Riddles in the Quran

**SuperTechmarine** · August 20, 2012, 04:41 PM

http://www.qassimy.com/qo1/qu/rooi3jaz3.htm (This site is written in arabic, dont bother using the translator its broken.)

Amazingly this guys found out that the word الدنيا (dunya: this plane of existence) was mention 115 times in the Quran and the word الآخرة (the afterlife) was also mentioned 115 times.

the word الملائكة (Angel) is mentioned 68 times and the word الشياطين (demon or devil? is mentioned 68 times too)

and the most amazing of all:

The word يوم (day) is mention 365 times(the same amount of days in a year!) and the word شهر (month) is mentioned 12 times (the same amount of months in year!)

What do you think of this?

Coincidence?
EDIT: From an artistical pont of view. Was this ever done before?

**In3x** · August 20, 2012, 04:51 PM

Oh my god. That is truly incredible. I hereby renounce atheism and convert to Islam. Huzzah!

**~~removeduser_4536284751384~~** · August 20, 2012, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine

The word يوم (day) is mention 365 times(the same amount of days in a year!) and the word شهر (month) is mentioned 12 times (the same amount of months in year!)

Only in the Roman Catholic Gregorian Calendar. The Islamic calendar is 354 days long

**SuperTechmarine** · August 21, 2012, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by irelandeb

Only in the Roman Catholic Gregorian Calendar. The Islamic calendar is 354 days long

Im pretty sure God would use a Solar Calendar not the Islamic one.

**In3x** · August 21, 2012, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine

Im pretty sure God would use a Solar Calendar not the Islamic one.

Hmm, why didn't the God of Islam make this known to his followers?

Could I translate a book into another language and then translate is back so that it said the word day 365 times?

**Himster** · November 29, 2012, 06:00 AM

Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine

Im pretty sure God would use a Solar Calendar not the Islamic one.

Why a solar calender?
Why not a galactic calender? Or a universal calender? Or an inter-universe-calender?

**I WUB PUGS** · November 29, 2012, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by irelandeb

Only in the Roman Catholic Gregorian Calendar. The Islamic calendar is 354 days long

Yeah, that got me right away.

Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine

Im pretty sure God would use a Solar Calendar not the Islamic one.

Way to project your sensibilities on GOD.

**Himster** · August 20, 2012, 05:19 PM

Google apophenia, then you will understand why your opinion will not be taken seriously by anyone outside your religion.

**sumskilz** · August 20, 2012, 06:29 PM

If you look as Psalm 46 of the King James version of the Bible, and count 46 words from the beginning you will find the word "shake", then count 46 words from the end and you will come upon the word "spear". Shakespeare was 46 in the year that portion was translated.

Coincidence? Or divine intervention?

**imb39** · August 20, 2012, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by sumskilz

If you look as Psalm 46 of the King James version of the Bible, and count 46 words from the beginning you will find the word "shake", then count 46 words from the end and you will come upon the word "spear". Shakespeare was 46 in the year that portion was translated.

Coincidence? Or divine intervention?

No such thing as 'coincidence' it's all miracles!

**In3x** · August 20, 2012, 06:55 PM

You should lead with this at your next job interview.

**Denny Crane!** · August 20, 2012, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by In3x

You should lead with this at your next job interview.

Screw that, I see a career all initself right there. Multi million pound industry waiting to be created.

**Savoyard** · August 20, 2012, 08:29 PM

The fact that the Koran has more on the Virgin Mary than the Bible to be more interesting.

**imb39** · August 20, 2012, 08:39 PM

I'm not sure I'd use the word 'interesting.'

The Gospels were written within 50 years of Jesus' death (as I understand it) and seem to have lots of contradictions. Though I suppose they each look at Jesus' life through a different prism. I can only hope that the Koran (written 700 years later) is more coherent.

**Kjertesvein** · November 28, 2012, 11:10 PM

The reason I'm fishing up this thread is because a class mate of mine, a convert, tried to convert me (

) to Islam by showing scientific signs as, among other things, proof of Allah. However, I gently replied 'based upon the evidence provided, I'm not impressed to walk down that road'. It's time for me to take of the silk gloves...

Buccaillism - the Qur'an as a scientific text.

Maurice Buccaille (b.1922) was chief of the surgical clinic at the French Academy of Medicine on science and the Qur'an. He argued that the Qur'an accuratly describes scientific phenomena long before modern scientists had discovered, or rather rediscovered, them.In his The Bible, The Qur'an and Science (1978) he examines the Bible and the Qur'an for scientific reliability, looking for examples at their creation narratives, and concludes that the Bible contains statements that are 'scientifically unacceptable' while the Qur'an is 'in perfect agreement with modern data.' In his view, the presence of data in the Qur'an of which scientists had been ignorant until modern times confirmed for him the Qur'an's status as a Revelation. In contrast, the Bible's scientific errors proved that it's revelatory claims are false. His ideas are highly controversial and are often referred to as 'Buccallism'.
Von Denffer comments [...] the problem, he suggests, with this as a criterion for the genuineness of the non-human origin of the Qur'an is that in the future science, which is 'after all the human perspective on the true nature of things' might ' describe it's findings entirely differently from the way it presents its "truths" today' (1983: p. 157). The Qur'an is guidance from Allah under any circumstances irrespective of weather science, which changes continuously, seems to be in support of it or not' (obid).

Source: Click here.

Apopfenia, or more accurately called Buccaillism in this regard, is not only criticized in the source already given, internally by several Muslims, but also from an external, former muslim and analytic point of view of this youtuber, quite brilliantly (click here)

I too can make ad hoc hypothesis' and take scientific theories from pre-Socratic Athens into a book. Let's see what my class mates responds with.

Any ex-muslims or muslims who follow this science-Qur'an-is-compatible doctrine?

~Wille

**Irishman** · November 29, 2012, 10:02 PM

Interestingly many authors do this on purpose. Vladimir Nabokov was famous for things like this.

**hameem123** · December 01, 2012, 11:06 PM

just to make it all clear, i see most of you doesn't understand that in Islam = Religion and Science coexist with each other,you can't be a Muslim if you don't know (believe in) Science so the saying and belief that Islam rejects Science or what is now called "Modernism" is a very wrong one! the Modernism we condemns is how being naked in the crowd is a modernism or how drinking alcohol at young age is viewed as "cool or mature" or how same sex marriage is allowed is modernism. (in the Bible itself it has several contents where it commands true Christians to kill those who have committed sodomy or homosexuality i.e. just like in Islam) the Modernism we condemn is those things that will bring no good and those things are not Scientific at all. to be honest we Muslims are more Christian than those Christians,you ask why? we follow and respect Jesus (PBUH) much more like not drinking alcohol,not using credits or interest,not eating pork,believing in the God he is talking about (Allah)........could someone answer this,if Jesus (PBUH) is really a God then tell me based on your story telling that when Jesus (PBUH) was crucified (we don't believe he was) he uttered words to God to forgive the humanity so in a logical way that means he is talking to himself to forgive his own creatures? or the fact he let his creatures punish him and disgrace him that much? that is very frustrating and illogical!

**total relism** · December 02, 2012, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by SuperTechmarine

http://www.qassimy.com/qo1/qu/rooi3jaz3.htm (This site is written in arabic, dont bother using the translator its broken.)

Amazingly this guys found out that the word الدنيا (dunya: this plane of existence) was mention 115 times in the Quran and the word الآخرة (the afterlife) was also mentioned 115 times.

the word الملائكة (Angel) is mentioned 68 times and the word الشياطين (demon or devil? is mentioned 68 times too)

and the most amazing of all:

The word يوم (day) is mention 365 times(the same amount of days in a year!) and the word شهر (month) is mentioned 12 times (the same amount of months in year!)

What do you think of this?

Coincidence?
EDIT: From an artistical pont of view. Was this ever done before?

Islamic calender
354 or 355 days. Being a purely lunar calendar, it is not synchronized with the seasons. With an annual drift of 10 or 11 days, the seasonal relation repeats about every 33 Islamic years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_calendar

This is n internet argument on the frequency of the word YaWM (Day) in the Quran. In the end of this lengthy argument, Daniel Lomax admitted that the frequency of the word YaWM (day) in singular form is indeed 365, its plural form is 30, and the total of all its derivatives is 475 (19x25). This is one of the rare arguments that both parties finally reach to the same conclusion.
http://www.yuksel.org/e/religion/365days.htm