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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaedros View Post
    Well obviously, but it seems to me the Stark kids are strong enough to take it, except maybe Rickon who was a bit unstable already in Winterfell when mommy and daddy left to die
    Cannibal island probably isn't the place to recover from mental instability. I just hope Osha has been taken care of and that Rickon could be fostered by House Manderly(sophisticated Southron upbringing) or House Glover(REAL NORTHMEN) after Lord Hand Davos finds him.

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    Of course, the real question isn't "Why does everyone hate Dany?", but "Why don't more people hate Catelyn and Sansa?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mount Suribachi View Post
    Of course, the real question isn't "Why does everyone hate Dany?", but "Why don't more people hate Catelyn and Sansa?"
    who sais we don't hate Sansa and Catelyn , i personally do especially Sansa , and i think manny newcomers to the boock who have watched the series will like the Dany from the book more since in the show she has been reduced to a that always says "i will tacke what it's rightfully mine" ore her other repetitive lines licke " i have dragons" "my dragons are qute" and let's not forget the stupid part where she looks so stupid and yells licke a manniac for nothing " WHERE ARE MY DRAGON,WHERE ARE MY DrAAAGOONS"

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    House Stark
    I could imagine that Rickon Stark will end up as lord of Winterfell because all of the northern houses will join him(yes, now that Alys Karstark was saved by Jon snow the karstarks will also side with the Starks)and the Boltons and Freys won't have a chance against him.It could also be that Bran returns and I think he would be a good ruler because after he became crippled he has been very mature and learning from the three-eyed crow will make him wise.

    House Lannister
    On the other hand I don't think that Tyrion will become lord of the rock. He is one of my favorite characters but even if he takes the rock with the second sons(which is possible since they sent all their soldiers to the Riverlands and the garrison would be quite small) none of the lords that serve house Lannister would swear fealty to him because he is a dwarf and even though he is really cool and clever they don't respect him because he is so small...

    I hate dany because I am thirteen years old and this may sound stupid but I THINK I could run a kingdom better than her(and because of the reasons that everyone else is saying). I know that is easy to say and hard to do but that is my honest opinion...

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    Actually Starks have lost far more than Lannisters as a family. There are many branches of House Lannister and Casterly Rock is one of the safest places in Westeros. What about the Starks? Only 4 Starks are alive at this point, all of them are kids.
    Arya is becoming a faceless man and faceless men don't really have an identity. She will probably revenge her father, brother and mother but technically once she truly becomes a faceless man she will no longer be Arya Stark.
    Sansa is a woman so her heir won't be a Stark if she inherits Winterfell.
    Bran cannot have children.
    Jon is technically a Targaryen.
    That only leaves Rickon who is 4, crazy and on Skagos. Future is really not that bright for House Stark.

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    Rickon is only 4 if he goes to the Manderlys they should be able to gt him to behave normally...

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    Rickon always looked a bit of wild in my opinion.

    I find it strange that the Starks have no minor branches. I mean the Karstarks were founded ages ago and I don't think they didn't mingle with other houses since then. I guess that's the problem when being a northern house, if you have more sons you send them to the Wall and you wake up latter to see you're running short on family members.
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    The reasons I started to dislike Daenerys were mainly her hopelessly boring chapters in A Clash of Kings. Then there is the diamond plot armour, why does never, for all her foolishness, something happen to her? And the last is my great fear that she will kill off Stannis. [Which I found grows to people like a beard.]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Feanaro Curufinwe View Post
    And the last is my great fear that she will kill off Stannis. [Which I found grows to people like a beard.]
    Exactly my thought. And to the statements above, I do hate Sansa. Rickon or Robb deserved that POV chapter slot. I also think Catelyn was stupid for arresting Tyrion, and freeing Jaime Lannister. However, most of her other actions had reason behind them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Mars View Post
    Exactly my thought. And to the statements above, I do hate Sansa. Rickon or Robb deserved that POV chapter slot. I also think Catelyn was stupid for arresting Tyrion, and freeing Jaime Lannister. However, most of her other actions had reason behind them.
    I somewhat dislike Sansa, although it isn't her fault that she isn't in many interesting situations, but Robb (Rickon's too young) as a POV would ruin one of the defining points of the books- we very rarely have a POV for somebody actually making decisions. For example- Catelyn, not Robb; Davos, not Stannis; Sansa/Tyrion, not Tywin/Littlefinger; Hotah/Arianne, not Doran. Jon Snow and Danerys are the only POV's we have who don't have to answer to anybody in theory (and actually once Jon Snow becomes leader of the Night's Watch he's really under the command of Stannis). That actually makes this somewhat interesting- Daenerys is the most independent of the major POV characters (the only one who serves as a head of state) and yet is extremely boring and hated. Perhaps because as she actually has the ability to use her power we get sick of her showing the same restraint the other POV's must show?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gromit View Post
    I somewhat dislike Sansa, although it isn't her fault that she isn't in many interesting situations, but Robb (Rickon's too young) as a POV would ruin one of the defining points of the books- we very rarely have a POV for somebody actually making decisions. For example- Catelyn, not Robb; Davos, not Stannis; Sansa/Tyrion, not Tywin/Littlefinger; Hotah/Arianne, not Doran. Jon Snow and Danerys are the only POV's we have who don't have to answer to anybody in theory (and actually once Jon Snow becomes leader of the Night's Watch he's really under the command of Stannis). That actually makes this somewhat interesting- Daenerys is the most independent of the major POV characters (the only one who serves as a head of state) and yet is extremely boring and hated. Perhaps because as she actually has the ability to use her power we get sick of her showing the same restraint the other POV's must show?
    good point, but a Rickon POV on Skagos would've been pretty cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Son of Mars View Post
    good point, but a Rickon POV on Skagos would've been pretty cool.
    More likely we'll get an Osha one about how Rickon feels like home there and starts showing leadership qualities.
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    I don't hate Sansa because she's boring, I hate her because she's a stuck-up, immature, treacherous, dis-loyal, stupid, cowardly, snobbish little .
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    She gets better in the fourth book when she pretends to be lowborn. I even liked the last Alayne chapters, except for that lil' SOB Robert
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    alayne shows some sense and even intelligence, much better than sansa
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    Well, she's developed two survival tools - silence and courtesy. But apart from that she has a long, long, LONG way to go before she redeems herself in my eyes.
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    She has also started to mistrust everyone.
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    Default Re: The Dany hating [Do I have to specify that there'll be spoilers?]

    Sansa in the first book, Cat in 2nd and 1st half of the 3rd book, Dany in the rest.

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    Sansa's character was like a fruit ripening, I think. She kind of sucked at first. But once she'd gone through all that she began realizing how things were turning out by the end of the second book. By the third she was ready she just wasn't in the right environment yet. Stuck as virtually a captive in King's Landing she didn't really have anything she could do. Though I did find Joffrey's Wedding chapters to be some of my favorites in the series.

    Anyway, Cat made as many bad choices as possible. It was kind of absurd how she thought sending Brienne with Jaime to King's Landing was going to work.

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    I had no problems with Catelyn on my first read, now on my re-read I can't get over what a complete and utter she is. We all know how she treats Jon like crap - as if its Jon's fault that he's Ned's bastard - but she also treats her brother Edmure like a naughtly child, constantly snapping at him and scolding him just about every time he opens his mouth. Not to mention she was the one who insisted Ned go to KL and set it all in motion, she was the one who kidnapped Tyrion and took things to the point of war, she was the one who sets Jaime free which aside from the sheer idiocy of it is a crime punishable by death based on how Robb treats the Karstarks. She constantly undermines Robb in and out of council. She constantly thinks about Robb as a baby, breastfeeding him etc and even worse, constantly tells him this, instead of regarding him as the man grown and King in the North that he is. Lastly, she labours under the delusion that entire point of the war, the reason all the Lords of the North have marched south, why all those men have died - is to get Arya and Sansa back safe.

    People talk about how Lady Stoneheart is bitter and driven by the need for RW vengeance, I think she was a nasty, bitter, selfish person way before then.

    EDIT: Oh, and she constantly refuses to go and do what she should do, which is to return to a Winterfell bereft of adult leadership and look after her crippled son and her emotionally unstable son.
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