What exactly means "historical twist" in Egypt

[Breoghan]

I wonder what means the wors used by Jack Lusted in the last interview when he said, referring to the Egypt faction, that it will be a "historical twist" betweeen the Ptolemies and the "traditional" egypt. To me it would have two alternatives:

1. CA will make te egypt faction as a remix between the macedonians and the mummie returns-pharaoh shaped egyptians of Rome 1 (i hope they don't).

2. CA will pay attention to the historical research and reflect it making ptolemaic egypt as a intercultural country ruled by an hellenistic elite among the majority of egiptians wich filled the ranks of auxiliary troops (machimoi), shaped in jellenistic fashion but with logical regional variations (in example, their armour was made of linus, etc...)

I have to confess that i'm very scared about it...

[Lord Tomyris]

If we see Egyptian chariots, then we know our doom approaches.

[Lucian Venatus]

If we see Egyptian chariots, then we know our doom approaches.

If I saw any chariots, I knew that I would have to command the battle personally to win, didn't matter if I outnumbered them 10 to 1. Would still lose automatically. but when I took command of the battle personally I often win. Or make them wish they had never attacked me.

[Hasforth9]

I think they will make it a mix between Macedonian style Phalangites with Native support + chariots and other return of the mummy units.

If they make the Egyptian character cards look like Old Kingdom Pharaohs I'm gonna cry

[Yomamashouse]

It means I'm shedding buckets of man-tears right now.

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Manly tears are being shed here.Have some tissues guys.

[Jungle Rhino]

Oh come on 'Desert Axemen' were the backbone of the Ptolemaic armies we all know that the scholars just haven't found the evidence yet!

[Megalos]

I fear your option #1 will be the case OP.

[Sandraker]

I thought they would've learned their lesson by now. I'm hoping they're just making them have a more regional style rather than an anachronistic one.
If they add "the mummy returns" Egyptians then they'd might as well have Teutonic knights charge at the Romans at Teutoberg forest. It's about the same in terms of historical error.

[Fabricus]

I thought they would've learned their lesson by now. I'm hoping they're just making them have a more regional style rather than an anachronistic one.
If they add "the mummy returns" Egyptians then they'd might as well have Teutonic knights charge at the Romans at Teutoberg forest. It's about the same in terms of historical error.

This.

If they are going to add units from 1000(at least) earlier, then why don't they add viking raiders who can sail into Egypt and burn down Alexandria, Huns to wipe out the Germans, the Macedon can be the Byzantine Empire, I mean come on guys what they heck!?

There is plenty of variety with numbians equiped with Hellenic (or not much equipment at all), if they really go into detail they can show the ethnic differences of Macedonians, Celts, lower + upper Egyptians etc., but nobody has to be outrageously anachronistic.

Messing up Egypt is a real shame since it played such a big role in this time period, what with it being the longest surviving large Hellenistic kingdom, a center of learning in the period.

And at the end, it will still have a Pharoic flavor since Egyptian culture had such a profound influence in the Classical world, when accurate, cities will have temples, there will be obolisks, etc., but nobody should going to be wandering around looking just like King Tut.

If Pharoes is what we all want, how about we encourage them to make a game about Ancient Egypt later down the road, or a mod team could get together?

[John ''True Grit'' Wayne]

Maybe they can have their own marian reform and change units in the middle of the game?Cleopatra better be a character i want to see her beauty for myself

[Red Hue]

Well here is a historic twist for Egypt; Celtic Mercenaries. Or were they just Celtic Regiments by this time.

Ptolemaeor II brought Gauls or Celts from the Balkans some time before 300 BCE and they were still around in the 1st Century BCE.

The first group was about 4000 strong. I don’t know if the later groups were replenished or the descendants of the original band but they were still calling themselves Gauls, though they wrote in Greek.

They seem to have been used as elite shock troops, for the most part. We know they were used at Raphia in 217 BC against the Seleukids, about 14,000 or the 25,000 man Egyptian army were Celts and they crushed the Seleukids.

Might that be the twist?

[bobbin]

I'm hoping it is referring to the possiblity of a native rebellion, which happened in history. Still if the native units end up looking like they did in RTW I think I might die a little bit on the inside.

[Julio-Claudian]

When exactly did he say that?

[Breoghan]

When exactly did he say that?

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...7#post11218747

[dom385]

He said somewhere else that the Egyptians would be a mix of hellenisitc units and native troops. The native troops are probably going to be a bit stereotyped to add some flavour to the faction, since it would be a bit boring if half the world was using very similar hellenistic style units.

[kanzy]

I wouldn't care one way or the other, I will stomp them with my Roamn legions no matter what they look like.

[Asgaroth]

If they make the Egyptian character cards look like Old Kingdom Pharaohs I'm gonna cry

The unit cards should be greek of course. But I think that the ruler of the Ptolemaic Empire was still pharoah and he wear their traditional native clothes but I don't know if he had any makeup though.

Well here is a historic twist for Egypt; Celtic Mercenaries. Or were they just Celtic Regiments by this time.

Mostly Galatians.


I fear the option one.

[Hasforth9]

[QUOTE=Asgaroth;11770277]The unit cards should be greek of course. But I think that the ruler of the Ptolemaic Empire was still pharoah and he wear their traditional native clothes but I don't know if he had any makeup though.

Yeah, they were appointed the son of the gods (Pharaoh) when they ascended the throne.
Makeup for men was pretty common at the time

I'm pretty sure they didn't wear the clothes that the Pharaohs of old we wearing.
Look at coins depicting the Ptolemaic rulers, they don't look anything like the old Pharaohs

[Hasforth9]

The unit cards should be greek of course. But I think that the ruler of the Ptolemaic Empire was still pharoah and he wear their traditional native clothes but I don't know if he had any makeup though.

Yeah, they were appointed the son of the gods (Pharaoh) when they ascended the throne.
Makeup for men was pretty common at the time

I'm pretty sure they didn't wear the clothes that the Pharaohs of old we wearing.
Look at coins depicting the Ptolemaic rulers, they don't look anything like the old Pharaohs