Ptolemy won't ever accept a cease fire!?

[katsusand]

Hello,

I'm using Saba, conquered Arabia, at some point, Carthage offered me an alliance, I intended to refuse, but I accidentally accepted, I said "Uhh so what? I'll break the alliance next turn"... But before I noticed, I was in a war with Ptolemy... I believe because Carthage was in war with them and since I allied myself with them I became their enemy as well.

In any case, Ptolemy is right on my borders, I don't want to fight them as I need to develop my faction first..

I break my alliance with Carthage, I ask Ptolemy for a cease fire.

They refuse.

I give them large amount of single payment and tribute with the cease fire.

They refuse.

I offer them settlements.

They refuse.

I create a huge army (which had a pretty bad effect on my economy mind you), conquer 4 of their cities, then ask for a Cease-fire in return they get their cities back.

They refuse.



I just give up... I can't have peace with these guys, can anyone figure out how to get a cease fire working with these? My armies up keep is hurting my economy thanks to this war.

[atheniandp]

Welcome to the experience of horrible RTW diplomacy -- or lack of, thereof. I believe there's a forced diplomacy mod that can be applied to EB. It exists in several other mods I've played.


I think I found a link to it:
http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...lomacy-Minimod

[Boriak]

I don't leave home without it.

[icenii]

Had exactly the same situation as Katsusand but playing as Aedui and my problem was with Rome,so if i install this ForceDiplomacy mod how much of an improvement over the current AI diplomacy will i experience,taking Katsusands experience as an example would i just need to offer ceasefire and have a reasonable chance of having it accepted or would i likely need to sweeten the deal with trade rights/map info/single payment large or small or regular tribute or even giving back conquered citys.

[BroskiDerpman]

Well, it's called force diplomacy....So you can force the ai to accept your demands as long as it has it. (Don't abuse force diplomacy, it won't be that fun anymore)

EDIT: Found a link for the Force Diplomacy http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showth...lomacy-Minimod

[smoesville]

Force diplomacy won't always work (well it will really). What i mean is; if you force a cease fire then the next turn they may well attack you again. Such is the beauty and majesty that is RTW Ai.