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    Icon5 HRE declares war on Papal States

    I wanted a long campaign with Savage AI, Grim IV, Real Recruitment and Longer Assimilation.
    Played as HRE with VH/M and a perfect relation + alliance with the papal_states. With the intention that I can declare war against every Christian nation
    So I changed the data/world/maps/campaign/imperal_campaign/descr_strat:

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    faction_standings venice, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings venice, -0.20 milan
    faction_standings venice, -0.40 hre, hungary
    faction_standings venice, -0.50 byzantium
    faction_standings venice, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings sicily, 0.60 milan
    faction_standings sicily, 0.40 hre
    faction_standings sicily, 0.20 portugal, papal_states
    faction_standings sicily, -0.40 egypt, moors, byzantium, aragon
    faction_standings sicily, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings milan, 0.60 sicily
    faction_standings milan, 0.40 france
    faction_standings milan, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings milan, -0.20 venice
    faction_standings milan, -0.60 hre
    faction_standings milan, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings papal_states, 0.40 jerusalem
    faction_standings papal_states, 0.20 poland, hungary, england, teutonic_order, sicily, milan, venice
    faction_standings papal_states, -0.60 slave
    faction_standings papal_states, -0.80 turks, moors, egypt
    faction_standings papal_states, 1.00 hre
    faction_standings denmark, 0.60 teutonic_order
    faction_standings denmark, 0.40 norway
    faction_standings denmark, -0.20 russia
    faction_standings denmark, -0.60 hre
    faction_standings denmark, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings egypt, 0.60 moors
    faction_standings egypt, -0.40 sicily
    faction_standings egypt, -0.80 jerusalem, papal_states
    faction_standings egypt, -1.00 slave, mongols, timurids
    faction_standings scotland, 0.90 france
    faction_standings scotland, -0.50 norway
    faction_standings scotland, -0.80 england
    faction_standings scotland, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings cumans, 0.60 lithuania
    faction_standings cumans, -0.40 kwarezm
    faction_standings cumans, -0.80 kievan_rus
    faction_standings cumans, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings mongols, -0.80 hungary, poland
    faction_standings mongols, -1.00 timurids, egypt, slave, kwarezm, byzantium, russia, turks, kievan_rus
    faction_standings turks, 0.60 moors
    faction_standings turks, 0.20 kwarezm
    faction_standings turks, -0.60 jerusalem
    faction_standings turks, -0.80 byzantium, papal_states
    faction_standings turks, -1.00 slave, timurids, mongols
    faction_standings france, 0.90 scotland
    faction_standings france, 0.40 milan
    faction_standings france, -0.20 spain
    faction_standings france, -0.40 aragon
    faction_standings france, -0.50 hre
    faction_standings france, -0.60 england
    faction_standings france, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings hre, 1.00 teutonic_order, papal_states
    faction_standings hre, 0.40 sicily
    faction_standings hre, -0.40 venice
    faction_standings hre, -0.50 france
    faction_standings hre, -0.60 milan, poland, denmark
    faction_standings hre, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings england, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings england, -0.20 norway
    faction_standings england, -0.60 france
    faction_standings england, -0.80 scotland
    faction_standings england, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings portugal, 0.80 aragon
    faction_standings portugal, 0.60 spain
    faction_standings portugal, 0.20 sicily
    faction_standings portugal, -0.90 moors
    faction_standings portugal, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings poland, 0.80 hungary
    faction_standings poland, 0.40 lithuania
    faction_standings poland, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings poland, -0.40 russia
    faction_standings poland, -0.60 hre
    faction_standings poland, -0.80 mongols
    faction_standings poland, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings byzantium, 0.60 norway
    faction_standings byzantium, 0.40 russia, kievan_rus
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.20 hungary, timurids
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.40 sicily
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.50 venice
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.80 turks
    faction_standings byzantium, -1.00 slave, mongols
    faction_standings moors, 0.60 egypt, turks
    faction_standings moors, -0.40 sicily
    faction_standings moors, -0.80 papal_states, aragon
    faction_standings moors, -0.90 portugal, spain
    faction_standings moors, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings russia, 0.60 lithuania
    faction_standings russia, 0.40 byzantium
    faction_standings russia, 0.20 kievan_rus
    faction_standings russia, -0.20 denmark
    faction_standings russia, -0.40 poland, teutonic_order
    faction_standings russia, -1.00 slave, mongols
    faction_standings spain, 0.60 portugal
    faction_standings spain, -0.20 france
    faction_standings spain, -0.90 moors
    faction_standings spain, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings hungary, 0.80 poland
    faction_standings hungary, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings hungary, -0.20 byzantium
    faction_standings hungary, -0.40 venice
    faction_standings hungary, -0.80 mongols
    faction_standings hungary, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings aragon, 0.80 portugal
    faction_standings aragon, -0.40 sicily, france
    faction_standings aragon, -0.80 moors
    faction_standings aragon, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings lithuania, 0.60 cumans, russia
    faction_standings lithuania, 0.40 poland
    faction_standings lithuania, -0.80 teutonic_order
    faction_standings lithuania, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings kievan_rus, 0.40 byzantium
    faction_standings kievan_rus, 0.20 russia
    faction_standings kievan_rus, -0.80 cumans
    faction_standings kievan_rus, -1.00 slave, mongols
    faction_standings teutonic_order, 1.00 hre
    faction_standings teutonic_order, 0.60 denmark
    faction_standings teutonic_order, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings teutonic_order, -0.40 russia
    faction_standings teutonic_order, -0.80 lithuania
    faction_standings teutonic_order, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings timurids, -0.20 byzantium
    faction_standings timurids, -1.00 kwarezm, slave, egypt, mongols, turks
    faction_standings norway, 0.60 byzantium
    faction_standings norway, 0.40 denmark
    faction_standings norway, -0.20 england
    faction_standings norway, -0.50 scotland
    faction_standings norway, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings jerusalem, 0.40 papal_states
    faction_standings jerusalem, -0.60 turks
    faction_standings jerusalem, -0.80 egypt
    faction_standings jerusalem, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings kwarezm, 0.20 turks
    faction_standings kwarezm, -0.40 cumans
    faction_standings kwarezm, -1.00 mongols, slave, timurids
    faction_standings slave, -0.60 papal_states
    faction_standings slave, -1.00 hungary, lithuania, aragon, russia, moors, spain, jerusalem, norway, byzantium, kwarezm, teutonic_order, kievan_rus, timurids, egypt, denmark, cumans, scotland, sicily, poland, milan, england, hre, venice, portugal, turks, mongols, france

    faction_relationships venice, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships sicily, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships milan, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships papal_states, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships papal_states, allied_with hre
    faction_relationships denmark, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships egypt, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships scotland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships cumans, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships mongols, at_war_with kwarezm, slave
    faction_relationships turks, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships france, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships hre, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships hre, allied_with papal_states
    faction_relationships england, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships portugal, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships poland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships byzantium, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships moors, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships russia, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships spain, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships hungary, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships aragon, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships lithuania, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships kievan_rus, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships teutonic_order, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships timurids, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships norway, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships jerusalem, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships kwarezm, at_war_with slave, mongols
    faction_relationships slave, at_war_with hungary, spain, aragon, byzantium, lithuania, russia, moors, jerusalem, norway, venice, kwarezm, teutonic_order, kievan_rus, timurids, denmark, papal_states, scotland, egypt, sicily, poland, milan, hre, france, portugal, england, mongols, cumans, turks


    But when I play the HRE they break the alliance with the pope and declares war..
    And if I play another faction then the HRE don't break the alliance

  2. #2

    Default Re: HRE declares war on Papal States

    Try starting the game with HRE and the easiest difficulty.
    Afaik any game as human HRE with difficulty H or VH results in war with the pope due to a trigger in the campaign script.
    Once confirmed check the campaign script and remove said trigger.

  3. #3

    Default Re: HRE declares war on Papal States

    Ah thanks!

    I found it, but I tried to play the campaign with war against the pope and my zeal level was low. How can I improve the zeal level?

  4. #4

    Default Re: HRE declares war on Papal States

    Have fewer settlements/lose more battles. The larger your empire is, the lower your zeal. Larger factions like HRE would start with lower zeal than, say, Portugal/Scotland/etc.


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