PKK abducts Turkish MP! ! !

[alhoon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19234765

A Turkish opposition member of parliament has been kidnapped by suspected members of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).
The politician, Huseyin Aygun - who is himself a Kurd - was abducted near the eastern city of Tunceli.

WTF...
PKK stepped it up at a really bad time. Unfortunatelly the chances for a Syrian-Turkish war seem inevitable.

It's an act of terror that I can't understand the reasons why. That MP was kurdish. How the heck will this help them get autonomy?

EDIT:
So I would like to discuss, what are the options on the table for Turkey now? Army or police? Will they cross to Syria in order to search for the MP?
Could it be a move by the PKK to provoke Turkey to attack Syria?

What happens now?

[NotYetRegistered]

A Turkish opposition member of parliament has been kidnapped by suspected members of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).
The politician, Huseyin Aygun - who is himself a Kurd - was abducted near the eastern city of Tunceli.

Oh wow. Why did they capture a Kurd MP?

[s.rwitt]

Uh oh.

[PointOfViewGun]

Hüseyin Aygün was one of the most vocal CHP MPs about civil rights. I guess when people call PKK members "freedom fighters" they mean freedom not as in freedom of though but freedom from thought.

[hellheaven1987]

Kidnap by PKK or defect to PKK?

[Tureuki]

Probably a contradiction on views, since that mp was also Kurdish and working for Kurdish rights.

Also, I didn't wanted to open another thread, 13 construction workers kidnapped and several construction machinery burned.

[alhoon]

EDIT: I edited the OP because it was written while I was distracted so it wasn't good.

[alhoon]

Also, I didn't wanted to open another thread, 13 construction workers kidnapped and several construction machinery burned.

Link?
Did PKK abducted them? If they don't kill them and just destroy property, I can't say it would have as much impact as abducting an MP.

EDIT: I edited the OP because it was written while I was distracted so it wasn't good.

Hüseyin Aygün was one of the most vocal CHP MPs about civil rights. I guess when people call PKK members "freedom fighters" they mean freedom not as in freedom of though but freedom from thought.

Well, could you elaborate on that MP's political views etc? Why he became a target?

[PointOfViewGun]

Tunceli is pretty far away from the Syrian border...

Well, could you elaborate on that MP's political views etc? Why he became a target?

Google him. There is no reason whatsoever for him to be kidnapped. He's been critical of Turkey's history with the Kurdic problem focusing on Dersim. A Kurdic member of CHP, which some of you guys would claim to be the party that would want to kill all the Kurds in Turkey, who published 3 books named "Eve Tarixê Ho Têri Amaene", "Dersim 1938 ve Zorunlu İskân" and "0.0.1938 Resmiyet ve Hakikat", one of which is in Zazaki, a language some of you guys would claim to be banned in Turkey.

[alhoon]

Google him. There is no reason whatsoever for him to be kidnapped. He's been critical of Turkey's history with the Kurdic problem focusing on Dersim. A Kurdic member of CHP, which some of you guys would claim to be the party that would want to kill all the Kurds in Turkey, who published 3 books named "Eve Tarixê Ho Têri Amaene", "Dersim 1938 ve Zorunlu İskân" and "0.0.1938 Resmiyet ve Hakikat", one of which is in Zazaki, a language some of you guys would claim to be banned in Turkey.

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THe above paragraph doesn't make much sense for me since I don't know what you're talking about.
Also which are the "some of us guys"?
What are the names of the books you mentioned in English? Why would a Kurd want all Kurds killed in Turkey? What is the Zazaki language? Why you have banned languages in Turkey? What happened in or what is Dersim?

[PointOfViewGun]

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THe above paragraph doesn't make much sense for me since I don't know what you're talking about.
Also which are the "some of us guys"?
What are the names of the books you mentioned in English? Why would a Kurd want all Kurds killed in Turkey? What is the Zazaki language? Why you have banned languages in Turkey? What happened in or what is Dersim?

Your questions doesn't really make sense. Try to read my post properly.

[athanaric]

What are the names of the books you mentioned in English?

I don't know but the Zazaki one has to do something with history (because tarixe means "history of"). The two Turkish ones are about the uprising or its build-up.

Why would a Kurd want all Kurds killed in Turkey?

Because he's insane. Or because he doesn't, and you misunderstood.

What is the Zazaki language?

It's a native, Iranian language of the region. Closely related to Kurdish.

Why you have banned languages in Turkey?

They used to be banned earlier so as to brainwash the population into considering themselves East Asian nomads.

What happened in or what is Dersim?

Dersim was the name of the town before an uprising happened there, which was crushed by Turkish troops with the usual excessive brutality. Hence the Turkish name "Tunceli", which IIRC means "land of bronze" or something like this.

[alhoon]

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THe above paragraph doesn't make much sense for me since I don't know what you're talking about.
Also which are the "some of us guys"?
What are the names of the books you mentioned in English? Why would a Kurd want all Kurds killed in Turkey? What is the Zazaki language? Why you have banned languages in Turkey? What happened in or what is Dersim?

Your questions doesn't really make sense. Try to read my post properly.

OK, let me read it "more properly"

There is no reason whatsoever for him to be kidnapped. He's been critical of Turkey's history with the Kurdic problem focusing on Dersim.

I asked what happened there and I was told that there was a town where the Turkish army responded with brutality to hit the insurgents.

A Kurdic member of CHP, which some of you guys would claim to be the party that would want to kill all the Kurds in Turkey

I asked why would a Kurd belong to such an anti-Kurdish party. And I asked who you mean with the "some of you guys"
Haven't got a satisfactory response yet.

who published 3 books named "Eve Tarixê Ho Têri Amaene", "Dersim 1938 ve Zorunlu İskân" and "0.0.1938 Resmiyet ve Hakikat

I asked for the names of those books in English, since I don't understand the names.

one of which is in Zazaki, a language some of you guys would claim to be banned in Turkey.

I asked what is Zazaki language and why it was banned.
I was told by Athanaric it's an Iranian dialect close to Kurdish that was banned for nationalistic reasons.



So, perhaps now my questions make sense to you? Can you or another one answer them please?

[Odenat]

[QUOTE=alhoon;11869557]

I asked why would a Kurd belong to such an anti-Kurdish party. And I asked who you mean with the "some of you guys"
Haven't got a satisfactory response yet.
[QUOTE]

uh, CHP got the highest votes at the Tunceli area. So, now you must be asking how an anti-Kurdish party is getting highes vote at a Kurdish area ?

The answer is simple. What you call an anti-kurdish party is not anti-kurdish at all.

[PointOfViewGun]

OK, let me read it "more properly"

Clearly, you're not. Here is why:

I asked what happened there and I was told that there was a town where the Turkish army responded with brutality to hit the insurgents.

You didn't ask what happened in Dersim and then told that Turkish army responded with brutality to hit the insurgents. You asked about his views. I mentioned Dersim as the topic he focuses on. This pretty easy to google.

I asked why would a Kurd belong to such an anti-Kurdish party. And I asked who you mean with the "some of you guys"
Haven't got a satisfactory response yet.

You have to ask questions that make sense to get a satisfactory response. Apparently, you are one of those people who would view CHP as anti-Kurdic when in fact it's not.

I asked for the names of those books in English, since I don't understand the names.

You don't have to understand their names.

I asked what is Zazaki language and why it was banned.
I was told by Athanaric it's an Iranian dialect close to Kurdish that was banned for nationalistic reasons.

Zazaki is a minority language in Turkey that is tied to Kurds. Another easy to google question. I never told you that it was banned and I doubt you'd be able to find any source that shows how and when it was banned. That doesn't stop anyone from talking as if it was banned though...

So, perhaps now my questions make sense to you? Can you or another one answer them please?

They don't. They're easy to google questions that doesn't necessarily add anything to this thread. You've clearly missed the point of my post even though it was rather obvious. I even told you to google him...

[eisenkopf]

Tunceli is pretty far away from the Syrian border...



Google him. There is no reason whatsoever for him to be kidnapped. He's been critical of Turkey's history with the Kurdic problem focusing on Dersim. A Kurdic member of CHP, which some of you guys would claim to be the party that would want to kill all the Kurds in Turkey, who published 3 books named "Eve Tarixê Ho Têri Amaene", "Dersim 1938 ve Zorunlu İskân" and "0.0.1938 Resmiyet ve Hakikat", one of which is in Zazaki, a language some of you guys would claim to be banned in Turkey.

Huh?

None of that makes sense to me.

Who are the "some of you guys"?

What are the English names of those books, and what are they about?

Why would a Kurd want to be part of a party that wants to kill all Kurds in Turkey?

What is the Zazaki language? Or do you mean Zaziki?

Why are there banned languages in Turkey?

What happened in or what is Dersim?

So many questions...

[removeduser_487563287433]

Hm. Story makes me suspicious.

[Thorn777]

Hm. Story makes me suspicious.

Of what?

[removeduser_487563287433]

Veracity.

[nein]

if those kurds want a holocaust... they are going the right way