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    Default Start of Campaign alliances enemies

    Is there supposed to be certain factions at war with each other at the start of each campaign early or late? I was just wondering as I reinstalled it but couldn't remember if everyone starts just neutral or not. IS there a small sub mod that makes it historically accurate of the time periods?

    Cheers

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    Default Re: Start of Campaign alliances enemies

    You can set the starting faction relations and diplomatic stances in descr_strat.
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    faction_standings venice, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings venice, -0.20 milan
    faction_standings venice, -0.40 hre, hungary
    faction_standings venice, -0.50 byzantium
    faction_standings venice, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings sicily, 0.60 milan
    faction_standings sicily, 0.40 hre
    faction_standings sicily, 0.20 portugal, papal_states
    faction_standings sicily, -0.40 egypt, moors, byzantium, aragon
    faction_standings sicily, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings milan, 0.60 sicily
    faction_standings milan, 0.40 france
    faction_standings milan, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings milan, -0.20 venice
    faction_standings milan, -0.60 hre
    faction_standings milan, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings papal_states, 0.40 jerusalem
    faction_standings papal_states, 0.20 poland, hungary, england, teutonic_order, sicily, milan, venice
    faction_standings papal_states, -0.60 slave
    faction_standings papal_states, -0.80 turks, moors, egypt, hre
    faction_standings denmark, 0.60 teutonic_order
    faction_standings denmark, 0.40 norway
    faction_standings denmark, -0.20 russia
    faction_standings denmark, -0.60 hre
    faction_standings denmark, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings egypt, 0.60 moors
    faction_standings egypt, -0.40 sicily
    faction_standings egypt, -0.80 jerusalem, papal_states
    faction_standings egypt, -1.00 slave, mongols, timurids
    faction_standings scotland, 0.90 france
    faction_standings scotland, -0.50 norway
    faction_standings scotland, -0.80 england
    faction_standings scotland, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings cumans, 0.60 lithuania
    faction_standings cumans, -0.40 kwarezm
    faction_standings cumans, -0.80 kievan_rus
    faction_standings cumans, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings mongols, -0.80 hungary, poland
    faction_standings mongols, -1.00 timurids, egypt, slave, kwarezm, byzantium, russia, turks, kievan_rus
    faction_standings turks, 0.60 moors
    faction_standings turks, 0.20 kwarezm
    faction_standings turks, -0.60 jerusalem
    faction_standings turks, -0.80 byzantium, papal_states
    faction_standings turks, -1.00 slave, timurids, mongols
    faction_standings france, 0.90 scotland
    faction_standings france, 0.40 milan
    faction_standings france, -0.20 spain
    faction_standings france, -0.40 aragon
    faction_standings france, -0.50 hre
    faction_standings france, -0.60 england
    faction_standings france, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings hre, 1.00 teutonic_order
    faction_standings hre, 0.40 sicily
    faction_standings hre, -0.40 venice
    faction_standings hre, -0.50 france
    faction_standings hre, -0.60 milan, poland, denmark
    faction_standings hre, -0.80 papal_states
    faction_standings hre, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings england, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings england, -0.20 norway
    faction_standings england, -0.60 france
    faction_standings england, -0.80 scotland
    faction_standings england, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings portugal, 0.80 aragon
    faction_standings portugal, 0.60 spain
    faction_standings portugal, 0.20 sicily
    faction_standings portugal, -0.90 moors
    faction_standings portugal, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings poland, 0.80 hungary
    faction_standings poland, 0.40 lithuania
    faction_standings poland, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings poland, -0.40 russia
    faction_standings poland, -0.60 hre
    faction_standings poland, -0.80 mongols
    faction_standings poland, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings byzantium, 0.60 norway
    faction_standings byzantium, 0.40 russia, kievan_rus
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.20 hungary, timurids
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.40 sicily
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.50 venice
    faction_standings byzantium, -0.80 turks
    faction_standings byzantium, -1.00 slave, mongols
    faction_standings moors, 0.60 egypt, turks
    faction_standings moors, -0.40 sicily
    faction_standings moors, -0.80 papal_states, aragon
    faction_standings moors, -0.90 portugal, spain
    faction_standings moors, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings russia, 0.60 lithuania
    faction_standings russia, 0.40 byzantium
    faction_standings russia, 0.20 kievan_rus
    faction_standings russia, -0.20 denmark
    faction_standings russia, -0.40 poland, teutonic_order
    faction_standings russia, -1.00 slave, mongols
    faction_standings spain, 0.60 portugal
    faction_standings spain, -0.20 france
    faction_standings spain, -0.90 moors
    faction_standings spain, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings hungary, 0.80 poland
    faction_standings hungary, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings hungary, -0.20 byzantium
    faction_standings hungary, -0.40 venice
    faction_standings hungary, -0.80 mongols
    faction_standings hungary, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings aragon, 0.80 portugal
    faction_standings aragon, -0.40 sicily, france
    faction_standings aragon, -0.80 moors
    faction_standings aragon, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings lithuania, 0.60 cumans, russia
    faction_standings lithuania, 0.40 poland
    faction_standings lithuania, -0.80 teutonic_order
    faction_standings lithuania, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings kievan_rus, 0.40 byzantium
    faction_standings kievan_rus, 0.20 russia
    faction_standings kievan_rus, -0.80 cumans
    faction_standings kievan_rus, -1.00 slave, mongols
    faction_standings teutonic_order, 1.00 hre
    faction_standings teutonic_order, 0.60 denmark
    faction_standings teutonic_order, 0.20 papal_states
    faction_standings teutonic_order, -0.40 russia
    faction_standings teutonic_order, -0.80 lithuania
    faction_standings teutonic_order, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings timurids, -0.20 byzantium
    faction_standings timurids, -1.00 kwarezm, slave, egypt, mongols, turks
    faction_standings norway, 0.60 byzantium
    faction_standings norway, 0.40 denmark
    faction_standings norway, -0.20 england
    faction_standings norway, -0.50 scotland
    faction_standings norway, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings jerusalem, 0.40 papal_states
    faction_standings jerusalem, -0.60 turks
    faction_standings jerusalem, -0.80 egypt
    faction_standings jerusalem, -1.00 slave
    faction_standings kwarezm, 0.20 turks
    faction_standings kwarezm, -0.40 cumans
    faction_standings kwarezm, -1.00 mongols, slave, timurids
    faction_standings slave, -0.60 papal_states
    faction_standings slave, -1.00 hungary, lithuania, aragon, russia, moors, spain, jerusalem, norway, byzantium, kwarezm, teutonic_order, kievan_rus, timurids, egypt, denmark, cumans, scotland, sicily, poland, milan, england, hre, venice, portugal, turks, mongols, france

    faction_relationships venice, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships sicily, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships milan, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships papal_states, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships denmark, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships egypt, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships scotland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships cumans, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships mongols, at_war_with kwarezm, slave
    faction_relationships turks, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships france, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships hre, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships england, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships portugal, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships poland, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships byzantium, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships moors, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships russia, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships spain, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships hungary, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships aragon, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships lithuania, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships kievan_rus, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships teutonic_order, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships timurids, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships norway, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships jerusalem, at_war_with slave
    faction_relationships kwarezm, at_war_with slave, mongols
    faction_relationships slave, at_war_with hungary, spain, aragon, byzantium, lithuania, russia, moors, jerusalem, norway, venice, kwarezm, teutonic_order, kievan_rus, timurids, denmark, papal_states, scotland, egypt, sicily, poland, milan, hre, france, portugal, england, mongols, cumans, turks

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    Default Re: Start of Campaign alliances enemies

    Ok Cheers, so its supposed to be set as neutral for everyone?

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    Default Re: Start of Campaign alliances enemies

    I Always do that in every Medieval II Mod i like to create my story where for example i put Genoa in War with Venice or the HRE at war with France with support of Spain and England while France is aid by Scotland and Denmark while the faction i chose is deciding which side to take ect.. Its good to use your imagination .

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    Default Re: Start of Campaign alliances enemies

    in terms of 1100, the general war / peace situation is..

    Moors at war with Castille-Leon
    Portugal was the vassal of Castille-Leon

    Pope was at war with HRE (the HRE emperor was excommunicated in 1100)

    Crusaders obviously at war with the Turks and Egypt.

    Kwarezmids were vassals of the Seljuq Turks.

    Byzantium was sorta still at war with the Turks.

    The Cuman-Kiev situation was always hard to describe, in that some Cuman tribes were almost always at war with some Kievan Princes but a the same times other tribes were aliies to other Princes. (often through inter-marriage)
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