Regional long pike phalanxes?

**IGdood** · July 20, 2012, 04:41 PM

So far while playing as the Romani I noticed that there doesn't seem to be any regional "long pike" (aka Macedonian style) troops. The most I can recruit are the Alpine Phalanxes, Helveti Phalanx, and the Hoplitai units with their shorter spears.

Are there any regional long pike units?

**Entropy Judge** · July 20, 2012, 04:57 PM

Mmm ... there are Mercenary units that you can hire around Italy and Greece. But no, I'm pretty certain that Rome doesn't have access to Pike units.

**Asgaroth** · July 20, 2012, 05:14 PM

I'm pretty certain that Rome doesn't have access to Pike units.

Romans didn't historically have phalanx units. In the start maybe, but in the later, Polybian army no.

And If I am not mistaken, EB is based on historical accuracy.

**Entropy Judge** · July 20, 2012, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Asgaroth

Romans didn't historically have phalanx units. In the start maybe, but in the later, Polybian army no.

Phalanx =/= Sarissa-armed.

In any case, the question being asked is about Regional units - IE, the local auxiliaries the faction is capable of employing, as opposed to the faction's own units. It would not be unreasonable to expect Phalangitai Deuteroi or Pantodapoi Phalangitai to be available for recruitment in some areas.

**IGdood** · July 20, 2012, 07:44 PM

Sorry, I didn't realize Phalanx=/= Sarissa-armed.

I just checked the recruitment viewer and indeed the Romani do not have access to any Phalangitai units. Thanks for the responses guys.

**andrew.murphy1** · July 22, 2012, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by IGdood

Sorry, I didn't realize Phalanx=/= Sarissa-armed.

I just checked the recruitment viewer and indeed the Romani do not have access to any Phalangitai units. Thanks for the responses guys.

Mercs are still good to go

**Asgaroth** · July 21, 2012, 08:08 AM

Thanks for the responses guys.

Glad to be of help to you sir/madam.

**IGdood** · July 22, 2012, 04:33 PM

Yeah but unlike in M2 they can't be retrained.....at least in RTW you can retrain gold chevron units and still experience no exp loss.

**Entropy Judge** · July 22, 2012, 06:00 PM

Though some mercs (like Merc Pikes) are quick enough to respawn that you can maintain a decent number of them if you start recruiting them early - so long as you avoid major casualties in battle, anyway. And the "Retrain and still retain XP" probably is either a bug or an exploit, because it's a ridiculous mechanic.

**IGdood** · July 22, 2012, 11:42 PM

Ridiculous indeed, because nothing is as awesome as having a full stack of golden extraordinarii butchering everyone.

**Antiokhos Euergetes** · July 28, 2012, 01:32 AM

I prefere to blend depleted units, just makes it feels more realistic.

**Boriak** · July 28, 2012, 02:45 PM

The only units that get gold chevrons in my games are FM units and slingers perhaps, mostly due to standing on top of walls and doing what they do best.

**Thuycidides** · August 04, 2012, 11:55 AM

I have never noticed a difference between retraining and merging with a fresh unit. Both decrease XP if the older unit is sufficiently depleted.

I do the same as above: I merge veteran units together. I don't see any shame in building up experienced units when the AI spams elite units as if there's no tomorrow.

**IGdood** · August 06, 2012, 01:16 AM

Retraining doesn't lower XP

**HUtH** · August 06, 2012, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by IGdood

Retraining doesn't lower XP

QFT
and it's a bit odd when some cheap unit has gold chevrons but still uses same equipment, that lack of different kinds of leveling through fighting is very disappointing, especially that nothing changes in such games... you have some poor archers, somehow they survived few battles and they still run in some green pyjamas...