable.

I recomend taking a look at the Readme for your mod, or if you are feeling up to it, doing the modding yourself

**frog_lee** · July 14, 2006, 02:21 PM

I downloaded the RTR Platium v1.6.

**sombralux** · July 14, 2006, 02:28 PM

Yep, I got the same problem, certain regions do have elephants as a resource, but I have been unable to build em.
EDIT: As carthage

**Kapitan_brad** · July 14, 2006, 02:28 PM

Originally Posted by frog_lee

I downloaded the RTR Platium v1.6.

Than i highly recomend reading your Readme.txt file or having a more experienced player deal with the issue themselves.

**sombralux** · July 14, 2006, 02:30 PM

Or maybe a reply of someone who knowd what he is talking about.

**Kapitan_brad** · July 14, 2006, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by sombralux

Or maybe a reply of someone who knowd what he is talking about.

As i stated before, I have played RTR before, so i am as competant as you are in this matter. Flaming me isnt contributing to the thread either so that, in essense, makes you a Hypocrite.

As far as giving the fellow a decent answer, you'll excuse me if i dont feel the need to when he has the materials with him, and i am preparing to go to work.

Now if he wants a decent answer, hes going to have to first go into Export_descr_unit.txt and change the required citizenship status to either nothing or a lower one so that he can start recruiting the units he wants, or just go into Export_descr_building.txt and change the properties and abilities of the goverment type buildings to ones that alot him a higher citizenship level faster.

**frog_lee** · July 14, 2006, 03:00 PM

Ok, I found the unit..which part should I change

type carthaginian elephant forest
dictionary rtr_carthaginian_elephant_forest
category cavalry
class heavy
voice_type Light_1
soldier numidian_small_elephant_archer, 6, 3, 7.4
mount elephant forest
mount_effect horse +4, camel +4, chariot +8,
attributes sea_faring,frighten_foot,frighten_mounted,can_run_amok
formation 7, 9, 13, 13, 1,square
stat_health 1, 10
stat_pri 0, 50, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 , 1
stat_pri_attr no
stat_sec 12, 25, no, 0, 0, melee, other, blunt, none, 0 , 0.5
stat_sec_attr ap,launching,area
stat_pri_armour 0, 5, 0, flesh
stat_sec_armour 12, 2, flesh
stat_heat -1
stat_ground 0, 1, -1, -2
stat_mental 15, normal, untrained
stat_charge_dist 30
stat_fire_delay 0
stat_food 60, 300
stat_cost 3, 2590, 2252, 169, 266, 1900
ownership carthage

**frog_lee** · July 14, 2006, 03:01 PM

I went on Export_descr_buildings.txt and didnt see anything about citizenship level

**sombralux** · July 14, 2006, 03:11 PM

Well only thing concerning recruitability in ..Units.txt is "Ownership". Try searching in buildings.txt for "carthaginian elephant"
Then change the needed buildings (like horse barracks, or citizinship buildings). But it should all be working from the start.

**Marcus Camillus** · July 14, 2006, 05:41 PM

First of all, as Carthage, you need a hippodrome building, which for the Carthaginians is called an "Elite Cavalry Stables".

RTR Platinum "export_descr_buildings.txt" file excerpt:
;carthage elephants
recruit "carthaginian elephant forest" 0 requires factions { carthage, } and resource elephants and building_present_min_level barracks_carthage militia_barracks and hidden_resource aor_punic

Second, the region needs at a minimum the "militia_barracks" barracks building, which for the Carthaginians is called a "Royal Barracks".

Third, the region needs to have the "elephants" resource and the hidden AOR resource of "aor_punic". Here is a list of all regions (provinces) that have both these resources.

Regions with both "elephants" resource and "aor_punic" hidden resource (Region - City):

Massylia - Hippo_Regius
Utica - Utica
Zeugitana - Hadrumentum
Africa - Carthage
Byzacium - Thapsus

The above regions are the areas critical to the Carthaginians if they wish to have any elephant units.

As an additional note, the "aor_punic" hidden resource is used to define the Carthaginian AOR Area and consists of the following regions/cities.

Cathaginian AOR:

Massylia - Hippo Regius (elephants available)
Utica - Utica (elephants available)
Zeugitana - Hadrumentum (elephants available)
Sicilia Poeni - Lilybaeum (no elephants)
Africa - Carthago (elephants available)
Malta - Melite (no elephants)
Byzacium - Thapsus (elephants available)
Tripolitania - Lepcis Magna (no elephants)

Hopefully this info will assist with understanding how to recruit elephants as the Carthaginian faction. This level of detail for recruiting is why the RTR developers tried so hard to get assistance with the creation of a detailed faction unit/building guide. Very few volunteered to assist with this, so no such guide has been developed yet. In the weeks ahead, after completing the final release for RTR Platinum, I am hoping to start compiling such a guide and releasing it to the RTR Fans. In the past, I created a small brief guide to the Roman faction for my own use, but can see where such a guide can help prevent some of the current confusion among those less computer or RTW file structure knowledgeable.