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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis Baratheon View Post
    He's cruel to very many characters and families, he's actually crueler to Lannisters than Starks. Yes they won the war but they lost so many family members they're like to break under any new threat. While all remaining Stark children have extremely thick plot armours(and Jon too).
    Ditto, i doubt even the dragons could chew through the Stark armour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin616 View Post
    Ditto, i doubt even the dragons could chew through the Stark armour.
    Very well said . If Dany or any Stark kid dies, i still need to see what happened to Jon, i think i will not be able to talk or do anything during a week . I would surrender to his brilliant literary mind even more. Like when i learned that Aegon was alive

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    Last time I checked no Lannister was a zombie. I also haven't heard of any Lannisters with lion heads sewn on their bodies. Lannisters suffered a lot as a family but it's the fate of individual Starks that I find disturbing.

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    Robbwind and UnCat are very gruesome, i agree-though zombie can actually revenge to his murderers.
    My point is, Lannisters are now almost non-existant force-who remained? Jaime on his way to BwB, Daven, Lancel the zealot, Cersei in prison, Genna Lannister who is old and married to a Frey... some few more untested youths... and Tyrion who is far, far away and when he returns it will not be a happy reunion with Cersei(if she's still alive). And no Lannister, except Tyrion has significant plot armour. There will be more Lannister deaths(Jaime, Cersei, Genna, Lancel,) all "boiled leather" plot armour.
    And there will always be 4(5) Stark children to continue on. I can bet no one of them will ever die(except Jon perhaps if he is AA).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stannis Baratheon View Post
    Robbwind and UnCat are very gruesome, i agree-though zombie can actually revenge to his murderers.
    My point is, Lannisters are now almost non-existant force-who remained? Jaime on his way to BwB, Daven, Lancel the zealot, Cersei in prison, Genna Lannister who is old and married to a Frey... some few more untested youths... and Tyrion who is far, far away and when he returns it will not be a happy reunion with Cersei(if she's still alive). And no Lannister, except Tyrion has significant plot armour. There will be more Lannister deaths(Jaime, Cersei, Genna, Lancel,) all "boiled leather" plot armour.
    And there will always be 4(5) Stark children to continue on. I can bet no one of them will ever die(except Jon perhaps if he is AA).
    The only reason I'd disagree on anything you said is that the Starks are lacking in family members compared to the huge extended family of the Lannisters. Losing one Stark has to be comparative to losing dozens of Lannisters. Ned, Catelyn and Robb dying were huge blows to an already small family, while the only significant deaths for the Lannisters were Tywin and Kevan. Sure the other Lannisters have suffered, but so have the surviving Starks. Plus, I don't believe the Lannisters had their capital burned and put to the sword.
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    Family predictions:

    1. House Stark will probably come back in power in the North, due to the large amount of Stark claimants. House Bolton will surely fall, although Roose may just be willy enough to slither his way out of it.

    2. House Frey will implode as the various branches fight for control of the crossing. A new joint Lannister-Frey house will likely be born, based at Riverrun and Darry.

    3. The Westerlands will endure under "Lannister" rule, with the quotes due to the fact that the dynasty will change to another branch.

    4. The Vale will see a transition from Arryn rule to another family. Other than that, status quo.

    5. The Martells will come out on top, due to the fact that they haven't exhausted themselves with years of warfare and that they have plenty of food to sell for the winter, ensuring prosperity.

    6. The Tyrells, having overreached their grasp, will get a brick to the face. It is very likely both Mace and Margery will not survive. On the other hand, the rest of the family might soldier on.

    7. The Stormlands will be given to a member of whatever family comes out on top.

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    I agree and hope it will go this way.
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    I wouldn't mind the Starks surviving or becoming some very important figures in the world (Bran an "Old God", Arya a Master assassin) but after everything that happened I think they becoming the most powerful family in the North again would be too much of a fairy tale ending (good prevails in the end and after everything they somehow get right back on top).

    I kind of liked Daven's character, I wouldn't mind it if he gets the Westerlands in the end.

    Don't the Tyrells have some other branches of their family? I think there was some low-born Tyrell at the Citadel at one point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet1331 View Post
    I wouldn't mind the Starks surviving or becoming some very important figures in the world (Bran an "Old God", Arya a Master assassin) but after everything that happened I think they becoming the most powerful family in the North again would be too much of a fairy tale ending (good prevails in the end and after everything they somehow get right back on top).

    I kind of liked Daven's character, I wouldn't mind it if he gets the Westerlands in the end.
    I mean Rickon Stark being supported by very loyal bannermen(i.e. Manderlys, Glovers, Mormonts, Reeds and Umbers ... stupid Karstarks had to go down the Greystark path but nevermind) I feel like Howland Reed would come protect Rickon since he and Ned were pretty tight.

    I agree with your view on Devan Lannister. Seems like a good guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prophet1331 View Post
    I wouldn't mind the Starks surviving or becoming some very important figures in the world (Bran an "Old God", Arya a Master assassin) but after everything that happened I think they becoming the most powerful family in the North again would be too much of a fairy tale ending (good prevails in the end and after everything they somehow get right back on top).

    I kind of liked Daven's character, I wouldn't mind it if he gets the Westerlands in the end.

    Don't the Tyrells have some other branches of their family? I think there was some low-born Tyrell at the Citadel at one point.
    no i don't think it's all fin and dandy with the starks , beacause Arya is becoming a mercilles killer, rickon is on an island with canibals and who know maybe he will develop a taste for human flesh , and are we sure that the intentions for bran from bloodraven and the children are entirely good ,sansa is becomming smarter so she will grow upp in an manipulos , and jon will not die now but at the verry end of the series

    and you've gotta note down that as children seeing all this horrors of war afects you in some way

    seeing your father die for a crime he didn't comit, fleeing your home from the rebelious usurpers that have conquerd it and destroyed it , beiing mistreaded by a maniac like Joffrey , so it's bound to affect you in way maybe a messed up way

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    Default Re: The Dany hating [Do I have to specify that there'll be spoilers?]

    Aegon was a cheap cop-out, Martin forgot he needed 3 dragons so he brought one to life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Aegon was a cheap cop-out, Martin forgot he needed 3 dragons so he brought one to life.
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    ofc it's a cop-out, why would they save only Aegon and not his sister?

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    You sure it even is Aegon? Could be a fake you know. Remember Quaithes warning about the mummers dragon?

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    Because switching babies is easy (they look alike and they can't talk) while finding a replica toddler of the princess Rhaenys (thats her name right) especially on short notice is almost impossible, and the princess wasn't as vital as the crown-prince but that is secondary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis XVI View Post
    Because switching babies is easy (they look alike and they can't talk) while finding a replica toddler of the princess Rhaenys (thats her name right) especially on short notice is almost impossible, and the princess wasn't as vital as the crown-prince but that is secondary.
    Except the killers didn't even know what Rhaenys looked like... All you need is the right age and hair colour. I'm starting to believe Aegon is a son of Illyrio Mopatis anyway.

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    All that is required is that someone knows what the princess looks like because all it takes to ruin the plan is for some guy to say "That does not look like Rhaenys" to ruin the plan.
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    Yes but honestly, how many people knew exactly what Rhaenys looked like? And how many of those were willing to kill her? I'd say the number is very close to zero.
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    the boltons got away with fake arya in front of stark bannermen, so yes, fake isnt that unlikely. fake pretenders arent uncommon in history, so why shouldnt grrm bring one? make him a bit likeable, and make sure he means buisness while dany is still doing nothing.

    actually, that quite convinces me that grrm is giving us another herring. he cant miss that ppl are pissed about dany being useless, so he dangles some targ before us, just to pull the rug from under the ruse when no one expects it.

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    Well obviously, but it seems to me the Stark kids are strong enough to take it, except maybe Rickon who was a bit unstable already in Winterfell when mommy and daddy left to die
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