George Galloway : sex with sleeping women is not rape.

[Menelik_I]

George Galloway claimed a rape allegation levelled at the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange had no basis because having sex with a woman when she is asleep is not rape.

"Even taken at its worst, if the allegations made by these two women were true, 100% true, and even if a camera in the room captured them, they don't constitute rape," Galloway said. "At least not rape as anyone with any sense can possibly recognise it. And somebody has to say this.

"Woman A met Julian Assange, invited him back to her flat, gave him dinner, went to bed with him, had consensual sex with him, claims that she woke up to him having sex with her again. This is something which can happen, you know. I mean, not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion."

In a characteristically hectoring broadcast, Galloway also addressed allegations made by the second woman against Assange, over which he is wanted for questioning.

"She claimed that while she did have consensual sex with him, the condom ripped and yet he continued to do it," he said. "Now you wouldn't just need to be in the room with the two of them to know the truth of this allegation. I don't want to take the biology too far, but you would actually need to be somewhere located inside the woman to know if that allegation were true. And if it were true, is it rape?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012...n-assange-rape

Here is a short Wiki bio of Galloway :

George Galloway (born 16 August 1954) is a British politician, author, journalist, and broadcaster, and the Respect Member of Parliament (MP) for Bradford West. He was previously an MP for the Labour Party, for Glasgow Hillhead and then its successor constituency Glasgow Kelvin from 1987 until 2005. He was expelled from the Labour Party in October 2003 because of his strident public opposition to the Iraq War.[3] He subsequently became a founding member of the left-wing Respect Party, and was elected as the MP for Bethnal Green and Bow in 2005.[4] In 2010, Galloway unsuccessfully contested the seat of Poplar and Limehouse, and in 2011 he unsuccessfully contested the Glasgow list for the Scottish Parliament, before being elected as an MP in the 2012 Bradford West by-election.[5][6]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Galloway

These remarks are disgusting.

After the Labour disaster at the last election and the Lib-Dem non-halal alliance with the Conservative Party, it seemed to many that Galloway and his Respect Party was the new champion of the British left, until this new set back.

How much this statements will hurt Galloway politically ? Will it stop the split in the left vote at a time where UKIP seems to be set to split the conservative vote more than ever ? Does Galloway actually have a point ?

Discuss.

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Sometimes the rape face is more disgusting than the rape itself ...

[frozenprince]

I'm shocked, A politician said something stupid and exceptionally offensive. That never happens.

[Hazelnut]

Galloway is a self motivated tool who is willing to do anything for publicity. The fact that he has added another stupid remark on top of all his other stupid remarks is not too surprising.

But, saying that, I never realised he was as dumb as to come out with this statement.

[Gatsby]

Is this the guy that all the radical islamists around here love?

Anyway, some serious lulz are to be found in the fact that he is in the Respect party.

[Adar]

In Sweden we used to have two different kinds of rape "sexuellt utnyttjande" (essentially taking advantage of someone who couldn't defend themselves) and "våldtäkt" (sexual actions against someone protecting him/herself).

A severe case of "sexuellt unyttjande" was punished with a maxmimum of six years in jail which was the same maximum penalty as "våldtäkt" while a severe rape could lead to up to 10 years of prison.

I preferred the old distinction but under the current system it's very similar to the British term for rape and George Galloway is just pathetic. Heck, I know who the 2nd woman is and she really isn't a person I like or respect but Assange should go to the trial and hopefully be freed in the proper manner. His current actions are just disgraceful and paranoid.

[OCWife]

Assange should go to the trial and hopefully be freed in the proper manner.

I agree. Assange should be freed from the bondages of life by noose, guillotine, and/or firing squad.

[Blaze86420]

His current actions are just disgraceful and paranoid.

And justified, he can't take the risk of being sent of to the US. If these allegations are not a front to end wiki leaks and really are genuine then they can question him in Ecuador or guarantee that he won't be extradited.

[Adar]

And justified, he can't take the risk of being sent of to the US. If these allegations are not a front to end wiki leaks and really are genuine then they can question him in Ecuador or guarantee that he won't be extradited.

I've already explained that politicians are unable to leave such a guarantee in any nation that got a constitution separating politicians from judical power.

Furthermore Assange isn't even formally charged for anything in USA and in order for him to be sent to USA the following must apply.

1) USA must file a formal charge that imply more than 2 years in prison and does not involve military or political matters.

2) A Swedish court must agree that this charge is properly made and supported.

3) Great Britain must provide it's consent.

4) The Swedish government may then depending on the court decision decide to not extradict him to usa.

At the moment the issue of Assange being sent to USA is a non-existant issue and used as a red herring for Assange to avoid a trial regarding rape and sexual abuse. Being sent to Sweden would even provide him with even more protection from a extradiction than his current position in the hands of one of Americas closest allies. It's also worth remembering that Assange was considering himself safe in Sweden at the time of the sexual abuse...

[mrmouth]

And justified, he can't take the risk of being sent of to the US. If these allegations are not a front to end wiki leaks and really are genuine then they can question him in Ecuador or guarantee that he won't be extradited.

Why would the US want this guy? He is the figurehead of an organization that the US has taken legal steps to undermine. The US is far more worried about the source of leaks - not the group that acts as a clearing house.

And if they want a neutral site then The Hague would work. But it isn't about that. This is nothing more than a complex tantrum involving a man and a group of Latin American countries that make a habit of tantrums.

[Kraut]

George Galloway claimed a rape allegation levelled at the WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange had no basis because having sex with a woman when she is asleep is not rape. because Assange is a hero and can never be a rapist.

Fixed.

[removeduser_487563287433]

Surely this should be within the existing thread on the topic?

Also... Respect the "champion of the British left"? What the Hell does this mean? They have a single MP and 7 councillors (out of 21,871) in the whole of the UK.

[King Gambrinus]

Surely this should be within the existing thread on the topic?

Also... Respect the "champion of the British left"? What the Hell does this mean? They have a single MP and 7 councillors (out of 21,871) in the whole of the UK.

Can you name another leftist party with more seats than Respect?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Can you name another leftist party with more seats than Respect?

Labour?

[King Gambrinus]

Labour?

You're funny.

[removeduser_487563287433]

You're funny.

You're going to try and back up how you feel Labour are a right wing party, I guess?

[Menelik_I]

Also... Respect the "champion of the British left"? What the Hell does this mean? They have a single MP and 7 councillors (out of 21,871) in the whole of the UK.

George Galloway and Jean-Luc Mélenchon expose a huge political gap
The rise of France's 'third man' and Bradford's byelection both show a left populism can win mass support in this crisis

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...hon-expose-gap

George Galloway's victory shows Britain is sick of the war in Afghanistan
The Bradford West result is a powerful message of a collapse of trust between people and politicians. The lies must end now

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...fghanistan-war

George Galloway win puts spotlight back on Ed Miliband
Labour leader was enjoying David Cameron's nightmare week, but Bradford West result has shocked his party

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ht-ed-miliband

Just a few months ago it was all about how the Galloway victory will revive the left and give David Cameron a more competent adversary compared to Ed Milliband or how Ed Milliband was loosing hold of the left vote.

I damaged my eyes have having to source so many Guardian news pieces ...

[removeduser_487563287433]

Menelik that's a profoundly insane view. Galloway is an utterly fringe, borderline comic figure in the United Kingdom. His party has tiny, incredibly localised support bases, and their electoral successes, the very, very few ones that there have been, have been driven totally by Galloway's demagoguery exploiting the gullibility of fringe idiots and exploiting ethnic tensions in divided communities.

[Menelik_I]

Menelik that's a profoundly insane view.

From the Guardian.

I would be tempted to agree with your assessment of the mental state of that prestigious paper editorial board, but I fear that you are not a registered psychiatrist.

Galloway is an utterly fringe, borderline comic figure in the United Kingdom.

Yet I find many sympathetic articles about Galloway in the Guardian, and none of which bear upon him the kind of derision reserved for the comically lunatic.

George Galloway's byelection win is a lesson in the power of the minority vote
Respect crushed the opposition in Bradford West because Galloway got it right about minority voters and unpopular wars

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...-minority-vote

George Galloway denies Jemima Khan's claims of Muslim conversion ceremony
Khan's claim in New Statesman article that Galloway converted in north London 10 years ago is 'categorically untrue', he says

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...ma-khan-muslim

George Galloway's almost-perfect three minutes
Simon Hoggart on George Galloway, MP for Bradford West, taking his seat in the House of Commons

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2...-house-commong

[Bobz]

George Galloway is an even bigger idiot and publicity whore than Assange is, I don't think he's ever made a sensible statement. Stick him back in the Big Brother house.

[Thorn777]

Woman A met Julian Assange, invited him back to her flat, gave him dinner, went to bed with him, had consensual sex with him, claims that she woke up to him having sex with her again. This is something which can happen, you know. I mean, not everybody needs to be asked prior to each insertion."

^When this is what the outrage is about, then I guess most here did not have much sex with a real women all night next to you, and Assange penis must be small and his sexual tech real lame, or that pussy real huge. I dunno, but I dont see it.

Oh he humped her next mourning, hoping for some more. Yes, rape. 20 years in prison. lol bunch of quakers.