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    Ok so I finally finished ADWD and I have to say it ended pretty awfully. I thought Dany would cross by now and she's just going to be slowed by the Dothraki.

    Anyway because I'm super pissed Jon Snow is dead (who knows though). So Dondarrion gave his life to Cat through the red kiss, and he really was R'hollors champion because he had the flaming blade right (Something Aemon(sp?) mentioned to Sam or Jon when Stannis first came to the wall he said that his sword had no heat) So say that Azor Ahai's soul was in Dondarrion to Cat I think Cat will have to give it to Jon and he will be azor ahai. And obviously it will be a big deal because of the whole Neds bastard thing.

    Post some theories of what's gunna happen.

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    Oh and in the very last chapter I think those were the children of the forest but I have no clue how Varys would be chillin with them

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    Oh it just came to me that the new mystery knightsguard dude is Coldhands.

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    *Kingsguard sorry for so many posts haha

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    Jon Snow isn't dead 99.99%. It was foolish cliffhanger that GRRM should have avoided. I prefer him just being heavily wounded or even staying "dead". No resurrections and enough with the fake deaths which have so undermined the feeling that "nobody is safe".
    Jon probably isn't Ned's bastard, although i'd like if he would be.
    On Dany, agreed, the thing i hope now is that she dies.
    That children Varys had with himself are his spies, the "little birds."
    Ser Robert is Gregor Clegane.
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    But the children didn't have normal eyes I think (they were black) and it ends saying something about daggers they could possibly be obsidian (dragonglass) daggers. Not to mention the showing up of that knight at the time and people even say he doesn't eat.

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    I'll check it. but it would be really unbelievable to have children of forest working woth Varys. What could possibly their motives be? I think 'dark eyes' meant to resemble their emotionless.
    As for Robert, undead Gregor wouldn't have to eat too, + how would coldhands get there in so short time and what motives he would have, not to mention Ser Robert's hugeness.
    It could be someone else, but all indicators point on Gregor.
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    Robert the Strong is clearly Gregore Clegane (it is however G.R.R.M so it may actualy turn out to be Robb Stark just to annoy us).
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    Perhaps it's GRRM himself

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    I dunno I've just accepted the fact that Gregore is dead, everyone says that poison would kill anyone. Plus I don't recall any proof that he could still be alive or a wight.

    The children/coldhands thing is just solely on the fact that everyone doesn't think the new knight eats and the last few words are "and those daggers..." or something like that so I immediately thought of dragonglass and TCOTF . Not to mention Varys has always claimed he serves the realm and no one knows what he's been doing, he could truly mean that is somehow he found out about the Others.

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    Well, Ser Robert Strong is likely Gregor Clegane- Altough perhaps without a head, or one borrowed. Quyburn was stripped off his chain for tinkering with the dead.

    Coldhands could never have gone south so fast, and why should he, and the little birds were with varys from the start.. Oh, and the godswood was likely the only place were they weren`t watching because there was no place to hide. The children of the forest not seeing what happened in a godswood? Unlikely. Also ilyrio explains to tyrion the origin of varys little birds.

    That fire blade is just a spell, dondarrion wasn`t azor ahai.

    And, expected as it might be, the dothraki might be subdued or persuaded by her to attack the slavers. I think if she tells em: "Well guys, there are many rich slavers with weak soldiers at my gates.. Attack them, and you will be the richest khalasar ever." they will happily oblige. Especially after drogon roasts a few dothraki.




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    Hmm the whole Quyburn thing makes sense. I hope it's The Hound and not his brother The Hound was a dangerously underrated character, even though unlikely.

    The spell thing is true I think but I still like to think the whole Cat/Jon thing will play out.

    And I just want Dany to cross already Meereen is getting boring as hell.

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    Spoiler for the hound:

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    The hound is likely alive. When Brienne visits quiet isle, which is close to where arya lef the hound, she sees a huge novice, and a cloak hides his face. He digs the graves and limps. (Sandor was wounded on his leg/thigh) Later a hound walks up to him, and he pets him! Even more hints: His horse is present, and the monks tell brienne that they found him. The elder brother also speaks somewhat cryptic and just says that the hound is dead and that he buried him. The hound is likely alive, but perhaps he has found his peace. Which is imho more worth than seeing more action, altough some think that cersei will demand a trial by battle and will name Gregor as her champion- And then the faith names sandor as theirs, or something like that. A fight between two dead men.
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    Lordinquisitor you sir are a Genius. I thought the Hound might still be alive but that seems like a very GRRM thing to do. The Irony and epicness of that battle would be something to see.

    Also his "Little Birdies", going by the fact he was magically neutered and spent time with a mage and their discription, could be something magical, they're probably normal kids but hey, there's an Uncat, Ungregor and the Others North of the wall maybe Vary's jumped on the undead bandwagon or done some weird stuff. I should probably re-read these books as this is probably going to be torn apart by people with better memories haha!

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    I thought Varys hated magic- he might have been saying that as a ploy.
    Surely an undead Sir Gregor would be unbeatable- the only way to win would be to reveal that he is a zombie, and for the Faith to disallow it.

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    The three eyed crow is Brynden Rivers, one of Aegon IV's great bastards. It is known.
    they make lots of references too it, like he says "I have a thousand eyes, and one", and that is what the lords used to say about him when he was hand of the king, because he was like a varys, except more badass. plus he says his name is Brynden, and he says he was part of the Night's watch (I think) which Brynden Rivers was.

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    He also has that birthmark in his face.

    Yes, varys uses little kids as spy. Brynden Rivers used the magic of the old gods and ravens- Now that is badass.




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    yeah. I wonder if Bran will find the Valyrian steel sword Dark Sister up there... it was Brynden's after all

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    oh it would be just so epic if Sandor was alive and would fight Robert Strong and deafeted him ooo just so much epicness

    I think the black flame is using Victarion Greyjoy and he will die soon during or after the battle in meereen

    Also i think that Dany would order Drogon to kill the khall and the rest of the dorthraki join her , or she will tell them the dragons name is Drogon and the dorthraki would think is drogon reborn and follow them cuz they aren't a really advanced people

    Also i think Jorah will die during the battle defending Dany if she arives in thime , or he will just die during the Battle and Dany will get sad and maybe , maybe she will become more mature

    And maybe Loras still lives after the battle and becomes hideous and vengeful and be more of a blund and agressive person

    definitly i don't think the children that were present at Deavens death time weren't children of the forest, they were his orfans that he calls litle birds

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