Which faction beside Rome

[Rhaegar1]

I'm interested in which factions beside Rome people are most anxious to play with. Could also be useful for CA to know when deciding on which factions to make playable. I think that I didn't miss any obvious candidates for playable options but if I did just discuss it.

ps. And be nice, it's my birthday ;-)

[Jungle Rhino]

Attalid Pergamon (Asia Minor is the place for all the action!) and/or a Gallic tribe

[Rorarii]

I pray to Baal .. and astarte .. and sacrific naught kids to the fire god .. i am .. RELIGIOUS MAN !!!

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[BAGRAT 7]

Caucasian Iberia

[a tw player]

A Greek faction for me (Rome will definitely be my first playthrough though...)

[Count von Orlok]

Macedonia was a greek kingdom ,why it's separate ?
Happy B-day Rhaegar1

[Holger Danske]

Macedonia was a greek kingdom ,why it's separate ?
Happy B-day Rhaegar1

Trolling?

or just bloody oblivious?

[AlexCouceiro]

Baktria would undoubtedly be my number one faction. I start trembling all over just to think CA may not make them playable. That would kill my heart.

* And I forgot to say I would like it very much if CA stretched the map up to the territory of the Mauryan Empire, as shown on the map bellow. It would be lovely.

[Anna_Gein]

I chosen Pontus but I expect each of them to have a decent representation at least.
Especially the various "barbarian" faction.

Greek faction represent the different Greek league or city state.
Beside it the Macedon and the Greek were different people even if they could be see as nearly identical.

ps : happy birthday Rhaegar1

[Count von Orlok]

They had the same religion the same language and macedons took part in Olympic games (were only greeks had this right) .Futhermore the word macedon is greek word (means tall ). It was another greek city-state like Sparta ,Athens etc which unified all the greek city-states (except Sparta) in one empire .

[DarthRuanek]

Macedon was separate, though. Just like most of the time the various city-states were separate from each other. That doesn't work as well for TW, though, because it would create a lot of small, weak states close together.

[Restlessspirit4]

Well if it start's in the same time period as RTW, Chartage,Diadochi states(Macedonia,Seleucid&Ptolemaic Empire) and Gaulic tribes are a must.Pergamon as a faction is a possible option but I would really like to see factions that really had great impact on history of that time frame(Pontus,Numidia,Epirus,Armenia etc).They could certainly add emergence of Bactria.

[Flamen Martialis]

Macedonia was a greek kingdom ,why it's separate ?
Happy B-day Rhaegar1

They had the same religion the same language and macedons took part in Olympic games (were only greeks had this right) .Futhermore the word macedon is greek word (means tall ). It was another greek city-state like Sparta ,Athens etc which unified all the greek city-states (except Sparta) in one empire .

MACEDON WAS NOT A GREEK CITY STATE!!!!!

Macedon was a completely separate kingdom (a kingdom had kings! - Greek city states did not) from Greece right up until it became a Roman province. Greeks considered Macedonians a separate culture and looked down on them - despised them as barbarians - Demosthenes is one of many Greek writers who thought them far worse than most barbarians, and the worst slaves a Greek could buy. Alexander III the great (King of Macedon, conqueror of Greece, and patron of thing Greek) had a lot to do with making some minor aspects of Greek culture (games, tunics, philosophy, and hoplite techniques) fashionable in Macedon. Greek culture and technology was far, far ahead of the Ancient Macedonians, so of course they would have adopted some Greek culture to help them live a life of ease on the back of the vast tributes old mate Alex was raking in.

Polybius, Plutarch, and Herodotus all describe the Macedonians and Greeks as completely separate cultures and from different ethnic backgrounds (Hellenic for the Greeks and Slavic for the Macedonians). Macedonians were more akin to Thracians and Gauls than to Greeks.

They worshipped different Gods too; the only reason many cultures in the classical/ancient world are thought to have the same gods is due to (Greek) writers like Herodotus who liked to profess that all the cultures in the world worship the same Greek gods with different names. He even said that about the Egyptians - a culture with far more ancient gods than the Greeks'.

Macdeonians spoke ancient Macedonian. Not Greek. After their world conquest, the rich and powerful of Macedon began to write and record political events in a type of Koine Greek specific to Macedon. This is probably because by this period in time much of the courts of Asia Minor spoke Greek, or at least were able to speak Greek and not Macedonian, so it was quite prudent of the Macedonians to encourage that language to be learned by its upper classes. Greek was more spread because of its economic dominance in the region before (and after) Alex the G's time. You said that Macedon is a Greek word - notice how you used the English alphabet to say that? Well you should say that Macedon is based on a Greek word. Also, μακεδονία (Greek for Macedon) is based on an ancient Macedonian word which sounds similar. Don't forget that 99% of the history of the Mediterranean was written in Greek!

To summarise, lumping the Macedonians in with the Greeks would be silly.

[Manuel I Komnenos]

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[Futski]

MACEDON WAS NOT A GREEK CITY STATE!!!!!

Polybius, Plutarch, and Herodotus all describe the Macedonians and Greeks as completely separate cultures and from different ethnic backgrounds (Hellenic for the Greeks and Slavic for the Macedonians). Macedonians were more akin to Thracians and Gauls than to Greeks.

To summarise, lumping the Macedonians in with the Greeks would be silly.

Just weird, since there no real accounts of the Slavs before 600 AD, and Slavs probably came from Central-Eastern Europe, before they moved to the Balkans.

But true, that doesn't make the Ancient Macedonians Greeks, but simply opens for the opportunity, that they were an ancient seperate Balkan people, like the Thracians, the Illyrians, the Albanians and the Greeks.

[Tia]

I would want to play as the Iceni, so a British tribe.

[Stygian Knight]

Sarmatians

[Timotheus]

With my deft handwork I chose germanic tribe!

Why? Why not! They have an interesting starting position, just mere few leagues from the norther borders of Rome at its greatest!
Imagine trying to survive as a german tribe among other rivals, imagine ambushing roman expeditionary forces with javelins in the air, warcries, axes cut to the teeth and roman tunics soaked with urine and feces of fear?!
Imagine carrion crows picking out eyes and eating the lips of numerous dead legionnaires in the teutoburger forest?

Imagine being successful in trading and having small technology advances, also uniting whole nord germany and juteland into one tribe with me as wolf king?! Imagine invading gaul, ligurgia, po rivers and loot, pillage, plunder, rape and burning down Ravenna, Ostia... and maybe Rome itself?!

The game is about rewrite the history!

[Restlessspirit4]

With my deft handwork I chose germanic tribe!

Why? Why not! They have an interesting starting position, just mere few leagues from the norther borders of Rome at its greatest!
Imagine trying to survive as a german tribe among other rivals, imagine ambushing roman expeditionary forces with javelins in the air, warcries, axes cut to the teeth and roman tunics soaked with urine and feces of fear?!
Imagine carrion crows picking out eyes and eating the lips of numerous dead legionnaires in the teutoburger forest?

Imagine being successful in trading and having small technology advances, also uniting whole nord germany and juteland into one tribe with me as wolf king?! Imagine invading gaul, ligurgia, po rivers and loot, pillage, plunder, rape and burning down Ravenna, Ostia... and maybe Rome itself?!

The game is about rewrite the history!

There will be Germans,that is confirmed already I think.But you are talking about much much later time frame,which may take in a DLC.

[DarthRuanek]

There will be Germans,that is confirmed already I think.But you are talking about much much later time frame,which may take in a DLC.

By the time they get to you, you might be the same size as them.

It would be interesting if there was some system for the less civilized nations to "modernize", so to speak, as they become more powerful.