education question

**joex49** · July 11, 2012, 07:30 PM

hey guys, what is the highest level of education trait a general can have? whats after "Master degree"? i cant seem to find it in the export_descr_traits.txt

**Peter Bolland** · July 12, 2012, 01:51 PM

For administrative education, it's lvl 3.

Code:

Trait Western_Edu
 Characters family

 Level Basic_Western_Ed (Basic Western Education)

 Level Standard_Western_Ed (Bachelor of Arts)

 Level Advanced_Western_Ed (Masters Degree)

For Military education, it's lvl 4.

Code:

Trait Military_Edu
 Characters family

 Level Basic_Military_Ed (Basic Military Education)

 Level Standard_Military_Ed (Standard Military Education)

 Level Advanced_Military_Ed (Advanced Military Education)

 Level Master_Military_Ed (Master Strategist)

Check triggers for where to get it.

Note to other modders: "_Edu_HighEd" triggers will have no effect and "old age" triggers will keep firing after education is complete (Trait condition tests for Trait level, not Trait points). I point this out AGAIN, so hopefully it will get fixed for SS7.0!

**joex49** · July 13, 2012, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Peter Bolland

For administrative education, it's lvl 3.

Code:

Trait Western_Edu
 Characters family

 Level Basic_Western_Ed (Basic Western Education)

 Level Standard_Western_Ed (Bachelor of Arts)

 Level Advanced_Western_Ed (Masters Degree)

For Military education, it's lvl 4.

Code:

Trait Military_Edu
 Characters family

 Level Basic_Military_Ed (Basic Military Education)

 Level Standard_Military_Ed (Standard Military Education)

 Level Advanced_Military_Ed (Advanced Military Education)

 Level Master_Military_Ed (Master Strategist)

Check triggers for where to get it.

Note to other modders: "_Edu_HighEd" triggers will have no effect and "old age" triggers will keep firing after education is complete (Trait condition tests for Trait level, not Trait points). I point this out AGAIN, so hopefully it will get fixed for SS7.0!

thanks! very useful. would +rep if i could

**makute** · July 13, 2012, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Peter Bolland

Note to other modders: "_Edu_HighEd" triggers will have no effect and "old age" triggers will keep firing after education is complete (Trait condition tests for Trait level, not Trait points). I point this out AGAIN, so hopefully it will get fixed for SS7.0!

I never heard of this issue, what's the problem? Don't education work as intended?

**Peter Bolland** · July 13, 2012, 11:09 AM

I reported it a year ago (http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...02#post9977602). Basically, there is no difference between a normal character and one with WantsHigherEd (Scholar) trait.

**makute** · July 13, 2012, 01:01 PM

It's easy to fix, or does it require some modding experience?

**Peter Bolland** · July 13, 2012, 01:28 PM

You just need to know how traits and triggers work. This particular part of it can be fixed easily. I just replaced

Code:

and Trait Eastern_Edu > 2
and Trait Eastern_Edu < 11

with

Code:

and Trait Eastern_Edu = 2

for each *_Edu_HighEd trigger of the 4 national education traits.
This way, WantsHigherEd helps you get the Advanced education(level 3) faster.

However, I think the system needs rethinking, because basic school gives you Basic education at best (Trigger Western_Edu_school) which is good. Anything - even a school - with libraries will give you Masters degree (Trigger Western_Edu_school_library) which is incorrect, only university should do that.

If all education triggers are corrected, taking into consideration that Trait condition tests for Trait level, not Trait points, then it will work correctly.
This requires some careful thinking and experience. Tutorial for EDCT for Rome Total war can help, if you want to do it yourself.