The Dany hating [Do I have to specify that there'll be spoilers?]

[Vahir]

Not really, because Dany is a girl without any real followers except an army of mercenary eunuchs, who has no claim whatsoever on anything in the Slaver's Bay, and yet she goes there, disrespects their culture, poops on everything they like, and free the slaves, who will only get it worse than before. Sure, they weren't free to do whatever the hell they wanted, but they had food and shelter. Saying they are her "children" is just ridiculous. Its someone from the US went to India, burned down a city and then told the people without jobs they are free to do whatever they like, while screwing up the lives of the commoners and the rich. How long do you think that would work? The only thing Dany has done in the Slaver's Bay is killing hundreds of thousands of innocents and putting people like the Butcher king in charge.

Slavery is a horrible institution that deprives people of their basic rights. Don't believe me? Re-read Tyrion's slave chapters. Look where the runaway slaves were tied to posts and were torn apart alive by slingers while they screamed. Look where slaves were dragged and sold like cattle, whipped if they disobeyed or made the smallest errors. Look at the training of Unsullied, at the blood soaked bricks of Astapor. Look where slaves lived with a sword hanging over their heads, where, when the master died, his favorite slaves were murdered with him. This series raises some interesting moral and philosophical questions, yes, but if you think that the end message is that slavery is acceptable, I'm disappointed.

Dany controls an army of the finest infantry in the world, who know neither fear nor pain. She has tens of thousands of freedmen who nearly worship her. Slaves all over Essos are waiting for her to come and throw off their chains (Or at least those of Volantis). When she returns to Meereen, she will have three dragons at her disposal, which was enough for Aegon to conquer all of Westeros. In short, I don't think that she's going to have any problems in that corner.

[RayFinkle]

Thats what Hobbes said! ....... to the whole leave ramsay in charge bit

[Feanaro Curufinwe]

Three not fully grown Dragons. Whose development she has also been stupidly sabotaging. Those ''Finest infantrymen in the World" will be nigh-useless due to being lightly armoured and facing armoured enemies who won't bother turning them into Unsullied Pincushions. And what can she do with these former slaves? She can barely feed them as it is.

[ccllnply]

Her followers would be punished if not outright killed. You can be certain they'd be made to suffer, as they're essentially runaway slaves.

So basically, word for word what I just said......

I think that there's a difference in morality here between you and me, because, in my opinion, there are some evils in this world that are worth fighting against, even if people die. Crazy, I know.

It is pretty crazy, yes. Dany never had the strength, ruthlessness or tactical awareness to completely destroy the cities of Slaver's Bay so in her, emotionally unstable, attempt to get attention, love and to feel like a "mother", she essentially attacked the cities, killing soldiers, the masters and citizens. She freed all the saves and then fought to keep them free, killing more soldiers on both sides and after all that the war can only end in two ways. She loses getting all her loyal courtiers killed and having all the slaves tortured, re-enslaved or killed as well as getting the soldiers on both sides killed. Or she wins, getting soldiers killed again and then she should leave for Westeros which will leave her freed slaves vunerable to another Butcher King or the masters just coming back and destroying them. And if she realises this, and stays. Well then she's just destroyed a whole peninsula of civilization just so she can sit in the middle of the ruins with her "children".

You claim we can a difference in opinion but you seem to have a huge contradiction in your own opinion. You say that Dany was right to stay because her "children" would have been killed but then you say it's find for her to fight the slavers, even if people die. Perhaps a bit fanboyish?

Edit: I mean, seriously, that's like saying that we should leave Ramsay to rule the north, because, hey, if we tried to stop him thousands would die.

Yeah, because their the same......

but if you think that the end message is that slavery is acceptable, I'm disappointed.

Disappointed? Oh.... no?

And not once has anyone said that the message of the books are that slavery is acceptable. To be honest, if you think the message of the books is that slavery is unacceptable, you should probably go back and read them again

Dany controls an army of the finest infantry in the world, who know neither fear nor pain.

Yes and how did they become that way? Yes children, that's right...... SLAVERY!

[Vahir]

So basically, word for word what I just said......

I just wanted to make sure it was well established, because some people seem to think that it'd be a good thing for her to leave the slaves to that fate.

It is pretty crazy, yes. Dany never had the strength, ruthlessness or tactical awareness to completely destroy the cities of Slaver's Bay so in her,

I'm not sure what you mean by tactical awareness. She seems to have proved herself capable at warfare, as seen during the first battle against the Yunkai and the taking of Meereen. As for strength and ruthlessness, you'd have to ask those grand masters she crucified... Although I'm getting the feeling that she's going to emerge in the next books much more of both thanks to her experience in the Dothraki Sea.

emotionally unstable,

[Citation Needed]

attempt to get attention, love and to feel like a "mother",

It's the slaves she freed who started calling her mother, she never asked for it. As for attention, why the hell would she need to attempt to get it? She's the freaking dragon queen of Meereen. Attention comes with the package.

she essentially attacked the cities, killing soldiers, the masters and citizens. She freed all the saves and then fought to keep them free, killing more soldiers on both sides

"I do believe that's called war." -Tyrion Lannister

and after all that the war can only end in two ways. She loses getting all her loyal courtiers killed and having all the slaves tortured, re-enslaved or killed as well as getting the soldiers on both sides killed. Or she wins, getting soldiers killed again and then she should leave for Westeros which will leave her freed slaves vunerable to another Butcher King or the masters just coming back and destroying them. And if she realises this, and stays. Well then she's just destroyed a whole peninsula of civilization just so she can sit in the middle of the ruins with her "children".

Soldiers fight. Soldiers die. It's part of the job. And you seem to be omitting the option of leaving a strong regime in Meereen run by a strong, loyal hand and supported by the army of freedmen. And honestly, that's not a civilization I'd mourn.

You claim we can a difference in opinion but you seem to have a huge contradiction in your own opinion. You say that Dany was right to stay because her "children" would have been killed but then you say it's find for her to fight the slavers, even if people die.

Honestly, no, I don't see a contradiction. If she leaves, her followers are enslaves and/or killed. If she stays, some of them die in the fighting as she defeats the slavers. There's a difference.

Perhaps a bit fanboyish?

Yes, that's right, I'm an absolute fanboy. [/Sarcasm]

I'm just sick of people's whining that Dany's stupid, that she's murderous, that she's Hitler reborn and deserves to die at the stake for her crimes.

Yeah, because their the same......

Though the comparison was an exaggeration, the principle still stands. Do you go to war, risking the deaths of thousands, to end a repressive and repulsive rule? I say yes.

Disappointed? Oh.... no?

And not once has anyone said that the message of the books are that slavery is acceptable. To be honest, if you think the message of the books is that slavery is unacceptable, you should probably go back and read them again

Slavery=Bad is one of the themes of the books I've interpreted, yes, particularity from ADoD.

Yes and how did they become that way? Yes children, that's right...... SLAVERY!

And that's horrible. But under Dany's command, they're working to end that institution, or at least weaken it, so that others don't have to suffer the same.

[ccllnply]

I'm not sure what you mean by tactical awareness. She seems to have proved herself capable at warfare, as seen during the first battle against the Yunkai and the taking of Meereen. As for strength and ruthlessness, you'd have to ask those grand masters she crucified... Although I'm getting the feeling that she's going to emerge in the next books much more of both thanks to her experience in the Dothraki Sea.

For strength, I meant the size of her army. As for tactical awareness and ruthless, the fact that the slavers have come back and attacked her shows that, tactically, she never prepared for that situation. And she wasn't ruthless enough to make sure the slavers couldn't come back.

[Citation Needed]

Oh yeah, it's in Bran's 22nd chapter in......

Of course I don't have a citation. There's no line in the books that Martin goes "Oh yeah, and btw Dany is unemotionally unstable". It's based off what I said after that

It's the slaves she freed who started calling her mother, she never asked for it. As for attention, why the hell would she need to attempt to get it? She's the freaking dragon queen of Meereen. Attention comes with the package.

My memory is a little hazy but I seem to remember Dany having a dream where her "children" were calling her "mother". Then when she freed them she started riding Silver through them, basking in the love. And don't even get me started on Drago and Daario. Because of her early life with Viserys, she needs love and approval, which is understandable. However, she causes great destruction, starts wars and causes problems for everyone to get that love, which is not understandable.

Soldiers fight. Soldiers die. It's part of the job.

Slaves work. Slaves live. It's part of the job.

I think the problem is that you have the exact same ideas as Dany. Killing slavers, soldiers and innocent citizens who have slaves, oh that's fine. But enslave someone or kill a slave? OMG! That's awful!

And you seem to be omitting the option of leaving a strong regime in Meereen run by a strong, loyal hand and supported by the army of freedmen. And honestly, that's not a civilization I'd mourn.

I omitted it because she already tried that, it led to the Butcher King and things were far worse than before she arrived

I'm just sick of people's whining that Dany's stupid, that she's murderous, that she's Hitler reborn and deserves to die at the stake for her crimes.

I never said that. No one did. I actually said I don't even hate Dany. Infact, to me it just seems that to you, Dany can do no wrong so then when people critize her, no matter what they write, it ends up looking to you like that above quote. I hate the term "fanboy" but in this instance, it seems justified

[Mikail Mengsk]

DAny just did what modern men usually does when they chose to "free" some area of the world: take it by force and trying to change it. It simply doesn't work, even if it's done with the best intents possible. Also, Dany has close to zero tolerance on local costumes and her arrival ultimately led to a bloodbath and a significant worse life for all the people she tried to "liberate". She's emotional and sometimes she acts driven by such emotions.

On top of all that, she has no control over three "weapons of mass destruction" she brought there.

Finally, even if she manages to recover the situation and somehow change how things works in the Slaver's Bay, it's unlikely that the "change" will survive her inevitable departure to Westeros. Once she will leave, things will go down quickly.

[HouseStarkFTW]

She won't leave, not willingly. She has made that abundantly clear. And because of her stay in Meereen, innocents are dying. Everywhere she goes, death and destruction follows her. She liberated Astapor, she left, the King she put in place reintroduced slaves (slaves became the masters and the masters became the slaves this time). Soon after, Astapor falls and rejoins the slave trade. She tries so hard to change everything to her perspective (which I do think is the right perspective), but everything she accomplishes ends up being an epic fail. She is in a bad situation, but she is completely to blame, no one else, not the Yunkai'i, The Great Masters... she is the one who took up responsibility of her 'children'. I hope she never makes it to Westeros, there has already been so much death and destruction, she will just bring more.

[Blackguard]

I was strongly annoyed by her at times, but it never developed into hate

[Littlefinger87]

From the comments there seems to be three main reasons why the Dany character is unlikable/hated.
1) She is a naive teenager who is given everything she's accomplished
2) She is immune to the ASOIF any character can die at any time rule
3) Her military victories are not a matter of her strategic brilliance but rather her generals/unsullied troops.

I would add a fourth to this list: the long interval between books three and five slow her story line to a crawl because of the Meerenese knot. This deliberate slwoing of Dany's storyline takes place to allow for the dragons to grow and for Dany to actually gain experience running a city and holding court. Both of these are essential for Dany to take the Iron throne and to hold it.


1) Dany is sold to Khal Drogo to give her brother a khalazar army. She finds herself in an extremely uncomfortable position (being raped nightly), but she perseveres, learns the Dothraki language and seduces Khal Drogo to her cause. There is nothing naive or teenager-like in her behavior here. She successfully changes the mind of one of the greatest warriors in Essos by herself (Cersei herself would be impressed). Although it doesn't hurt that she almost dies because of Robert Baratheon's wine assassin. She repeatedly stands up to and for Drogo to free slaves and lessen the pain of her subjects. She is a force for good which continues in her later chapters.

2) I don't see how one can make a plausible argument that Dany hasn't sacrificed anything or been close to death at times in her story line. She's sold to be raped repeatedly, almost dies in childbirth, sacrifices her son to save his father, kills Drogo, is almost killed by Drogo's bloodrider, is almost killed in the Red waste, is almost killed by the wizards of Qarth, almost killed by the Sorrowful man, and almost killed by the sellsword captain Meros. just because none of these potential assassinations are successful, they should not be discounted as "plot armor." She very nearly dies five or six times before she has a capable army and queensguard to surround her. G.R.R.M. wants us to believe that Dany can die which is why he included all of these attempts.

3) The battle outside Yunkai shows in a nutshell that this line of thinking is false. She comes up with the entire battle plan before they even call the sellswords and Yunkai to talk. She gets one sellsword company drunk, the other she gets by impressing Daario enough to kill two men for her after they had just met. She finishes the Yunkai off by implying that the battle would commence in three days when she had planned to attack that nigh all along. All of this was her strategy. Not Mormonts, not Selmy's, hers. And she did it all by herself without any use of her dragons.

Her strategic brilliance is coupled with her goodness in her desire to free the slaves held by their Harpy masters. When she frees the slaves, she instantly becomes their savior, and they fight for her without reservation. She wins Mereen in large part because of a slave revolt inside the city started by her bloodriders, Unsullied, and Mormont and Selmy. Another plan almost entirely of her own (Brown Ben Plumm should be given some credit for putting the drains idea into her head). But she came up with the idea of turning her fleet of three ships into siege equipment. Her resourcefulness in a dire situation saved her people from disease and starvation.

4. The long wait for Dany's storyline from book 3 to book 5 compounded with Dany's staying in Mereen for so long gives the impression that her arc is fading from importance and thus becoming boring. The additional foreign nature of Mereen with its exotic customs further drive some readers to discount Dany's rule in Mereen as serving little purpose to further the overall story. This is unwise in my opinion as George is setting Dany up to be more than just the Queen of Westeros, but to unite Westeros and Essos under one Targaryean rule.

Dany already has over a hundred thousand men and women at her command. She has over 10,000 of the greatest infantry in the world (infantry that can wear armor when they travel to Westeros and don't have to deal with the hot sun). And now she has come into contact with one of the last remaining pieces of her puzzle, a khalazar. If Dany convinces the Khals to unite and fight for her, the slavers from Mereen to Qarth will quake. She has the ability with Drogon to cover great distances at speed. Her next mission will probably be just that: Unite the Khals and take the fight past Mereen to greater Essos. With the addition of the Greyjoy fleet, her power will multiply and she will finally have the ability to invade Westeros. Now that's a likable character if I do say so myself.

George has tied himself in knots where Dany's concerned because she is so reliant on prophecy. "To go West, you must go East." Many fans have wanted Dany to invade Westeros several books ago, but she hasn't because she has been following Quaithe's instructions. My thought on the matter is she will pass by Asshai, or fly with Drogon to Valyria and findsomething important there. Perhaps more dragon eggs, or a weapon against the White Walkers perhaps?

[Mhaedros]

1. She's not "raped", she might have been unwilling at first, but believe you me she liked it. And even if she wasn't willing she was his property to do with as he wanted. She repeatedly stands up to the men and, it seems deliberitely, weakens Drogos position as khal with every word she says.

2. Almost being killed is not a sacrifice. She should have listened to the dothraki and never let the maegi touch her husband, because now she lost a son as well.

3. Are you saying you wouldn't come up with a plan before attacking an enemy? You'd just invite the men and try to convince them without money, being outnumbered? It was a risky plan at best and only succeeded because Daario was hot for her.

4. If that happens I hope GRRM is actually hit by that bus he's always ranting about.

[Littlefinger87]

1. You're right. In the books she isn't raped. She's just a thirteen year old girl who was married off to a significantly older man. Oh wait... that is rape whether it is consensual or not. It's true in the book, Dany does consent because Drogo actually tries to woo her physically. Given that she was living under Dohraki law at the time and the Khal is the arbiter of justice, it would be impossible for Dany to actually claim rape. No one would care. Under our laws it is rape. In the series it's pretty obvious that the first night is actually a rape scene. but to each their own whether to like book or series Dany better for this particular wrinkle.

2. Those are two separate things: almost getting killed, and sacrificing something important (Khal Drogo, Rhaego). As the Khal and Rhaego were both about to die (if you believe the maegi/Jorah Mormont) she would have lost at least Khal Drogo and birthed a deformed son with wings and a tail if I remember correctly.

3. No, I'm not saying that. I am saying that the plan was all Dany's. And whether it was risky or not, it worked. So give credit where it's due. Luck is a part of war just as it is a part of life. The bold make use of it to augment their already solid strategies as dany did in this case. She had the option of distrusting Daario, but she believed the killing of his two comrades sufficient to warrant her trust. And her trust was rewarded. She would have won the battle even without Daario although she might take a few more casualties.

4. What's so troubling with a Targaryen victory? the story begins with Robert Baratheon and Tywin Lannister nearly destroying their entire family. It would make literary and symbolic sense for Dany to restore not just her family, but old Valyria as the Mother of Dragons.

[Mikail Mengsk]

She successfully changes the mind of one of the greatest warriors in Essos by herself (Cersei herself would be impressed).

Uhm, no. Khal Drogo changes his mind on his own, driven by the rage of seeing his wife threatened by Westeros's assassins. It's more a matter of "you can't mess with MY wife" than "I'll invade westeros because my wife said so".

You're right. In the books she isn't raped. She's just a thirteen year old girl who was married off to a significantly older man. Oh wait... that is rape whether it is consensual or not.

Uhm, no. You better remind yourself that this is a "medieval" universe, when rules about women's rights and generally speaking culture was very different from ours. Our laws means nothing in Westeros, otherwise all becomes impossible/unrealistic.


I somewhat agree with the rest.

[Dragus]

I'll have to take great pains to resist putting on the dreaded "hipster" glasses and allowing all of the hate to further solidify her as my favorite. With enough caffeine, I shall prevail.

[Littlefinger87]

Ori-
In my mind Dany freed the slaves of Astapor, Yunkai and Meereen for three reasons.
A) It was the right thing to do. She saw the suffering of the slaves that sheer barbarity of the slavers and made in your own words a moral choice.
2) Because she had the power to do something about it. After she has the Unsullied at her command she finally could begin to right the wrongs she saw.
D).Because freeing the slaves gave her a massive following of people that she could use to further her goals, whatever they may be. Without the freed slaves she wouldn't have had the manpower or the knowledge to build siege engines and open Meereen. If she had encountered a forest, maybe she could have built ships enough to sail he host to Westeros, but alas trees are scarce in that part of Essos.

After she took Astapor she had tens of thousands of both freed slaves and soldiers at her command. She had no means of transportation for all those people. Would you in her place watch them die by the thousands rather than take Meereen? And after Meereen her numbers swelled to over a hundred thousand. Would you take the Unsullied, Brazen Beasts and your two sellsword companies and march through dangerous territory? Meereen had a small fleet of ships but most abandoned the city before Dany sacked it. You talk about going to Westeros like that's a viable option for her with no downside. The long march would kill more of her people than the Red Waste. At least Meereen gives her the protection of high walls.

Even if Dany turns away from her true self in chaining the dragons, it still is the prudent move to not unleash them unless at the utmost urgent need. They are dragons, one of which killed a young girl that she ruled over. It was her fault. Dany is directly responsible for that child's death. She meant to rule Meereen. How long would she continue to be a queen if she allowed dragons to poach children for their meals. Viserion and Rhaegal were still too young to win battles for her when they were first chained. Then they grew to be too wild to trust them outside their pyramid prison. There was no telling if they would attack friend from foe. all she knew for sure is they wouldn't attack her... how to communicate whom to attack without a dragonhorn seems to be the thing keeping those dragons in that pyramid.

Even if she loosed the dragons on the slavers ships why would that be the smart move? What if they followed Drogon and didn't come back? What if the Slavers shot one down? What if the maesters of Oldtown are around Meereen already with dragonpoison? We all know she can't win the Seven Kingdoms without dragons or Unsullied plus lots of alliances (Dorne, Aegon/Connington). And the latter will not help her as much as dragons will when fighting the Others. If she attacks Yunkai with dragons she risks her dragons. If she attack with Unsullied she risks her Unsullied. By remaining in Meereen she has allowed her enemies to surround her yes, but they are in a far weaker position than they were at the start of the siege. The pale mare rides through their ranks and the Second Sons and the Tattered Prince may both turn their cloaks for Dany.

Meanwhile, Dany is off to get her own khalazar presumably and rush back to Meereen where she will find at long last ..... ships. Yay! Thank you Greyjoys for finally doing something useful for once in the entire series. Even if it came from Euron's scheme to rob his brother of the Seastone chair, the Iron fleet finally gives Dany the viable option to go to Westeros. If she doesn't go after the battle of Meereen, I'm right there with you in disliking Dany's strategic thinking and her character. She seems constricted by Quaithe's prophecy (to West I must go east).

You are right, she doesn't know how to use her dragons but is that so unlikely? They are vicious beasts that have been extinct for what three centuries? She has no dragon horn....yet. It'd be like trying to control a T-rex in a zoo.

Why do you think Essos would care what happened is Westeros? Can the White Walkers swim? Can they build ships? Will Winter cross the Narrow Sea. Some sects like the red priests would care, but all of Ghis could give three farts for Westeros. The Nine Free cities too. Why should they send men and material to fight the dead unless they themselves are threatened? the only way they join the fight is if (of course she will) Dany wins the battle of Meereen. What I'm most troubled about that battle is the 50 elephants and the New Ghis legions of Unsullied. I think they have four legions to Dany's one. The dragons, khalazar, Iron Fleet, and the free company defections will probably turn the tide.

[ccllnply]

Don't mean to sound like an arrogant ass, I'll consider replying to your post when you change it so that:

A) You correct the inaccuracies.
2) Remove the parts that you just plain made up.
D) Stop showing a lack of understanding for the books to prove your point.

[Littlefinger87]

cclnply: Are you talking to me? If you're not let the intended person of your message know.

Care to explain where are the inaccuracies, parts I made up, and my lack of understanding. You are being vague. I was quite specific both with my speculations and my facts from the books. My sentences that begin with "What if" are speculations not facts from the book, but they are based on facts from the book. Outside Meereen right now there are six trebuchets used built primarily to assault the walls of Meereen but could be used to take out a small dragon. We do know that the last dragons died out not because they were slain but because they were poisoned by the maesters of Oldtown. We do know that one maester from Oldtown has already been dispatched to help Dany,, but that doesn't preclude other maesters from seeking the dragons harm. We know that Viserion and Rhaegal actually remain in the city after Quentin releases them, but Dany didn't know that. They could have followed Drogon meaning she would have no dragons instead of two captive dragons and a wildcard.

As we leave Dany she is currently with Khal Jhaqo with Drogon presumably to change his mind on attacking Meereen. Dothraki follow strength. Is there anything stronger in the world of ASOIF than a dragon?

The two legions of Unsullied from New Ghis and the two legions of Ghiscari are not given actual numbers so it is unclear how much of an advantage they give to the Yunkai'i army I admit. They still compose a significant force which must be taken into account.

Textual References.

Dany turned to gaze out over her city. Beyond her walls the yellow tents of the Yunkai'i stood in orderly rows beside the sea, protected by the ditches their slaves had dug for them. Two iron legions out of New Ghis, trained and armed in the same fashion as Unsullied, were encamped across the river to the north. Two more Ghiscari legions had made campt to the east, chking off the road to the Khyzai Pass.

Each of the four free companies serving Yunkai had sent its commander. The Windblown were represented by ... the Tattered Prince, the Long Lances by Gylo Rhegan... Bloodbeard from the Company of the Cat... and Brown Ben Plumm of the Second Sons.
"The Yunkai'i grow weaker as well. The bloody flux has taken hold amongst the Tolosi, it is said, and spread across the river the third Ghiscari legion." Dany chapter DWD

[ccllnply]

cclnply: Are you talking to me? If you're not let the intended person of your message know.

I'm quite hungover so I'll keep this short as possible

And after Meereen her numbers swelled to over a hundred thousand.

This is just made up. Perhaps you made it up with an educated guess, but you still made it up. The size of Dany's army is never directly stated and personally I think that's very overestimated. For one, that would mean Dany is holding out in Meeran with 100,000 troops (King's Landing is estimated to hold around 500,000) plus the city's population. Since food and water aren't really a major issue in Meeran during the siege, I find it hard to believe that those are the numbers inside the walls.

Also, since the armies outside are supposedly bigger than those inside the walls, that means that the battle of Meeran is going to consist of 200,000 at the very least, basically the entire manpower of several, if not all the Seven Kingdoms. Throw in the Ironborn arriving and that's just over the top

We do know that the last dragons died out not because they were slain but because they were poisoned by the maesters of Oldtown.

This is an inaccuracy. We DO NOT KNOW that the maesters poisoned the dragons, that's the whole point

How do you propose you tame a dragon?

Ehm, maybe in the same way that the Targaryens have been taming them for the last 300 years?

I was going to continue, but now I'm bored

[beckyolt]

Was discussing on the IMDB boards, what if Dany decided to stay in East and not become queen of Westeros.


That raises some really interesting thoughts, since truth is that, deep within, Westeros means nothing to Daenerys. She only sets the Iron Throne as an objective because Viserys had been brainwashing her since an young age for that. For example. Doesn't she remembers an occasion, when she was like 11 or 12, she commented to Viserys how good it would be to become a sailor and travel throughout the world ? Or how , unlike the show, in the House of the Undying she doesn't see the Iron Throne, but the house with the red door in Braavos?


Like a guy in the board said:

Dany is still chasing Viserys' ghosts. It was never HER dream to reclaim the Iron Throne in her family's name. It was the dream of her half-mad brother, and abandoning that dream is the last step she needs to take in order to become her own person.

She has a far nobler cause to fight in the ONLY land she's ever been able to call home. Her destiny is much bigger than sitting on some ugly iron chair.

She will aid Westeros in their war against Winter, but she will return to her true home to rule as the Queen of a united Essos.

Bad writing would be for her to smash the slave trade, breaking hundreds of years of Essosi operations, throwing the Free Cities into chaos and war, and then peacing out to go sit the Iron Throne of a country she's never been able to call home.

THAT would be stupid.

Her choosing not to take the Iron Throne but instead head back to Essos to rule her true homeland and usher them into a united future without slavery and cruelty, then it will bring her entire story arc full circle. A queen that refused the crown of her ancestors in order to accept the one of a new world seems a very fitting end to her story.

[Littlefinger87]

beckyolt: Why stop at a united Essos? With Dorne and Aegon she could rule a United Westeros and Essos. Dragons may be the only thing that can kill the spiders that come in the Long Night.