The Dany hating [Do I have to specify that there'll be spoilers?]

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

I can't possibly hate Dany! To her belong "The Song of Ice and Fire"! The Targaryens are the only ones with a real claim to Westeros, the others are just barbaric usurpers.
And actually, Danny will fly the three dragons with the other two cool characters in the book series: Tyrion and Jon.
The dragon has three heads. Dany is one. Tyrion is the bastard son of Aerys Targaryen from his affair with Joanna Lannister. That is why he was born deformed and killed his mother during his birth. He is a dragon, and a dragon warg. And Jon Snow is the bastard born from Lyanna Stark and Raeghar Targaryen rape/love thing. This is the secret that Ned Stark carried with him to the tomb. That shall keep unfolding, and in the end the three heads of the Targaryen dragon will be Dany, Jon and Tyrion.
That, obviously, if GRRM don't decide to change everything, just because he became a millionaire with the moronic HBO TV series, and will end up, probably, feeling better catering to the bunch of illiterates that learned about the world of ASOIAF through that ludicrous thing HBO call "game of thrones". The people that have been loyal and faithful to the series since the end of the 1990s, will probably be put aside, so the HBO viewers can get their way. The first season was not so bad, but the second one, with all the changes they did in the original story from the books, made me never want to watch that thing again.
Regarding the Starks, they are all morons, and the Tullys alike. Ned was always pathetic, Robb very pathetic (he lost a WAR - and his life - because of a b..ch that got something like 10 pages in the book, that is what I call stupid), Cat was very retarded (everything she did was retarded), Sansa is a retarded (FAILED) wannabe Cersei, Arya is totally retarded, and the only one that is LESS RETARDED (still stupid, but no so retarded) is Bran, basically because he got the Crannogmen kids with him (Crannogmen that ARE NOT IN THE HBO TV SERIES). I will not even talk about Edmure, and Lysa, and Lord Hoster and that thing about "tansy" that Cat can't figure out, and is one of the ingredients of the moon tea (Lord Hoster gave moon tea to Lysa so she could drop Littlefinger's bastard out of her womb, and marry Jon Arryn).
And when they say that HBO viewers most-loved character is Robb Stark that get myself really worried. If they decide to keep Robb, or Theon, or any other of the moronic northerners, wolf-kraken-tards alive? If they change the Red Wedding (the best part of the best book, ASoS, where all the boring morons get killed)?
That would be catastrophic to say the least.

Barbaric usurpers? You forgot how they won their Kingdom in the first place.Is this a one-off troll post, or a serious one?

[Archon Patriarch]

I can't possibly hate Dany! To her belong "The Song of Ice and Fire"! The Targaryens are the only ones with a real claim to Westeros, the others are just barbaric usurpers.
And actually, Danny will fly the three dragons with the other two cool characters in the book series: Tyrion and Jon.
The dragon has three heads. Dany is one. Tyrion is the bastard son of Aerys Targaryen from his affair with Joanna Lannister. That is why he was born deformed and killed his mother during his birth. He is a dragon, and a dragon warg. And Jon Snow is the bastard born from Lyanna Stark and Raeghar Targaryen rape/love thing. This is the secret that Ned Stark carried with him to the tomb. That shall keep unfolding, and in the end the three heads of the Targaryen dragon will be Dany, Jon and Tyrion.
That, obviously, if GRRM don't decide to change everything, just because he became a millionaire with the moronic HBO TV series, and will end up, probably, feeling better catering to the bunch of illiterates that learned about the world of ASOIAF through that ludicrous thing HBO call "game of thrones". The people that have been loyal and faithful to the series since the end of the 1990s, will probably be put aside, so the HBO viewers can get their way. The first season was not so bad, but the second one, with all the changes they did in the original story from the books, made me never want to watch that thing again.
Regarding the Starks, they are all morons, and the Tullys alike. Ned was always pathetic, Robb very pathetic (he lost a WAR - and his life - because of a b..ch that got something like 10 pages in the book, that is what I call stupid), Cat was very retarded (everything she did was retarded), Sansa is a retarded (FAILED) wannabe Cersei, Arya is totally retarded, and the only one that is LESS RETARDED (still stupid, but no so retarded) is Bran, basically because he got the Crannogmen kids with him (Crannogmen that ARE NOT IN THE HBO TV SERIES). I will not even talk about Edmure, and Lysa, and Lord Hoster and that thing about "tansy" that Cat can't figure out, and is one of the ingredients of the moon tea (Lord Hoster gave moon tea to Lysa so she could drop Littlefinger's bastard out of her womb, and marry Jon Arryn).
And when they say that HBO viewers most-loved character is Robb Stark that get myself really worried. If they decide to keep Robb, or Theon, or any other of the moronic northerners, wolf-kraken-tards alive? If they change the Red Wedding (the best part of the best book, ASoS, where all the boring morons get killed)?
That would be catastrophic to say the least.

MY EYES?! What madness did I read here? Saruman has poisoned the mind of the king! Barbarians ?! Hardly and you clearly don't get feudalism or setting if you think she has the "Right to the throne" by birth alone, her family sort of lost that when they got completely beaten when they began murder and kidnap of other Nobility. She is easily one of the worst, most predictable characters with so much potential plot armor she's in a nuclear fallout shelter. You talk about bad characters when you bone one of the most hapless! She should die, let another three be the heads just to stick to her.

Also how can Tyrion an Andal descendant and follower of the seven predominantly (I wouldn't class him as religious) be a warg? Through some lucky piece of thousands year old long dead relative, doubt it.

They are including the crannogs and tullys next season - it's not that bad. He won't sell out because he said the book and show are "Two completely different beasts", he intentionally is changing one from the other because they cannot be 100% emulated.

Most of the Starks aren't that bad nor are the tully's they do however make mistakes. Dany is by and far doing more stupid things than them combined yet some how pulls through.

[Mikail Mengsk]

Tyrion is the bastard son of Aerys Targaryen from his affair with Joanna Lannister. That is why he was born deformed and killed his mother during his birth. He is a dragon, and a dragon warg. And Jon Snow is the bastard born from Lyanna Stark and Raeghar Targaryen rape/love thing. This is the secret that Ned Stark carried with him to the tomb.

Didn't read ADWD yet, but is this verified?

[Son of Mars]

Didn't read ADWD yet, but is this verified?

That Tyrion thing is not true at all, but Rhaegar/Lyanna thing is heavily hinted at with the manner of Lyanna's death.

[Ori]

That Tyrion thing is not true at all, but Rhaegar/Lyanna thing is heavily hinted at with the manner of Lyanna's death.

On an unrelated note, people put too much stock in the Rhaegar/Lyanna theory. It makes sense and there's probably at least a 50/50 shot its true, but people treat it as though it has already been proven. Also they tend to give Robert a ton of undeserved hate for some reason.

[HannibalExMachina]

everyone knows that the real tragic love story was connington/rheagar. and jon is the spawn of stark incest.

[Son of Mars]

On an unrelated note, people put too much stock in the Rhaegar/Lyanna theory. It makes sense and there's probably at least a 50/50 shot its true, but people treat it as though it has already been proven. Also they tend to give Robert a ton of undeserved hate for some reason.

I know it's a long shot, but I really want it to be true Which Robert are you talking about here? Baratheon or Arryn. The first isn't well liked because he bankrupted the Kingdom, the second because he is sickly and his insane mother made him a huge wimp, he could use a dose of the Rickon Stark craziness.

[Ori]

I know it's a long shot, but I really want it to be true Which Robert are you talking about here? Baratheon or Arryn. The first isn't well liked because he bankrupted the Kingdom, the second because he is sickly and his insane mother made him a huge wimp, he could use a dose of the Rickon Stark craziness.

Actually I think it might be true as well, I just don't want it to be. Robert is too awesome.

I'm talking about Robert Baratheon by the way. Robin is lame and I can't wait for him to die and have Harry take over the Vale. But Robert is really awesome. His story is great and everything. His beloved is kidnapped and raped by some pompous Lord. His best friend's father and brother are brutally killed. And he and his friend/guardian go on a campaign to save the Seven Kingdoms.

He wins several battles and finally Rhaegar stops raping Lyanna enough to go face the Hell he's unleashed. They meet amid a river of blood and gore from the battle that surrounds them to face off one on one. Robert fights valiantly and bravely and hits Rhaegar so hard his chest caves in.

But it's still a tragedy because Lyanna dies giving birth to Rhaegar's rape-baby, or something like that. And then you get all those depressing lines that make you feel for Robert like this really epic one,

"You want to know the horrible truth? I can't even remember what she looked like. I only know she was the one thing I ever wanted. Someone took her away from me... And Seven Kingdoms couldn't fill the hole she left behind."

And of course there's all that bankrupting the realm nonsense, but after losing the love of his life and having massive emotional trauma (like seriously, read all the lines where he talks about Lyanna) he wasn't really diligent with the realm. I blame Jon Arryn for not doing it right, or whatever. I don't know. Robert's epic though.

[Prophet1331]

Tell me again how marrying sisters and burning people alive isn't barbaric in any way and how politics are the most barbaric thing in Westeros.

[Chris Perry]

I agree that Tyrion is the closest person to Dany that knows a lot about Dragons, just not that he knows the most about dragons in the entire world.
Is there any indication where he is moving at the end of Dance? Its been a while since I read the books.

[Mhaedros]

Robert Arryn was already a maniac, sure, why not make him a warg and fill him with anger?

[Dumanthis]

because in the TV series the actor is the worst she is terrible

[Mikail Mengsk]

I think no one likes Aerys the Mad King, but Rhaegar is undoubtly an interesting character. Many would like tho know if, with him on the throne instead of Aerys, the Targaryens could have ruled Westeros 'till today.

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

I think no one likes Aerys the Mad King, but Rhaegar is undoubtly an interesting character. Many would like tho know if, with him on the throne instead of Aerys, the Targaryens could have ruled Westeros 'till today.

I'm not so sure about that, considering he did such foolish decisions such as kidnapping Lyanna.

[Mhaedros]

I gotta agree with Feanor here. Sure, Mormont told Dany Rhaegar was a hero or something, but that's just cause he wanted to get into her pants. I think Rhaegar was just like Aerys and Viserys, but just not as mad yet, and I think that's where Dany is going to end up. She's already going a bit mad, by saying that all those salves are her children and wanting to take sick Astapori into her city when she can hardly feed her own people, is hated by everyone and knows itd kill most of her population.

[Chris Perry]

I gotta agree with Feanor here. Sure, Mormont told Dany Rhaegar was a hero or something, but that's just cause he wanted to get into her pants. I think Rhaegar was just like Aerys and Viserys, but just not as mad yet, and I think that's where Dany is going to end up. She's already going a bit mad, by saying that all those salves are her children and wanting to take sick Astapori into her city when she can hardly feed her own people, is hated by everyone and knows itd kill most of her population.

I thought Rhaegar was already showing signs of massive depression (I know very little about mental health, but he was called melancholic a lot), just not Aerys level madness.
And Dany isn't that mad- just a bit delusional, and doesn't know enough to predict the consequences of her decisions. At least she isn't into psychopath territory, like Aerys was.
Its debatable how mad Viserys was, genetically at least. I mean, from birth he was educated about how superior he was to everyone else- then orphaned and told he was the only hope for his family. I'm not denying he was mad, just that it came from his genes.

[Ori]

I like where the Qarthians asked to see her dragons, a pretty reasonable request given there hasn't been a dragon in hundreds of years and it's virtually impossible for one to have come back, and she completely refused for basically no reason. Then when they made it clear they would leave her to die if she didn't, did she say, "Ah wait! Ok, I'll show you."? No, instead she went on a massive rant on how she was going to burn Qarth to the ground and kill them all. What a genius diplomat. Only by pure luck on her part did she get into Qarth, and even then it was just so that Summer Islander could take advantage of her dragons and become King of Qarth.

After she crushes the Yunkai in the field, does she go into the city to show them what happens when you disobey the Dragon? Nope, why the would you do that? Let's just make these brutal slavers give their word not to go back to slaving. Genius. Can't even believe why they would go back to slaving as soon as she leaves.

Then, the Qarthians begin blockading her in Meereen. Well that's ok, I mean she's got three massive Dragons that spew fire so hot that they can melt stone. She'll definitely use her dragons to stop the blockade and save her people from starvation... Oh wait, that . Some peasant girl got eaten once, so let's just lock our dragons up in a pit (which she ing knows will make them smaller and less powerful than otherwise) and let them chill. Let's just chill and let our people starve while Dany goes and eats expensive foods, gets married, and all that cool stuff.

The Astapori are infected with the flux, a disease that has wiped out entire armies and doomed Kingdoms? Let's let them into the city.

Remember when she hears from the Butcher King's envoy about how the Yunkai are training massive armies, all these slaver cities are mobilizing, they're get a bloody Khalasar to come, etc. ? Remember what a great and genius strategy used to fix these problems? No, you don't because she ing did nothing. Holy , I know the Butcher King sucks and all, but he's not as bad as the Wise Masters.

My Dragons are born. Will I go back to that holy Dothraki city (I forget what it's called) and use them to convince some Dothraki to join a make-shift Khalasar? that. Red Waste here I come! She doesn't even have a plan to get by the Red Waste. She just walks into it. Also I know there were like 20,000 Dothraki in her way or something, but she only has like 20 followers. She could sneak past that. Hell, safer bet than the Red Waste.

I've completely destroyed Meereen's only source of income and need to return it to greatness. What will I do? Why, I'll grow beans and olives, of course!

She really doesn't seem a master strategist either. All her opponents had no idea what they were doing. The Yunkai outnumbered her and knew her dragons couldn't do much. Would they attack after making the offer (when she would presumably be unsuspecting of an attack)? Nah, they'll dick around outside the walls. Meereen should've done something like, I don't know, put a bloody grate on the sewage pipe. This is almost as bad as the Death Star. A bloody 50 dollar grate. Go to ing Meereen Mart and buy a ing grate you .

[Archon Patriarch]

I like where the Qarthians asked to see her dragons, a pretty reasonable request given there hasn't been a dragon in hundreds of years and it's virtually impossible for one to have come back, and she completely refused for basically no reason. Then when they made it clear they would leave her to die if she didn't, did she say, "Ah wait! Ok, I'll show you."? No, instead she went on a massive rant on how she was going to burn Qarth to the ground and kill them all. What a genius diplomat. Only by pure luck on her part did she get into Qarth, and even then it was just so that Summer Islander could take advantage of her dragons and become King of Qarth.

After she crushes the Yunkai in the field, does she go into the city to show them what happens when you disobey the Dragon? Nope, why the would you do that? Let's just make these brutal slavers give their word not to go back to slaving. Genius. Can't even believe why they would go back to slaving as soon as she leaves.

Then, the Qarthians begin blockading her in Meereen. Well that's ok, I mean she's got three massive Dragons that spew fire so hot that they can melt stone. She'll definitely use her dragons to stop the blockade and save her people from starvation... Oh wait, that . Some peasant girl got eaten once, so let's just lock our dragons up in a pit (which she ing knows will make them smaller and less powerful than otherwise) and let them chill. Let's just chill and let our people starve while Dany goes and eats expensive foods, gets married, and all that cool stuff.

The Astapori are infected with the flux, a disease that has wiped out entire armies and doomed Kingdoms? Let's let them into the city.

Remember when she hears from the Butcher King's envoy about how the Yunkai are training massive armies, all these slaver cities are mobilizing, they're get a bloody Khalasar to come, etc. ? Remember what a great and genius strategy used to fix these problems? No, you don't because she ing did nothing. Holy , I know the Butcher King sucks and all, but he's not as bad as the Wise Masters.

My Dragons are born. Will I go back to that holy Dothraki city (I forget what it's called) and use them to convince some Dothraki to join a make-shift Khalasar? that. Red Waste here I come! She doesn't even have a plan to get by the Red Waste. She just walks into it. Also I know there were like 20,000 Dothraki in her way or something, but she only has like 20 followers. She could sneak past that. Hell, safer bet than the Red Waste.

I've completely destroyed Meereen's only source of income and need to return it to greatness. What will I do? Why, I'll grow beans and olives, of course!

She really doesn't seem a master strategist either. All her opponents had no idea what they were doing. The Yunkai outnumbered her and knew her dragons couldn't do much. Would they attack after making the offer (when she would presumably be unsuspecting of an attack)? Nah, they'll dick around outside the walls. Meereen should've done something like, I don't know, put a bloody grate on the sewage pipe. This is almost as bad as the Death Star. A bloody 50 dollar grate. Go to ing Meereen Mart and buy a ing grate you .

This. For the most part I agree with what he's saying. Come on guys, you've got to agree Dany's inept.

[Chris Perry]

^^ In defense of Dany, she has absolutely no way to control her dragons- she can't use them in battle. Have you actually read the books?

[Dido]

If he had'nt read the books he would'nt have known about what happened in slavers bay now would he?