Starting date 400 bc

[PROMETHEUS ts]

How many would like to see an I talian campaign or Make start the game at 400 bc .?


Think about ... We would have so some egyptian units , alexander the great , persians , and samnitic wars ...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...y_400bC_en.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ma..._336_BC-en.svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MacedonEmpire.jpg

[Karnil Vark Khaitan]

Hmm that is not so bad I think.
in that age we (the player) will be there to see the birth of the roman empire and the rise of alexander.

But will carthage still be in that timeframe??

[Signifer]

Yep. Carthage was founded around 800 BC.

[Paranoid Android]

I, too, was a little disappointed that they're starting so late, but since the focus is on Rome, it's not all that surprising.

[Jezza93]

I'd like to see it BUT...not as the default starting campaign. I don't want to have to wait 300 years for the Marian reforms. Though I would LOVE to see this as another campaign,a provincial campaign focused on a map of some of Western Greece,Sardinia,Sicily and as north as the pyrennesse up to Massalia to the west.

[The Holy Pilgrim]

I would love to be able to conquer all of Italy before moving on to the rest of the world.

[Markas]

The Samnite wars would be an excellent period for the tutorial with Rome adopting the manipular formations of the Samnites and developing their navy. As the game is based mostly around Rome, starting at 400 BC would be too early for me rather than the start of the largest war seen up until that point in the Punic Wars. If the game did not have such an emphasis on Rome then sure, otherwise no.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Perhaps the game should be split into three timelines

400 - 220 bc early

220 bc 1 AD republican rome

1 AD 200 AD imperial rome

And for expansion

200 - 473 AD

[Grimbold]

It would be nice, but there would need to be some sort of script so that the Macedonian empire expanded they way it was supposed to, which in turn made the game predictable and it would destroy a load of factions, leaving the player to deal with a major super power.

[Muizer]

Prometheus, for someone who has such track record in modding it seems you're making quite extraordinary demands on CA. First you propose the game extends to china and now you're proposing the game should span more or less the period 400 BC to 473AD (which tbh is a weird endpoint for any campaign, but let's leave that for another thread). I can only conclude you want the game to be quite simplistic, because there's no way such an area and time span are going to be covered in any detail.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Prometheus, for someone who has such track record in modding it seems you're making quite extraordinary demands on CA. First you propose the game extends to china and now you're proposing the game should span more or less the period 400 BC to 473AD (which tbh is a weird endpoint for any campaign, but let's leave that for another thread). I can only conclude you want the game to be quite simplistic, because there's no way such an area and time span are going to be covered in any detail.

Yes? Please quote my thread where I ask CA to extend the map to including china?

As for the 400 bc starting date I see no problem with that especially with dedicated starting dates.

But thanks for your valuable comment Muizer .

[Kaap]

600+ years to cover. And how many turns did you have in mind? And how realistic do you think is the chance your wishes are implemented...

[PROMETHEUS ts]

600+ years to cover. And how many turns did you have in mind? And how realistic do you think is the chance your wishes are implemented...

As I wrote , Starting dates and three timesettings ...

As for turn progression I would like 2 turns for season :p ....

[Kaap]

As I wrote , Starting dates and three timesettings ...

Doesn't work like that. The early and late options were available as optional. You force people into them due to having too many years.

Mind the world domination game that starts early and lets you progress into the late? I mean, I certainly want to progress Rome from a republic into the imperial age. That wouldn't work with such a long timespan.

As for turn progression I would like 2 turns for season :p ....

Count on 2 to 4 turns per year.

No offence by the way but I think somebody else in 1 of your other threads also said so, you really start a lot of topics asking for a lot of features with the most expanded options possible. Any sence of what's realistic to get implemented ingame seems gone

[boofhead]

753 BC. Aeneas. Romulus and Remus. The Etruscans and Sabines. The Kings of Rome.

Screw historical realism, go the whole hog.

[RandarKal]

753 BC. Aeneas. Romulus and Remus. The Etruscans and Sabines. The Kings of Rome.

This! with an end date set in 1453, and one turn per week!

So, roughly 114,000 turns...

[alhoon]

How many would like to see an I talian campaign or Make start the game at 400 bc .?


Think about ... We would have so some egyptian units , alexander the great , persians , and samnitic wars ...

Well, if they started at 400 BC, it would be about the aftermath of the Peloponesian war, the decline of Persia and in general the Hellenistic age, not Rome. It would be a good DLC for later though.

[Chris Death]

I would rather have the inner italian stuff as a so called "dlc" and let the "(known) world domination" for the main game.

Do not loose focus on the main thingy - if they gonna concentrate onto italy - everything outside of italy will be either
not so detailed or a dlc.

I want that full game for the big price and the smaller stuff as dlc's - not the other way round.

~S~ CD

[Muizer]

You forgetting that we are on the verge of a new verge tech ology by CA for rtwII so why not have the mauryan empire , actually the three rulers of the biggest empires in ancient history , china ruler ,mauryan king and roman emperor where called the three sons of the sky ...

If was for me I would add as well the central asiatic steppes , china, southern asia and japan as well.... Because That would be a Total War!!!

But I concede your original proposal was just extended to India.

Still it kind of paints a picture.

I, on the other hand, would rather be constructing my winter camp in the Alps, smoke barbarian chiefs out of the marshes and woods, sail my armies up the Elbe river, take hostages and send them to Rome, parley with kings, rebuild my fleet after a devastating storm, secure the grain supply to Rome when the harvest fails.......

[RexImperator]

Playing as the Samnites and Etruscans appeals to me greatly, unfortunately the campaign will probably skip the timeframe. Possibly might get Samnites if we get pyrrhic war, possibly even as an emergent. But I think Etruscans are categorically out.

I agree with the Early, Mid and late campaign idea, that was one of my favourite parts of playing MTW.