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    Default Low charge bonus

    Why do the units in this mod have such low charge bonuses and why do they not charge at the enemy until they are very close to each other like in vanilla the units in game would charge from a longer distance if that makes sense sorry if it doesnt

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    Libertus
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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    I think the charge bonuses are realistic and good enough. It's mostly cavalry that's good at charging, since they have the size, strenght and weight of their horses to trib and trample footmen. Heavier cavalry of course has better charge due to armor and can roll over many units easily, but even they aren't invincible.

    It's just that in reality cavalry - even heavy one - isn't anything godlike on the battlefield. Surely it's useful and extremely efficient when used properly AND supported by other units.

    As for your other question: charges are more efficient if the cavalry unit comes in a tight formation that penetrates the enemy line. They simply have a better chance at breaking the lines if they come in together. Also, if the unit would charge from very long distances the enemy would be able to avoid the charge, since while charging, the unit loses quite a bunch of it's manuevarability. Besides, I've seen my cavalry doing charges from quite afar anyway and they do have pretty solid charge bonuses aswell. Maybe you are simply using poor quality cavalry?

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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    I was using some infantry in the battle and I didn't mean really long distance but lets say the enemy unit was halfway towards my army then that's when both units would then charge not when they are really close up if that makes sense

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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel Pidgeon View Post
    I was using some infantry in the battle and I didn't mean really long distance but lets say the enemy unit was halfway towards my army then that's when both units would then charge not when they are really close up if that makes sense
    I know what you mean ... this bothered me too in the beginning, I just got used to it.
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    nici ochii cānd īn lacrimi ţi-s.
    Adevăratele īnfrāngeri,
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    Libertus
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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    Well infantry isn't really used for charging, infantry is more for toe-to-toe fighting

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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    Because with high charge distances charges don't turn out well a lot of the time.

    "Why do the units in this mod have such low charge bonuses"

    Why do the units in other mods have such high charge bonuses?

    Aah.


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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    I do really like this mod though just hope it doesn't go funny and start having bugs on it

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    Libertus
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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    Well bugs can occur in vanilla too and any mod is always little bit more unstable than vanilla, so bugs can and probably will occur at some point, BUT SS 6.4 is IMO extremely stable when compared to many other great mods. For example I've experienced only two CTDs during my time with SS 6.4. Can't say so for many other mods

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    Default Re: Low charge bonus

    The lower charge distance is realistic as since the bronze age armies rarely charge screaming from 100 yards apart. If the advance is a charge and not performed in ordered ranks usually only the last few meters are charged so they don't arrive exhausted or give the enemy time to see what is coming.

    I personally don't agree with the really low charge for all the infantry because some infantry should be able to charge a bit better though changing that requires working on most of the EDU in a consistent way.

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