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    Default Supplies and Foraging?

    Hello everybody,
    I started playing SS 6.4 from a month ago. I'm playing a campaign with the Fatimid Caliphate, H/H, Savage AI.
    I didn't include RR. I chose Byg's Grim Reality II.
    I'm noticing in the traits of family members something called supplies and forage. What does those do? Is it retraining? I don't understand anything of it.

    I also have another question, I'm in the year 1182, My enemies are 12 now because of a crusade that was called against me. Now, I can't get ANY ceasefire, I can't get ANY map information. Simply, I can't do ANY diplomatic negotiations, even with my allies which is the Seljuk Sultanate.
    Why is this happening? Is this some mistake in the mod or is it just because I'm getting stronger?

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    Default Re: Supplies and Foraging?

    I can't help you with the first issue.
    Regarding the second one: untill the crusade ends you can't ceasfire with any of the crusading factions; you can only if they come to you offering a ceasfire. And you can't negotiate with other cations because being at war with so many factions your repation is really bad so they don't trust you.
    Īnfrānt nu eşti atunci cānd sāngeri,
    nici ochii cānd īn lacrimi ţi-s.
    Adevăratele īnfrāngeri,
    sunt renunţările la vis.

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    Default Re: Supplies and Foraging?

    Instructions for BGRIV can be found here, I think BGRII supplies routines are the same (or very similar).

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    The crusade ended in 1170. So it's been like 12 years/turns since the last crusade.

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    Maybe its just your reputation that is saying unreliable or worse, it makes AI much more unlikely to accept your proposals, also the reason why Seljuks might not be giving out map information is because you already have it at start? I have noticed Ai dosent want to give you his map info for the second time too much, especially if you just recieved it, after 30+ turns it is more likely that AI will give the map info again without asking for tons of money.

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    Default Re: Supplies and Foraging?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baltic Warrior View Post
    Maybe its just your reputation that is saying unreliable or worse, it makes AI much more unlikely to accept your proposals, also the reason why Seljuks might not be giving out map information is because you already have it at start? I have noticed Ai dosent want to give you his map info for the second time too much, especially if you just recieved it, after 30+ turns it is more likely that AI will give the map info again without asking for tons of money.
    It's more a matter of how many factions are at war with you than your reputation. I think it reverses the AI behaviour that makes it want ceasefire when it is at war when many factions. They think you desperately want ceasefire, even though it's mostly your reputation that suffers. When I played as the Fatimids, all the catholics wanted ~20k for a ceasefire; they even sent diplomats across half the world to offer me ceasefire as their behaviour which tells them to make a truce with anyone they don't have land connections to kicked in. Needless to say, I declined.

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