list of (possibly) included factions

[Dodanodo]

There has been some speculation on wich factions will be in the game. I remember reading somewhere that James Russel said in an interview there would be about 50 factions in the game, if not more.
I was wondering, based on our knowlidge of the period, how many factions could we come up with? And could we based on what we know puzzle together exactly how many differant factions there will be. for example: in how many factions is CA going to split the greek city-states, or the tribes of Gaul?

(bare in mind I speak of factions in-game, not just playable factions)

So I'll start with some basic factions:
1. Rome (Duuuh!)
2. Carthage
3. Egypt
4. Seleucids
5. Parthia
6. Macedonia
7. Greek City States (a)
8. Pontus
9. Armenia
10. Numedia
11. Sparta (b)
12. Pergamon (c)
13. scythia
14. epirus
15. Thrace (d)

(a) some sort of league of smaller city-states led by Athens
(b) James Russel gave an example in a swedish magazine of Sparta playing very differantly than other greek states. it alsdo sticks with their new 'starting small' philosophy, and RS II pulled it off quite nicely, so I think it has high chances of being a nation of it's own.
(c) Pergamon was a Diadochi state under the attalid dynasty, and grew quite large historicly, so I think it also has a good chance.
(d) I'm not entirly sure wether Thrace is a legitimate faction, or just a large entity of smaller barbarian tribes. so It may not belong on this list.

Note that I did not include any of the barbarian factions, because they could technically be divided in to so many tribes, I would rather do the rest first, and then use the remaining "slots" the fill in the Celts, Germans, Gauls etc.

[Varianz]

We need the Gallic tribes. I think a good setup (depending on when timeframe of course, but a good frame of reference) is Caesar's "3 tribes of Gaul"- the Belgae, the Aquitani, and the Celts. Yes, it's not completely accurate as those weren't unified political bodies, but in game terms the geography makes sense. 3 tribes wouldn't overly weaken the Gauls by dividing them into so many different groups, but would also be somewhat historical. A similar model should be followed for other "barbarian" groups- the Germans, the Britons, Thracians, etc.

[removeduser_4536284751384]

Well, they were all Celts. The Averni and Audei are what Europa Barbarorum went with. However I'm betting this game can handle like 3-5 Gallic tribes. Italy will also have all of its tribes hopefully.

[Maximus_54]

Why thank you Cpt.Obvious. Your thread is very helpful indeed, as if nobody had the same idea.

[Mausolos of Caria]

ANOTHER thread on this? The longest one so far was this one http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...547927&page=13

But I want to be kind, something like your faction list, dodanodo, will probably be the one of the playable (from start on) factions. I think those will be 15-20 if they have 50-60 factions overall. Obviously the Greek city states would have to be split into a higher number of factions, like

- Kingdom of Sparta
- The Achaian League
- The Aitolian League
- Rhodos
- Kingdom of Epiros
- (Polis of Athens)
- The Attalid Kingdom of Pergamon
- Polis of Massalia
- Polis of Syrakus

and we would have to add all those Barbarian tribes, but just look into the other thread for them

[Dodanodo]

ANOTHER thread on this? The longest one so far was this one http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...547927&page=13

But I want to be kind, something like your faction list, dodanodo, will probably be the one of the playable (from start on) factions. I think those will be 15-20 if they have 50-60 factions overall. Obviously the Greek city states would have to be split into a higher number of factions, like



and we would have to add all those Barbarian tribes, but just look into the other thread for them

AAh, you see I was looking for a proper list, but could not find one. thank you

[Mausolos of Caria]

AAh, you see I was looking for a proper list, but could not find one. thank you

No problem, Lord Vader

[vadik_1st]

how about Dacian Kingdom there we 2 Daco-Roman wars

[Xerrop]

how about Dacian Kingdom there we 2 Daco-Roman wars

Well I guess any faction from the first RTW will also be in the second version.

[Fabricus]

Give me Bactria!