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    Default Michelle Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrating the U.S

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...im-brotherhood

    Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann and a few of her colleagues aren't letting go of her insistence that the Muslim Brotherhood could be infiltrating the U.S. government, even after Arizona Sen. John McCain's impassioned floor speech where he dismissed Bachmann's suspicions as "specious and degrading."

    "When anyone, not least a member of Congress, launches specious and degrading attacks against fellow Americans on the basis of nothing more than fear of who they are and ignorance of what they stand for, it defames the spirit of our nation," McCain said.

    The flap began after Bachmann and Republican colleagues Arizona Rep. Trent Franks, Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert, Florida Rep. Tom Rooney and Georgia Rep. Lynn Westmoreland sent letters to several inspector generals in the State Department, Department of Homeland Security, the Department of Defense, the Department of Justice and the Office of National Intelligence as to whether the Muslim Brotherhood could be infiltrating the U.S. government. The letters quickly attracted attention with one specifically mentioning the State Department's Deputy Chief of Staff, Huma Abedin, a long-time Hillary Clinton aide, by name.

    Bachmann's letter says "Huma Abedin has three family members — her late father, her mother and her brother-conected to Muslim Brotherhood operatives or organizations.

    The letter continues to insinuate that those connections have led the State Department to act favorably toward the "Muslim Brotherhood and its interests." Bachmann insists that she's onto something and dug in her heels late Wednesday stating "I encourage everyone, including media outlets, to read [the letters] in their entirety. The intention of the letters was to outline the serious national security concerns I had and ask for answers to questions regarding the Muslim Brotherhood and other radical group's access to top Obama administration officials." [See a collection of political cartoons on the Republican Party.]

    On Thursday, Congressman Rooney also stood his ground.

    "As a member of the House Armed Services and Intelligence Committees, my top priority is ensuring the security of our nation. The tragic events at Fort Hood in 2009 proved that our enemies will go to great lengths, including infiltrating and recruiting members of our military, to commit acts of terror against American citizens," Rooney said in an E-mailed statement. "I regret that Mrs. Abedin has become the media focus of this story, because the intention of the letters was to bring greater attention to a legitimate national security risk."

    Corey Saylor, a spokesman for the Council on American-Islamic Relations, says this is as close to a McCarthy-era witch hunt as he's seen. "It causes deep concern to anyone that a member of Congress would advance this kind of conspiracy theory especially one who is on as sensitive a committee as the intelligence committee," Saylor says. "If this were a legitimate concern she would have gone to the authorities, not sent out a press release."
    This story is a little old, but fresh allegations have come out from Michelle. She is now basically pointing the her finger at Muslims and claiming they have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. One of those people is Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, the only Muslim Congressman.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...nts/56370300/1

    She has also accused an aid to Hillary Clinton of also having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama has come to defend her.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...c106_blog.html

    What she is doing reminds me of the Red Scare in the 1950s. Just this time instead of being accused as being a Communist with no evidence now you can be accused of having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood with no evidence. This is nothing but a witch hunt. Bachmann has become nothing but a joke. I seriously hope the people in her district realize just how much of a joke she is and votes her out.

    New Gingrich has also come out to defend her allegations. Though I'm not surprised. He isn't much better than Bachmann either really.

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    Default Re: Michelle Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrating the U.S

    the difference is the red scare was taken seriously this isn't

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    Default Re: Michelle Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrating the U.S

    I'd agree with you if Bachmann didn't carry significant weight in the Tea Party element of the Republican party. No one could ever accuse the American Public of being informed or grounded.

    Thankfully the Bachmannites have more or less reached their maximum number.

    But who am I to criticize? She's an elected official for Christ's sake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    I'd agree with you if Bachmann didn't carry significant weight in the Tea Party element of the Republican party. No one could ever accuse the American Public of being informed or grounded.

    Thankfully the Bachmannites have more or less reached their maximum number.

    But who am I to criticize? She's an elected official for Christ's sake!
    Your pathetically misinformed if you think bachmann is influential in the tea party anymore. Shes essentially a backbencher now a days, and with her increasingly looney foreign policy perspectives she will certainly continue her descent into nothingness.
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    Default Re: Michelle Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrating the U.S

    I guess you could prove that comment instead of just calling me uninformed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    I guess you could prove that comment instead of just calling me uninformed.
    Just saying, you were the first to claim she does carry significant weight in the Tea Party. You should actually be the only proving your comment.

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    Default Re: Michelle Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrating the U.S

    Or you could inform yourself. I guess initiative is a dieing virtue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggle View Post
    Or you could inform yourself. I guess initiative is a dieing virtue.
    I don't care about defending the Tea Party, you apparently do. Man up chief.

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    She was the Tea Party candidate for President. That's close enough for me. Besides does the Tea Party even qualify as an entity now or has the assimilation into normal Republican been completed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    She was the Tea Party candidate for President. That's close enough for me.
    How the does a grass roots movement "have" a candidate? You dont even have the foggiest understanding of american politics.
    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    Besides does the Tea Party even qualify as an entity now or has the assimilation into normal Republican been completed?
    Yet again, pathetically misinformed: Everyone who pays attention to politics knows the tea party has been running candidates against republicans for the last two years and kicking them out of office or simply replacing moderates who are retiring, ex: Cruz in texas.

    edit: in fact its gotten to the point where many think demint will attempt to take the leadership in the senate sooner rather than later.

    And yes, Bachmann was popular with the tea party --- six or more months ago -- but shes been making remarks like this one since she gave up her campaign. Hence, her popularity is gone. Boehner is trying to distance himself from her, she'll probably lose her seat on the intelligence committee too. Shes completely isolated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    She was the Tea Party candidate for President. That's close enough for me. Besides does the Tea Party even qualify as an entity now or has the assimilation into normal Republican been completed?
    Thats was a long time ago though. Its might be different now.

    And as for the Tea Party, i'm honestly not sure. I haven't heard too much about them anymore. Maybe they are mostly gone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    Maybe they are mostly gone?
    Ted Cruz scores Tea Party victory in Texas primary

    Ted Cruz routs establishment candidate David Dewhurst in a Republican upset

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...rty-texas-live
    They aren't gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    They aren't gone.

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    I just don't hear much about them anymore really. You have to admit though, the movement has died down compared to what it was two years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    I just don't hear much about them anymore really. You have to admit though, the movement has died down compared to what it was two years ago.
    Because 2 years ago it was the midterm elections the coverage about them was bigger and now there aren't that many special elections so if course the coverage is smaller. You can't measure the strength of a political movement by the amount of noise the media does about them.

    How have the movements died down if they just got a major primary victory for the Texas Senate seat ?
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    Sweet Jesus this guy is quick to offend.

    A: The Tea Party was almost completely funded by the Koch Brothers. I guess I could source that or you could google "Tea Party Koch Brothers" and spend the next 4 years reading articles from every news outlet in the US.

    B: They carry R's next to their names correct? Claiming to be Republican correct? They send delegates to the RNC correct? Just wondering if they've merged yet or they still consider themselves different even though they have the same pay master.

    Wait, here I've done the google search for you:
    https://www.google.com/#hl=en&sugexp...w=1109&bih=705

    I'm not going to debate with squiggles I can already tell he makes posts that routinely start off with insults. I'm fine with my simple google search showing that the Tea Party is full of BS and is in fact not grass roots.


    As for Bachmann, really the only thing that anyone will ever care about is the hotdog picture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by I WUB PUGS View Post
    A: The Tea Party was almost completely funded by the Koch Brothers.
    LOL.
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    Default Re: Michelle Bachmann: Muslim Brotherhood Infiltrating the U.S

    She makes it sound like they're some sort illuminati type secret order with unlimited resources, I mean come on they're cool but not that cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
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    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/...im-brotherhood



    This story is a little old, but fresh allegations have come out from Michelle. She is now basically pointing the her finger at Muslims and claiming they have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. One of those people is Minnesota Rep. Keith Ellison, the only Muslim Congressman.

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politic...nts/56370300/1

    She has also accused an aid to Hillary Clinton of also having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood. Obama has come to defend her.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...c106_blog.html

    What she is doing reminds me of the Red Scare in the 1950s. Just this time instead of being accused as being a Communist with no evidence now you can be accused of having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood with no evidence. This is nothing but a witch hunt. Bachmann has become nothing but a joke. I seriously hope the people in her district realize just how much of a joke she is and votes her out.


    New Gingrich has also come out to defend her allegations. Though I'm not surprised. He isn't much better than Bachmann either really.
    So I was hoping maybe the speaker could explain to us: Hypothetically, if Huma Abedin did have a bias in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, and if she were actually acting on that bias to try to tilt American policy in favor of the Muslim Brotherhood, what exactly would the State Department be doing differently?

    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rew-c-mccarthy
    I don't know what the Republicans are going in conspiracy tangents, with infiltration or not, the policies of Obama already favors the Muslim Brotherhood regional take over of the Middle East.
    « Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menelik_I View Post
    I don't know what the Republicans are going in conspiracy tangents, with infiltration or not, the policies of Obama favors the Muslim Brotherhood regional take over of the Middle East.
    Can you please point out those policies and how they favor the MB taking over the Middle East? And please don't say supporting the rebels in Syria.


    If anything it just seems like the US is being the opportunistic and supporting movements that could potentially overthrow governments and put in governments favorable to the US.

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    Old news, but just your routine witch hunt against the new group to be feared in the US. Just like Communists were, now Muslims are. Just imagine though Michelle Bachmann becoming president of United States
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