Kurdistan RISES ???(A rather dangerous sitaution in the Area between Syria Turkey and Iraq)

[jo the greek]

Turkey: Kurdish Rebels Attacked

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Published: August 2, 2012

Turkish warplanes and attack helicopters struck Kurdish rebel positions on Thursday in a major clash in a rugged area near Turkey’s borders with Iraq and Iran, an official said Thursday. The official, Sedat Tore, the mayor of the Turkish town of Semdinli, said he had seen the aircraft flying toward Mount Goman on bombing missions. Mr. Tore said Turkish troops and Kurdish rebels had been clashing in the area for about two weeks. The governor’s office said at least two soldiers had been killed and 14 wounded. News reports said at least 37 rebels had been killed, but the authorities did not give a casualty figure for the rebels.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/03/wo...cked.html?_r=1
Southeastern town first hit by quake, then PKK attack



Beytüşşebap residents left their homes in panic as a quake hit the southeastern district yesterday night, only to flee back into their homes as militants launched an attack on a nearby outpost.

A 5.3-magnitude quake hit the southeastern province of Şırnak at 11:57 p.m. The quake's epicenter was reported to be the Ortabağ village in the town of Uludere.

The quake was felt in Şırnak's Beytüşşebap district as well, prompting town locals to exit their homes in panic. The locals ran back into their homes in fear moments later, as suspected militants from the outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) launched an attack on a military outpost overlooking the town.

A firefight erupted as Turkish soldiers returned fire. The clashes were caught on camera, with footage showing tracer rounds streaking in the dark as the two sides exchanged gunfire. Several explosions were also seen in the footage. Reports did not mention if anyone was killed or wounded in the clashes, which lasted for about 20 minutes.

Şırnak Gov. Vahdettin Özkan made a statement regarding the earthquake, saying no reports of injury or damage were immediately available. He said the officials were working to prepare a full damage assessment.

The Turkish Red Crescent, meanwhile, said they had put their branches and logistics centers close to the quake area on alert. Red Crescent teams were sent into the quake zone to assess the damage and the needs of quake victims.

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/sou...&NewsCatID=341


Turkish minister's Kirkuk visit infuriates Iraq

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp...b446b69f9b.791

Turkey, Iraq agree to act against Kurdish rebels in Syria


http://www.emirates247.com/news/regi...08-02-1.469906





I think steam is massing and soon or later we will have another explosion in the area Kurds controlling Syrian in the border of Iraq Kurdish rebels attacking Turkish cities .

Erdogan with his ottomanic dreams i think must be in great dilema attack Syrian Kurds when he has selfproclaimed as protector of muslims and pretending he cares about Syrian Refugees

How he will balance his antifatic policy if he removes Asad the he risks Syria to fall in pieces and some pieces will be Kurdish. Davotoglu visit in Kirkuk is even more strange

A total mess

[motiv-8]

So, like, a rather dangerous situation in Kurdistan then?

[jo the greek]

So, like, a rather dangerous situation in Kurdistan then?

Kurdistan rises

While in Israel politicians are smart enough to want Asad on power or not intervene
and
While in Greece

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/_w...08/2012_455747

[Erebus Pasha]

Kurdistan rises? What? More like more of the same between the Turkish military and the PKK along Turkey's borders with Iran and Iraq.

And what's all this about Erdogan having 'Ottomanic' dreams and wanting to remove Assad?

[jo the greek]

Kurdistan rises? What? More like more of the same between the Turkish military and the PKK along Turkey's borders with Iran and Iraq.

And what's all this about Erdogan having 'Ottomanic' dreams and wanting to remove Assad?

I mean isnt Erdogan the Protector of MUSLIMS

if i am not wrong the Syrian opposition has support from Turkey so Erdogan through his sultanic dreams

is in reallity messing Turkey

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...t=va&aid=32163

http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-e...s-say-1.454107

So there is a chance if its true maybe Turkey is arming Kurdish REbels

[Erebus Pasha]

I mean isnt Erdogan the Protector of MUSLIMS

if i am not wrong the Syrian opposition has support from Turkey so Erdogan through his sultanic dreams

is in reallity messing Turkey

'Sultanic Dreams'? Supporting the Syrian opposition doesn't mean that Erdogan is the reincarnation of Selim I Yavuz and wants to embark on the conquest of Syria.

[jo the greek]

'Sultanic Dreams'? Supporting the Syrian opposition doesn't mean that Erdogan is the reincarnation of Selim I Yavuz and wants to embark on the conquest of Syria.

Its know that Erdogan is inspired from Ottoman empire and he and his ministers

are considered to be new ottomanist Essentially its a course politics wanting to Turkey to use its religious and historic ties with other Countries in order to expand their economic militairy influence

In part of that logic Erdogan even asked Greeks from Constantinople to Return (most of them had or have great economic base still)

[Erebus Pasha]

Its know that Erdogan is inspired from Ottoman empire and he and his ministers

are considered to be new ottomanist Essentially its a course politics wanting to Turkey to use its religious and historic ties with other Countries in order to expand their economic militairy influence

In part of that logic Erdogan even asked Greeks from Constantinople to Return (most of them had or have great economic base still)

Like I stated in my VM to you, attempting to improve diplomatic and economic ties with neighbouring countries doesn't necessarily mean that Turkey is seeking to dominate them. Yes Turkey has become a regional power and has grown increasingly confident and assertive, but this doesn't mean that we have the second coming of the Ottoman Empire on our hands.

[Armenum]

I see the Kurds striking a deal with the rebels, in exchange for supporting rebels' cause, the future Syrian state will grant Kurds autonomy like the Kurds of Iraq have. I highly doubt they'd be able to become an independent state, especially with Turkey breathing down their necks.

[Sarissofoi]

I see the Kurds striking a deal with the rebels, in exchange for supporting rebels' cause, the future Syrian state will grant Kurds autonomy like the Kurds of Iraq have. I highly doubt they'd be able to become an independent state, especially with Turkey breathing down their necks.

Assad already struck deal with Kurdish factions and it benefit more Kurds than deal with supported by Turkey rebels.
Also the Turkey is a reason why rebels wont gain a support of Kurds unless Assad regime will start falling apart and things will be done.

[PointOfViewGun]

Himalayas rises probably faster than Turkish Kurdistan does.

Also, the low quality of the opening post must be awarded...

[hellheaven1987]

I don't see the situation change a lot, although Turkish military continues proving itself is a shame for not able to win the war.

[Menelik_I]

I don't see the situation change a lot, although Turkish military continues proving itself is a shame for not able to win the war.

kind of hard winning a war when you jail most of your generals on fake charges ....

[hellheaven1987]

kind of hard winning a war when you jail most of your generals on fake charges ....

[jo the greek]

kind of hard winning a war when you jail most of your generals on fake charges ....

i dont know about that how will the Generals deal that


and do not forget that kemalist enforced terribles policies vs Kurds that may armed the hands of modern kurds rebels

[Kitsunegari]

Greater Kurdistan is inevitable

[PointOfViewGun]

Greater Kurdistan is inevitable

How?

[jo the greek]

Greater Kurdistan is inevitable

or erdogan Accepts the Creation of a Kurdistan in exchange for Kirkuk Area

[Armenum]

Greater Kurdistan is inevitable

Funny how they also want a sliver of Armenia.....Yezdi Kurds are very happy being part of Armenia.

[Noobio]

It's about time, the oppressed Kurdish nation (already stated as present in the area, since before Chirst. --> read Xenofon's Anabasis..) took what is rightfuly theirs...

A nation-state of their own!

Let's just hope, things will go for the better for them and they will eventually be granted their rightful claim...