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    Default Hostility towards Israel among Egyptians (Elite and common man)



    In the video above is the proof that is the most peaceful country of the middle east, and that the common people of Egypt have no willingness to scrap the peace with Israel because of some mad adventurism.

    Sure the challenges between are great, especially the Palestinian question, but no creepy denial of the Holocaust or irrational murderous impulse on the sight of Jews will make this happen. If normal people are this sane, we could expect the Muslim Brotherhood to be just angels, of the moderate sorts.

    This video of interview of artists by an Israeli TV shows how calm and rational are those people, especially since they would suffer public condemnation if they assaulted an Israeli TV.

    END OF SARCASM.

    The video above show a TV prank gone wrong, as various Egyptian Artists are fooled into believe that they are being interviewed by an Israeli TV station and turn violent to the point of assaulting the false producer.

    How widespread is this sentiment of hatred and hostility towards Israel among the Egyptian people, normal and elite people ?

    EDIT : OP clarified at request of Wilders.
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    Default Re: The proof that Egypt is a peaceful country

    What's your point? I don't see what you're getting at.
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    Default Re: The proof that Egypt is a peaceful country

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Zoidberg View Post
    What's your point? I don't see what you're getting at.
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    How widespread is this sentiment of peace and fraternity towards Israel among the Egyptian people ?
    « Le courage est toujours quelque chose de saint, un jugement divin entre deux idées. Défendre notre cause de plus en plus vigoureusement est conforme à la nature humaine. Notre suprême raison d’être est donc de lutter ; on ne possède vraiment que ce qu’on acquiert en combattant. »Ernst Jünger
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    Default Re: The proof that Egypt is a peaceful country

    Ick, bad writing. Starting an Op with sarcasm is always abad move as it can simply be dismissed as a straw man. For example, as someone who has a great deal of empathy for Egyptians and their ugly political predicament, I would never claim that it is a very peaceful country, or that they (haha) are closely bound allies of Israel.

    If you want to make an argument you really are best served by stating your thesis clearly.

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    Well, what do you expect. Both the more or less secular dictators and the Islamist governments of the region are using Israel as a scapegoat to detract from their own failures. The whole anti-Israel stance of the IRI is basically that.
    Now combine this with latent anti-Judaism in Islam and Christianity, and you see how decades of brainwashing tend to leave their mark on the population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    Well, what do you expect. Both the more or less secular dictators and the Islamist governments of the region are using Israel as a scapegoat to detract from their own failures. The whole anti-Israel stance of the IRI is basically that.
    Now combine this with latent anti-Judaism in Islam and Christianity, and you see how decades of brainwashing tend to leave their mark on the population.
    I think you forget to mention Israel is not doing anything to improve its public image and continue acting as an international criminal scum in same level as Iran.
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    I think you forget to mention Israel is not doing anything to improve its public image and continue acting as an international criminal scum in same level as Iran.
    What I forgot to add is that Israel didn't start this and that whatever Israel's business with Palestinian or other Arabs is, it doesn't concern Iran. Just as Hungary or Poland, heck even Germany or France, didn't have any business in Northern Ireland, and they acknowledged that by staying out of the mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by athanaric View Post
    What I forgot to add is that Israel didn't start this and that whatever Israel's business with Palestinian or other Arabs is, it doesn't concern Iran. Just as Hungary or Poland, heck even Germany or France, didn't have any business in Northern Ireland, and they acknowledged that by staying out of the mess.
    Now you spoke like Israel's colonization of West Bank and violating international laws is because someone forces Israel to do that...
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    Well they invaded their country and occupied the Sinaï, lots of reasons for bad blood without even having to mention the Palestinian issue.
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    I fail to understand why hostility towards Israel is a bad thing.

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    I fail to understand why hostility towards Israel is a bad thing.
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    I fail to understand why hostility towards Israel is a bad thing.
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    I fail to understand why hostility towards Israel is a bad thing.
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    Aside from the statement being a non-sequitur dubiously extracted from the one-shot article cited, is this sort of like how you blame the equally amorphous "Left" for every problem you have? I'd think you'd be great friends with people you share common standards and political and rhetorical strategies with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blaze86420 View Post
    I fail to understand why hostility towards Israel is a bad thing.
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