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    Default [Dead] looking for Scyths ????

    As you all can see, and i am very happy about, the Senate of TWC has granted me the title Opifex.
    As a little thank you and to try my best to be worth that Blessing of the High and Shining Ones ;O), i worked on something for one of the factions which is seldom worked for.

    Download link:

    http://www.twcenter.net/downloads/db/?mod=875



    how i made them:

    i used for scyhian spearmen:
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    bodycas of rtw barb infantry
    head of rtr6 eastern infantry,
    the shield of that infantry warrior
    bi shortsword
    beltstrap of atg spartan for jacket - special scythian style border -
    and a new texture made from a well known picture.

    i used for scythian bowmen:
    .....................................
    same basic cas like above
    same beltstrap
    bi hunnic bow
    remapped quiver of rtr6 sarmatian footarcher.
    and a second version of above texture.

    don`t wonder when those bowmen do not run away ;O)

    the bowmen model just replaces the default barb bowman of the scythians, no additional model.
    But the stats and behaviour make them the realy basic steppe warrior which not only strikes from afare but also looks to chop your head off .......;O)

    type barb archer scythian
    dictionary barb_archer_scythian ; Scythian Steppewarrior
    category infantry
    class missile
    voice_type Light_1
    soldier barb_scythian_bowmen, 40, 0, 0.9
    attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest
    formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 3, square
    stat_health 1, 0
    stat_pri 8, 4, arrow, 170, 30, missile, archery, piercing, none, 25 ,1
    stat_pri_attr no
    stat_sec 9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, sword, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 3, 3, 0, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 2
    stat_ground 2, -2, 3, 2
    stat_mental 5, normal, untrained
    stat_charge_dist 30
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 210, 100, 30, 40, 210
    ownership scythia

    the spearmen unit is not very tough but enriches the scytian unit rooster a little.
    type barb scythian spearmen
    dictionary barb_scythian_spearmen ; Scythian Spearmen
    category infantry
    class light
    voice_type Light_1
    soldier barb_scythian_spearmen, 60, 0, 1.2
    attributes sea_faring, hide_improved_forest, warcry
    formation 1.2, 1.2, 2.4, 2.4, 5, square
    stat_health 1, 0
    stat_pri 9, 4, no, 0, 0, melee, simple, piercing, spear, 25 ,0.73
    stat_pri_attr light_spear, spear_bonus_4
    stat_sec 0, 0, no, 0, 0, no, no, no, none, 25 ,1
    stat_sec_attr no
    stat_pri_armour 3, 3, 5, leather
    stat_sec_armour 0, 0, flesh
    stat_heat 3
    stat_ground 2, -2, 3, 2
    stat_mental 5, impetuous, untrained
    stat_charge_dist 40
    stat_fire_delay 0
    stat_food 60, 300
    stat_cost 1, 210, 90, 50, 70, 210
    ownership scythia
    Last edited by webbird; July 19, 2006 at 06:06 PM. Reason: new files

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    Default Re: looking for Scyths ????

    Hoo kme up with a download. I saw the popsts but i lack a BI install right now and innumerable other thnigs. Shall you oblgie me great Opifex?

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    i do need and like to ask for now and here,
    the permission of atg and the creator of the rtr6 units for my new creations with the help of they material.
    If you agree i will upload them for all of us.


    Meanwhile i test them a little, make the other resolution cas and fix all problems which may be there. The first test was very successful but some vertices to change here and there......
    Last edited by webbird; July 05, 2006 at 11:37 AM.

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    some actions....

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    backview...

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    as long as you credit them they wont mind methinks. Especially rtr. I dont know ATG

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    Nice units! I did notice a little glitch with the spearman, but I understand some fune-tuning is still being worked on.





    I'm looking forward to download these. Are you planning on making some more Scythians?
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    Default Re: looking for Scyths ????

    Maybe White Knight,
    first i like to replace the default, where it makes sense, with hooded ones to no longer see every culture with the same models again and again...
    Now the hood looks better, also the strap for representing the border of the jacket is firmly melted with the body. A wild natural leather texture for the scythian spears, now they realy can hide in the steppes.

    Bowmen draw shortswords and join they spear warrior:


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    more sons of the steppes


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    Default Re: looking for Scyths ????

    looks like deer skin

    Last edited by webbird; July 06, 2006 at 07:35 AM.

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    Webbird, very good work again, they looks cool, i hope you will release this units.

    The wonderful Jessica!

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    Wow sure has been awhile hasent it Webby? Great units too I hope to see some cavarly soon aswell.(*hint*Cataphracts*hint*)
    Last edited by Slaxx Hatmen; July 07, 2006 at 10:56 PM.
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    Default Re: looking for Scyths ????

    these models are insanely good !
    hey webbird, im making a sarmatian mini mod for TE, and these would be great to use in it, mind if i do?

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    Dave and Antiochus, thank you very much!

    Seasoned Alcoholic, if i get permission to use the material, like the wonderful quiver, i will be glad to help you with my custom scyths!

    Hello The Celt! :O)
    Reletad to your wish, sarmatian cataphracti are mentioned but no scythian and even those sarmatians are shown on various artefacts with they scale-armor, but all artefacts which i have seen show the horses of the early sarmatians without armor of any kind.
    It´s again a typical CA problem here, they have chosen the scyths for north-eastern europe but around 270bc the "sarmatian" tribes, iazyges alans etc are much more dominant and scyths become a seldom encounter.
    For Rtw 1.3 it seems to be advisable to use Sarmatians with some scythian riders and bowmen .... i am right now not sure what to do but to add some hooded units to the rtw Scythia faction seems to be a good idea anyway.How ever the next unit should replace the bowmen on horseback.......stay tuned!

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    You damned skinner, those skins are awesome.

    Why won't you wanna be my Civitates? I sent you a PM 3 months ago!!!
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    Uranios and Basileos, i am happy that you like them, thank you!!

    Looking careful over the unit rooster of rtw 1.3, it seems CA had exactly in mind to represent just a mixture of those eastern steppe-warriors of that time. Somehow it`s well done even if it seems to be wrong, looks strange and you get the idea of unbalanced composition.
    But that`s not realy the case and changing all scythian units to pure scythic or sarmatian would be "not historical"

    - CA-Teams, after crawling around for over an year now under the skin of your "baby", i slowly see how manyfold difficult some of the decissions where.you made a great job! -

    back to the horde and how they look with my skins at home:
    i think i make a little package for the vanilla scythian faction from the whole material shown in the thread.......

    Horde:



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    i wish i could model LOL.
    fantastic work there!
    btw i sent you a PM as well

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    very nice and those last (on pg1) guys look sort of Sacae; Some of the Saka/Sacae branches were "Oriental Eyed"

    LET US DL!

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    Default Re: looking for Scyths ????

    as i wrote above, i need permission for rtr parts which i also used in the making!
    Without permission no way of release in they actual version!
    But i have send pm to rtr teamleader, just some patience.

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