CA should focus more on ROME

**PROMETHEUS ts** · July 12, 2012, 05:49 AM

I have fears that CA will decenter the attention from a Rome centric game to something else involving other barbarian nations and stuff unhistorically correct to please all the antiroman fans and barbarianliking nationalistic fans ... I would not like that because the roman time was dominated by rome and the most interesting part are the interfight among roman factions , struggle for powers , civil wars , political affairs , intrigues and betrayals of the period , not really indefeating 100 different unihistorical units of barbarians....

I am really fearing they may listen to the voicey barbarian fans and come out with unhistorically correct depiction of the time.... Not that I want something too. Historically precise but just fun gameplay evolving around Rome and not gaul , germans or sarmatians .... Otherwise they should do german total war and have hordes of different naked units of barbarians.... Personally I think would not make much sense ....

So I hope CA will go for a similar approach of Rome I and focus on the romans and the civil wars rather than useless countless barbarian variations....

**crzyrndm** · July 12, 2012, 05:55 AM

Go play Rome I then.

Rome only dominated the later parts of this era, after they conquered all the "Barbarian" lands. IMO, the only reason the title should be Rome is so people know what era to expect...

**Slaxx Hatmen** · July 12, 2012, 05:56 AM

I highly, highly doubt any of that will happen.

**Kinjo** · July 12, 2012, 05:58 AM

Don't you think your being a little hypocritical coming from an Italian?

Rome's fate hung by a thread on so many occasions so I can't agree with you entirely. All the factions in the game should be fleshed out with Rome getting the most attention.

**Marcus Agrippa Vipsanius** · July 13, 2012, 11:32 AM

I think looking back to reach a conclusion on their own offspring is not to look to their future and present ..... the Romans, Greeks and barbarians had their own culture and idealism that fascinate us all without falling into stupid discussions nationalistic

Being Roman or not, is not evidence to make great things, in the past this has only led to Wars in all periods of history....

**♘Top Hat Zebra** · July 12, 2012, 06:09 AM

Rome only dominated in real life.

If I so choose it, then the Britons will be the dominant faction in my game.

**PROMETHEUS ts** · July 12, 2012, 06:10 AM

I wrote: focus more on ROME , and not on all at the same .... Most of the possible barbarian factions where just nothing worth even considerationrather than somemscattered tribes with different shield logos in the end .... Too few to even comeout with new units .... A focus on civil war is more interesting.... I understand the need for more detail and attention also to the real other powers of the time like kartage or Ptolemaics , parthia etc....but really german tribes at the time where barely even recognizeable one fromthe other to justify much differentiation in cultures and units...

**♘Top Hat Zebra** · July 12, 2012, 06:18 AM

Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts

I wrote: focus more on ROME , and not on all at the same .... Most of the possible barbarian factions where just nothing worth even considerationrather than somemscattered tribes with different shield logos in the end .... Too few to even comeout with new units .... A focus on civil war is more interesting.... I understand the need for more detail and attention also to the real other powers of the time like kartage or Ptolemaics , parthia etc....but really german tribes at the time where barely even recognizeable one fromthe other to justify much differentiation in cultures and units...

So..... You want more variety, so they should focus on a civil war?

Also, the "Barbarians" were really quite distinct. Maybe you should read up on them some more.

**PROMETHEUS ts** · July 12, 2012, 06:21 AM

Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra

So..... You want more variety, so they should focus on a civil war?

Also, the "Barbarians" were really quite distinct. Maybe you should read up on them some more.

Really I know too well roman history , and all barbarian tribes , how they looked and their tactics , I agree that they could have different looks but most of them are just same warband stuff ...

There is no need to suggest me to read in insulting fashion what I know by studies over long time and that can be easily even aknowledge by reading history books and archeology essays , not internet miniquotes or fanmade mods...

**♘Top Hat Zebra** · July 12, 2012, 06:26 AM

Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts

Really I know too well roman history , and all barbarian tribes , how they looked and their tactics , I agree that they could have different looks but most of them are just same warband stuff ...

There is no need to suggest me to read in insulting fashion what I know by studies over long time and that can be easily even aknowledge by reading history books and archeology essays , not internet miniquotes or fanmade mods...

I was not insulting anyone, I apologize if it sounded that way. I was simply suggesting you read about them before passing the off as identicle savages.

If you HAVE read about them, and still think they're all the same, then.... Maybe read again?

**PROMETHEUS ts** · July 12, 2012, 06:28 AM

Originally Posted by ♘Top Hat Zebra

I was not insulting anyone, I apologize if it sounded that way. I was simply suggesting you read about them before passing the off as identicle savages.

If you HAVE read about them, and still think they're all the same, then.... Maybe read again?

or perhaps you read again? Warbands are warbands , changing a shield logo or a weapon shapemdoesn,t make any difference...

**Durnaug** · July 14, 2012, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by PROMETHEUS ts

I wrote: focus more on ROME , and not on all at the same .... Most of the possible barbarian factions where just nothing worth even considerationrather than somemscattered tribes with different shield logos in the end .... Too few to even comeout with new units .... A focus on civil war is more interesting.... I understand the need for more detail and attention also to the real other powers of the time like kartage or Ptolemaics , parthia etc....but really german tribes at the time where barely even recognizeable one fromthe other to justify much differentiation in cultures and units...

Totally ignorant post. See how effective Roman propaganda still is!!!???? It is as if "Europa Barbarorum" never existed.

**PROMETHEUS ts** · July 14, 2012, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by Durnaug

Totally ignorant post. See how effective Roman propaganda still is!!!???? It is as if "Europa Barbarorum" never existed.

Eb is just one of the many pretemptuous historically correct mods , mine included... Wich are neither something to rely on to learn history or use as quote... Actually are full of interpretative solutions and historically uncorrect pickups ...

**Bobz** · July 12, 2012, 06:12 AM

They are most likely to concentrate on all major factions equally for Rome II. Just because there probably will be more fleshed out barbarian factions this time, it doesn't mean playing as Rome is going to be any worse.

**Maximus_54** · July 12, 2012, 06:17 AM

Facepalm

**Maximus_54** · July 12, 2012, 06:28 AM

Insulting? I'd say people like this guy are insulting CA, practically saying they don't know very obvious details. The team that made the original Rome probably doesn't even really exist anymore. Its totally different people.

**Stygian Knight** · July 12, 2012, 06:29 AM

Really I know too well roman history , and all barbarian tribes , how they looked and their tactics , I agree that they could have different looks but most of them are just same warband stuff ...

So we should have blue barbarians, red barbarians, barbarians with fancy helms.... and pink barbarians with dresses if we buy dlc.

**Asgaroth** · July 12, 2012, 06:30 AM

Go play Rome I then.

Rome only dominated the later parts of this era, after they conquered all the "Barbarian" lands. IMO, the only reason the title should be Rome is so people know what era to expect...

I couldn't agree more.

There is no need to make Rome a superpower in the game.

But they should work more on Rome in another way. They should try and make it as detail in arhitecture as they can and they should try and make it more acurrate in policy system, military system, social system and so on. But as units and a faction they shouldn't make it the strongest in the game.

As Top Hat Zebra said :

Rome only dominated in real life.

If I so choose it, then the Britons will be the dominant faction in my game.

I think also that the game should function in this game.

**bobbin** · July 12, 2012, 06:33 AM

So you basically want RTW then? Well why not play that game and let the rest of us hope for something that is more even handed, interesting and dare I say it, fun.

And don't you think it is just a little bit rich for an Italian who is calling for more focus on Rome, to label people who prefer a equal focus on all factions as nationalistic?

**Manuel I Komnenos** · July 12, 2012, 06:39 AM

The game will focus on Rome just like it did in RTW I, so I say we put our effort towards asking for the other factions to be represented with as much depth as Rome.