Campaign battle AI is a coward????

[Dragonators]

Hi guys, I am not a much experienced TW player. In campaign, when I am under siege the AI leaves their siege equipments(not talking about those ballistas) , go to the end of the battle map and so not even attack . But whenever I play a battle at a custom mod its all fine and normal. I have tested all the AI options at the setup but the results are same. Please, an Immediate solution is required.(sorry for my bad English)

[Ichon]

Are you attacking the AI that laid siege to you? That sounds like a sally battle where such action is normal. If AI is laying siege and then attacking during its own turn and then dropping equipment that is something I have never seen.

[Dragonators]

Are you attacking the AI that laid siege to you? That sounds like a sally battle where such action is normal. If AI is laying siege and then attacking during its own turn and then dropping equipment that is something I have never seen.

Yeah, I am attacking the AI that laid siege to me. And they drop their siege equipments and run to the end of the battle and they do not even attack. Is that thing bound to happen? Anyway I hate it.

[Daddl]

Then this is the normal way the AI behaves. Even if they lay siege to one of your towns, you are attacking them. So why should they come to you?

[Logios]

You are the official attacker in such battles so you have to take the initiative. If you have a noble/general unit or other heavy cavalry you should attack while the enemies have their backs turned. While you do that position the rest of your garrison around the abandoned siege equipment.
Alternatively you can put archers on the walls and make "gambit" attacks with weak units to make the enemies chase them back to your walls.
If you just wait then the result will be a draw, and the siege will not be lifted.

[The Kybrothilian]

If you want to have the AI attack your walls, you will have to wait until the AI starts the attack themselves. If you sally, they will retreat farther (wouldn't you do the same if you're besieging an AI town and they sally?)

[Viperidae]

This might be useful, in fact. If you are under siege by a far superior force which would win an assault yet lacks ranged siege, you can sally, wait for them to retreat and the destroy their rams. This means they can't assault until the next turn. Does this work?

[Logios]

This might be useful, in fact. If you are under siege by a far superior force which would win an assault yet lacks ranged siege, you can sally, wait for them to retreat and the destroy their rams. This means they can't assault until the next turn. Does this work?

I have never managed to inflict any damage to rams or siege towers when sallying, but if you kill catapult or trebuchet crews (falling behind the other troops when present) they at least usually stay dead. Waiting for the draw to be declared then is pretty boring.

[Astarte]

You can just pull all your forces back to city/castle and end battle. Much faster and nicer than waiting and same result

[Viperidae]

I have never managed to inflict any damage to rams or siege towers when sallying, but if you kill catapult or trebuchet crews (falling behind the other troops when present) they at least usually stay dead. Waiting for the draw to be declared then is pretty boring.

Well, you can just end the battle with all your units inside to get a draw. I really wish you could "retreat" in a similar manner from ordinary battles, as the current system means you can't harass the enemy.

[Logios]

You can just pull all your forces back to city/castle and end battle. Much faster and nicer than waiting and same result

Well, you can just end the battle with all your units inside to get a draw. I really wish you could "retreat" in a similar manner from ordinary battles, as the current system means you can't harass the enemy.

You learn something new everyday, I suppose. Sallying with assistance is one of my fav. tactics, and I never tried doing it like that. Hmm, must try, thanks for the tip you guys.

[Dragonators]

Anyways I feel this thing annoying. Could I do something to remove this thing? I liked the vanilla campaign battle AI . But I hate this. I don't think so that this feature is historically accurate or authentic

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Anyways I feel this thing annoying. Could I do something to remove this thing? I liked the vanilla campaign battle AI . But I hate this. I don't think so that this feature is historically accurate or authentic

I think the vanilla AI also did just that when you sallied, what is the point for them to attack your walls if you are the one that is coming out of the gate and attacking?

In real life, i doubt you would start attacking instantly when you saw your enemies coming out of their castle to fight you on equal ground, you would want to get then as far from the castle as possible so they cant just run back in.

Anyway, if you really dont like how the sally fort system works, attack the army that is sieging you from the back with anythis, even a single unit will be good enough, the army from the castle will come as support, and the battle will take place in a regular outdoors map, just remember to set the support armies as player controlled, not AI controlled.

[miniwally]

Anyways I feel this thing annoying. Could I do something to remove this thing? I liked the vanilla campaign battle AI . But I hate this. I don't think so that this feature is historically accurate or authentic

Why don't you like it?

[Dragonators]

Then I myself will modify the AI. Which file I need to modify so I could get rid of this madness.

Also, SO u guys don't have any problem? you guys do not hate his?

I think the vanilla AI also did just that when you sallied, what is the point for them to attack your walls if you are the one that is coming out of the gate and attacking?

No, I just played the vanilla game and this sort of madness is not there. Also if they, they should not run to the end of the battle map like a stupid. If they do, they must attack us too but why run? This is getting too much boring and I am actually getting hesitant to play SS6.4

[tudor93]

Which file I need to modify so I could get rid of this madness.

Madness !?

Also, SO u guys don't have any problem? you guys do not hate his?

Lol, why would we ? It perfectly makes sense to be this way. If you would like for the AI to come to why don't you wait another turn or maybe 2 (depending on how mych siege equipment he builds) for him to assault your walls ?
No offense man, but you should stop whining so much; the AI is already retarded and you can beat the crap out of him (yes, even if you are a beginner); you want to give him even more disadvantages ?!

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

No offense man, but you should stop whining so much; the AI is already retarded and you can beat the crap out of him (yes, even if you are a beginner); you want to give him even more disadvantages ?!

My thoughts exactly, the AI is bad already, why make it even worse, i will just accept my bad decisions sometimes, just for the sake of more challenge, i cant be winning with losing 20 men and killing 250 all the time. sometimes you have to lose more.

[miniwally]

My thoughts exactly, the AI is bad already, why make it even worse, i will just accept my bad decisions sometimes, just for the sake of more challenge, i cant be winning with losing 20 men and killing 250 all the time. sometimes you have to lose more.

Retreating to the back of the map is advantageous to the AI not disadvantageous...

[Kaidonni]

Retreating to the back of the map is advantageous to the AI not disadvantageous...

And the idea is that stopping the AI from doing this simply hands the Human player yet another advantage, when the Human player has plenty of advantage no matter what.

[Vissewalde rex de Gerzika]

Retreating to the back of the map is advantageous to the AI not disadvantageous...

Thats exactly what i was saying, why would you want to make it even easier for yourself? Its easy enough already.