[B]Starting Date of Rome II [/B]

[JERUSALEM]

What is the starting date of Rome II total war ?

maybe we will see the several campaigns with the different starting dates?! - is quite possibly!

anyway what is your opinion and what is your idea or information about the starting date of Rome II Total War



PS. i saw the the official thriller of Rome II and we have the siege of Carthage of 147 BC.
maybe the whole idea is to start the game in 149 BC, which is a start of the Third Punic War between the Rome and Carthage?!

[Greve Af Göteborg]

I've heard 242 BC somewhere, I think they said that in an article, can anybody confirm?

[PROMETHEUS ts]

April 21st 753 BC ...

hopefully ...

[amelius]

April 21st 753 BC ...

hopefully ...

That would be epic indeed, (maybe as a DLC?)

I would like to see it take place in around 280 b.c. cause you then if gives you a chance to play Pyrrhus leading into the first Punic War.

[Cincinatus]

April 21st 753 BC ...

hopefully ...

It would be awesome if this were true. But I think multiple dates and multiple factions per start date (as in not the same factions no matter the start date) would work best.

[DAVIDE]

Ab Urbe Condita CDLXXXIII

[Lord Baal]

It will be December 25th of the year 0000


Of course I'm aware of the historic inaccuracy. The helmets of the soldiers where wrong.

[IGdood]

Start 243 BC
End at start date of Medieval 2 Total War with the Byzantine Empire.

Yes.

[Mausolos of Caria]

As far as I know no date has been confirmed yet, but I think it's reasonable to suppose it will start in the 3rd century BC.

[Rorarii]

Definitely needs to split into 3 games - Rome 2 (242 BCE to 200 AD), Rise of Rome (750 BCE to 241), Fall of Rome (200AD to ...... ?)

I'd buy all .. and DLCs (if not ripoff)

R

[Dodanodo]

no strarting date has been mentioned by CA. the only thing they have said is that they intend to let you start small, with relatively little to manage, and grow from there (similair to S2). this leads me to believe a 280-270 start date is most likely, since at this point Rome still had to conquer a large part of Italy.

[PROMETHEUS ts]

Perhaps the tutorial will cover conquest of Italy ...

[Rorarii]

Perhaps the tutorial will cover conquest of Italy ...

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WHAT?? and ignore what was happening in the greek and persian world, pre rome ?? NO!

R

[GeneralWolfe]

CA has not said. But, I would like it to start around the Roman conquest of Italy.

[Rhaegar1]

CA has not said. But, I would like it to start around the Roman conquest of Italy.

Actually I'm pretty sure I've read one interview where 242 BC. seemed to be confirmed, with ending dates still being discussed between 0 or even around 50 AD or so. I'll try to find the interview for confirmation.

242 BC seems fine with me, hopefully carthage still has western Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica under control, the Parthia and Bactria can allready be seen as separate countries making the seleucid empire less imposingly huge to start with. The only downside is that Epeiros will probably only be a minor faction in this scenario.

Edit:

Here it is:

http://www.gamersglobal.de/angetestet/rome-2?page=0,1

And because I know how scary it is for native English speakers to try figuring out a different language, here is the relevant section from google translate: ;-)

Rome 2 is about the time of the Punic Wars of the Roman Republic (from 242 BC.) Until about the year 50 AD. to cover, as the young Empire had greatly expanded the boundaries. Maybe the game is also up to the largest expansion of the Empire under Emperor Trajan (117 AD that would be). But these around 300 or even 400 years time, are translated into rounds, we did not tell James Russell. Who is not so firm in the Total War History: In Rome corresponded to each round a year ago, but changed each round as a summer and winter "season" in order to shed more tactics in the army movements. Throughout the series parts, the simulated historical periods smaller and the trains every year more numerous: In Empire, there was a year already from two trains, Shogun 2 consists of four (and four seasons), most recently at Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai even from 24, which first required a careful planning to avoid winter campaigns. As Creative Assembly on the one hand wants to keep the seasons must, on the other hand, a Rome-2-game should last certainly not 1200 or even 7200 rounds, we are excited to see how loud the solution.

Google translate is not perfect but 242BC seems to be the date. They are even arguing about letting the game go it to the 2e century AD! nice!

[General Nuisance esq]

It would be great to have a really early start where the taking of certain cities trigger historical events (phyrrus for example)

[Mausolos of Caria]

Actually I'm pretty sure I've read one interview where 242 BC. seemed to be confirmed, with ending dates still being discussed between 0 or even around 50 AD or so. I'll try to find the interview for confirmation.

242 BC seems fine with me, hopefully carthage still has western Sicily, Sardinia and Corsica under control, the Parthia and Bactria can allready be seen as separate countries making the seleucid empire less imposingly huge to start with. The only downside is that Epeiros will probably only be a minor faction in this scenario.

Edit:

Here it is:

http://www.gamersglobal.de/angetestet/rome-2?page=0,1

And because I know how scary it is for native English speakers to try figuring out a different language, here is the relevant section from google translate: ;-)

Rome 2 is about the time of the Punic Wars of the Roman Republic (from 242 BC.) Until about the year 50 AD. to cover, as the young Empire had greatly expanded the boundaries. Maybe the game is also up to the largest expansion of the Empire under Emperor Trajan (117 AD that would be). But these around 300 or even 400 years time, are translated into rounds, we did not tell James Russell. Who is not so firm in the Total War History: In Rome corresponded to each round a year ago, but changed each round as a summer and winter "season" in order to shed more tactics in the army movements. Throughout the series parts, the simulated historical periods smaller and the trains every year more numerous: In Empire, there was a year already from two trains, Shogun 2 consists of four (and four seasons), most recently at Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai even from 24, which first required a careful planning to avoid winter campaigns. As Creative Assembly on the one hand wants to keep the seasons must, on the other hand, a Rome-2-game should last certainly not 1200 or even 7200 rounds, we are excited to see how loud the solution.

Google translate is not perfect but 242BC seems to be the date. They are even arguing about letting the game go it to the 2e century AD! nice!

Well I'm German and I don't understand this as ''the starting date will be 242 BC''. What we have here, is the author saying:

Rome 2 wird ungefähr die Zeit von den Punischen Kriegen der Römischen Republik (ab 242 v.Chr.) bis etwa zum Jahr 50 n.Chr. nach abdecken,

taking your google translation that is

Rome 2 is about the time of the Punic Wars of the Roman Republic (from 242 BC.) Until about the year 50 AD.

In German it sounds like he means ''from the beginning of the Punic Wars''. The first of them started in 264 BC, though, not in 242 BC. Considering the article has other historical errors (like putting Scipio Africanus in the 2nd Punic War for the shown attack on Carthago instead of Scipio Aemilianus in the 3rd War) I suppose the year 242 BC is just a MISTAKE by the author.
Further proof for this comes from the fact that a good chunk of the 3 pages are direct or indirect quotes (or at least references) to things said by Russell himself, while THIS part with the starting year 242 BC is not. Apparently it's just the author assuming this year, without Russell confirming it.

I know that's just my interpretation of the text, but I think it's pretty clear that this isn't enough proof for a 242 BC starting date. Of course I don't want to accuse anyone here who thought otherwise because they don't speak German

[Rhaegar1]

Well I'm German and I don't understand this as ''the starting date will be 242 BC''. What we have here, is the author saying:

taking your google translation that is

In German it sounds like he means ''from the beginning of the Punic Wars''. The first of them started in 264 BC, though, not in 242 BC. Considering the article has other historical errors (like putting Scipio Africanus in the 2nd Punic War for the shown attack on Carthago instead of Scipio Aemilianus in the 3rd War) I suppose the year 242 BC is just a MISTAKE by the author.
Further proof for this comes from the fact that a good chunk of the 3 pages are direct or indirect quotes (or at least references) to things said by Russell himself, while THIS part with the starting year 242 BC is not. Apparently it's just the author assuming this year, without Russell confirming it.

I know that's just my interpretation of the text, but I think it's pretty clear that this isn't enough proof for a 242 BC starting date. Of course I don't want to accuse anyone here who thought otherwise because they don't speak German

Good point, as a native German your much better qualified to judge the article. Not that I don't think 242 would be a good starting point. Although Rome might be a bit to powerfull by then already since they where almost finished with kicking Carthage out of Sicily.

[Mausolos of Caria]

Good point, as a native German your much better qualified to judge the article. Not that I don't think 242 would be a good starting point. Although Rome might be a bit to powerfull by then already since they where almost finished with kicking Carthage out of Sicily.

Yeah I'd prefer 270 BC or 280 BC to be honest so Rome starts as a ''minor'' factions (although the Socii system should be implemented then, if possible ). But I'm pretty sure it will be between 280- 218 BC, everything else seems to be unrealistic to me.

And don't take my answer on your earlier post as mean or something, I just had another interpretation, but didn't want to sound unkind or so

[TheFedExPope]

http://www.gamersglobal.de/angetestet/rome-2?page=0,1

And because I know how scary it is for native English speakers to try figuring out a different language, here is the relevant section from google translate: ;-)

Rome 2 is about the time of the Punic Wars of the Roman Republic (from 242 BC.) Until about the year 50 AD. to cover, as the young Empire had greatly expanded the boundaries. Maybe the game is also up to the largest expansion of the Empire under Emperor Trajan (117 AD that would be). But these around 300 or even 400 years time, are translated into rounds, we did not tell James Russell. Who is not so firm in the Total War History: In Rome corresponded to each round a year ago, but changed each round as a summer and winter "season" in order to shed more tactics in the army movements. Throughout the series parts, the simulated historical periods smaller and the trains every year more numerous: In Empire, there was a year already from two trains, Shogun 2 consists of four (and four seasons), most recently at Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai even from 24, which first required a careful planning to avoid winter campaigns. As Creative Assembly on the one hand wants to keep the seasons must, on the other hand, a Rome-2-game should last certainly not 1200 or even 7200 rounds, we are excited to see how loud the solution.
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We know what to do. Everybody: Spam James Russell's twitter with Rome II questions!