DM 7.5 RTW unit ranks/depth on huge unit scale

**Grand Duke Vytautas** · July 04, 2006, 02:10 PM

Cheers DM players

I know that DM is recommended to play on large (the highest - 240 men in warband unit e.g.) unit scale, but I myself am playing on huge 120 men in warband for instance (my comp lags crazy at large). Darth made great unit scale adjustments for large unit scale, but I'm afraid it doesn't fit for huge one, at least for me - you know it's very odd seing hastati unit 10 rows deep looks really odd and is easily flanked, cuz it doesnt cover wider area.

So I made my own unit depth formation adjustments to fit personal playing style. The file is export_descr_units in data folder For example, I made all legionaires 5 rows deep (80 men unit), all skirmishers and barb warbands are set to 6 row deep (they have more men in unit; skirmishers are more mobile in skirmishing);
HAs 5-6 rows deep to keep them more mobile; cavalry to 3-4; phalanxes 6 rows, pikemen 8 row deep; slingers/archers to 6 ranks for mobility - in RTW there are no missile penalties for ranged units like it was in MTW so why I have to stretch them so wide, but I'm wondering do they suffer from arrows (cuz tighter formation) and cav charges more? Plz clarify my doubts :hmmm: and enlighten ummm I mean endarken me with dark force lol :tooth: oh Dark Lord Darth

Your feedback is welcome!

**italiano** · July 04, 2006, 07:35 PM

Um, when you choose your formation during deployment you can change the width and depth of the formation...

It sounds like you are just choosing the default formation and not bothering to adjust it.

**Grand Duke Vytautas** · July 05, 2006, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by italiano

Um, when you choose your formation during deployment you can change the width and depth of the formation...

It sounds like you are just choosing the default formation and not bothering to adjust it.

I know that I can increase/decrease the depth of unit while draging it manually, but what is concerning me is the AI can't do it and always uses default unit rank setting.

**italiano** · July 05, 2006, 07:50 PM

In deeper formations, units have less contact with the enemy (along a battleline), die slower and are slower to rout. I think you might upset the balance of the game by changing formations. Not saying your adjustments are bad just that it might upset the balance.

'Large' are the 120 man units. 'Huge' is 240.

**DARTH VADER** · July 07, 2006, 11:50 AM

Currently ...the new formation system will need not your alterations since it will force AI to change width in the midst of battle just like human...as I have programmed it.

**Jehuu** · July 21, 2006, 04:43 AM

what is the recommended units size eg large\huge to play DarthMod 7.5\8.0 and the recommended difficulty for campaign map and battle h\h or h\vh?

**DARTH VADER** · July 21, 2006, 04:58 AM

The recommended is HUGE. I only play/test, fix formations on this setting.

There is no reason for me not to use the max nbr of men that the engine provides me.(If someone has low end system then drop the graphics..there is no such pleasure of controlling thousands of troops than squadrons of few men)

Also DarthMod_RTW is designed to give you better framerates than even CA default.
The BI_DarthMod can be a little more laggy.

For difficulty

M = cautious AI, fair stats
H = Balanced AI, decreased thresholds of momentums for AI interaction
VH = Aggressive AI, very favoured stats for AI...impossible !(In DM)