Make us able to physically see retainers!

[Lockcaps]

Really small detail, but im wondering what peoples opinions are on this. A retainer in previous TW games is really nothing more than a trait, except with other bonuses. I would like to see some retainers actually show up with the characters that have them. A few examples(that i just made up)

"Custom-designed Armor" - Increased Armor/Hitpoints for the character. In the battlefield, he will have a different looking armorset.
"Personal Standardbearer" - Increases morale for the general and units in a radius nearby. A rider with a standard will ride beside the general in battle.
"Gallic Weaponsmith" - Increased meleedamage and chargebonus. Sword/Spear will look different.

[Destraex]

I would like to see warrior retainers and the baggage train. But the map no doubt would not be big enough.

[snarst]

It would be cool to add retainers but some should not show up, for example an exotic slave would not show up on the front lines since he/she is for show or "other" purposes.

Also what of battlefield surgeons/doctors and the like?

Unless they plan on making soldiers actually wounded on the battlefield they probably wont make an appearance, assuming they go for this idea.

I would like to see the subtle things like that but this means that these retainers are also in peril and you could loose them in battle. If say your veteran warrior who gives your general a +1 command bonus gets killed, well looks like your general just lost a star.

[Rorarii]

I would like to see warrior retainers and the baggage train. But the map no doubt would not be big enough.

+1 this

plus ,military camp

Retainers would probably be only for wealthier soldiers - generals, triarii, Eques ... image each triarii with his own plethora of clients and servants etc ..probably where Accensi came from ??

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[Kinjo]

I love how in the original RTW the more retainers your general had the larger his bodyguard unit was, I thought that was a great little feature.

[Savoyard]

I love how in the original RTW the more retainers your general had the larger his bodyguard unit was, I thought that was a great little feature.

Wait, that's how they worked? I though it had something to do with something like how prestigious the general was, but what you say makes more sense.

[Timefool]

Wait, that's how they worked? I though it had something to do with something like how prestigious the general was, but what you say makes more sense.

Sort of but not exactly. The only factors of bodyguard size are him being a faction leader/heir, his influence, and his personal security, which isn't visible.

[General Sultan V]

how about the Military camp? It would be great to see like a camp with fortifications and stuff, not garrissonable ofcourse however routed units flee to it

[Durendalv2]

I like this idea a lot. I've been playing Fall of the Samurai, and they have a plethora of retainers and small details like the Martini-Henry rifle etc. I would love to see stuff like that appear in game.

[Lockcaps]

As for the problem with retainers dying, make them have really poor offensive stats but insanely high defence, and make them instantly rout if the general dies.

[Rorarii]

Each Spartan would have a number of Helot slave retainers, yes ?

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[Durendalv2]

Each Spartan would have a number of Helot slave retainers, yes ?

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Take a Spartan unit of 300 and each one has a Helot, the unit doubles in size (and has combined arms!)... I like it!

[General Sultan V]

Unit officers should also mean something, Like a roman centurion, you know he was usually the most Well equipped man in a century of over 100 other men, Officers should be the strongest units in their unit

[Raimeken]

Unit officers should also mean something, Like a roman centurion, you know he was usually the most Well equipped man in a century of over 100 other men, Officers should be the strongest units in their unit

That used to be the case, until CA invented something called Empire: Total War and made the AI suicide their generals made of glass.

[TheRomanRuler]

That used to be the case, until CA invented something called Empire: Total War and made the AI suicide their generals made of glass.

I think your point is incorrect...
Class is too strong word to descride them

[Bobz]

That used to be the case, until CA invented something called Empire: Total War and made the AI suicide their generals made of glass.

Why should the generals be stronger? Empire was past the age of armour, where at least the nobility had access to superior armour.

[daelin4]

There were some retainers that increase the the number of men in RTW's general units. I thought that was a nifty feature. Most of them, even the military ones, don't do this however. I felt it a bit of a below expectation, even half-hearted, kind of innovation. All of these type retinue should give much smaller increases (say, 2 men) and have them all stack up, rather than one specific retinue that increases the guard by 20 guys.

[Armatus]

Wait wasn't this already a feature since RTW?

[Sir Pignans]

I Napoleon I distinctly remember seeing a hot-air balloon on the battle map. That's a retainer isn't it?

[Condottiere 40K]

Foreign fruitcake, catamites and stingy wife should be fun fellow travellers.