Did god create man or did man create god

[proconsulrockgod]

God creates dinosaurs
God destroys Dinosaurs
God creates man
Man destroys god
Man creates his own...

Basically do you believe that god created man or did man create god

[Sammur-amat]

damn why oooh why the dinos, take us bring the dinos back....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[Shaun]

I believe that man created God.
Just look at how many different gods man have worshipped over the centuries, if god created man, then I doubt that man would worship many different gods.

[Ahiga]

Choice A: God invented Man, as a method to explain the unexplainable. Thus, this is why the progression of deities went from a shamanistic approach of explaning the world while we lived a life not -too- far removed from the animals, to a polytheistic approach which smacked of kings demanding tribute (you respected the gods more out of fear than love. This persists in islam and christianity and judaism to a degree) matching with the burgeoning rise of civilization, and lastly of the most major changes, it went to monotheism as a way to deal with the sheer bulk of too many gods being disadvantaged against the simplicity of another faith, as well as religion taking on a more moral or social status. This can be seen from Christianity and Islam to Buddhism and the rise of Hinduism, and perhaps further.

Choice B is that man created his down to earth concept of a higher essence. Man would have been as frightened of a emotionless void of an essence as he would have been with a death which ended with nothingness. This is why god's took on a personality in shamanism and polytheism, and for the three people of the book + Zoroastorism, was a patriarchal figure, as well as why the device of an afterlife was developed. Man did not -create- that divine essence, but attempted to understand it on a level he could comprehend. He created 'gods' like Jesus Christ/God, Yaweh, Allah, Brahman, Zeus, and soforth, but he did not create divine essence. This sound's very vague, all I can say that I subscribe myself to the idea of the divinity being more akin to Brahman, Nirvannah, Taoism's 'god', and the role of heaven in chinese religion, and not the personification of the divine in western and near eastern faith which I simply see as an extension of the role of Zeus or Baal.

[Darkragnar]

Choice A: God invented Man, as a method to explain the unexplainable. Thus, this is why the progression of deities went from a shamanistic approach of explaning the world while we lived a life not -too- far removed from the animals, to a polytheistic approach which smacked of kings demanding tribute (you respected the gods more out of fear than love. This persists in islam and christianity and judaism to a degree) matching with the burgeoning rise of civilization, and lastly of the most major changes, it went to monotheism as a way to deal with the sheer bulk of too many gods being disadvantaged against the simplicity of another faith, as well as religion taking on a more moral or social status. This can be seen from Christianity and Islam to Buddhism and the rise of Hinduism, and perhaps further.

Choice B is that man created his down to earth concept of a higher essence. Man would have been as frightened of a emotionless void of an essence as he would have been with a death which ended with nothingness. This is why god's took on a personality in shamanism and polytheism, and for the three people of the book + Zoroastorism, was a patriarchal figure, as well as why the device of an afterlife was developed. Man did not -create- that divine essence, but attempted to understand it on a level he could comprehend. He created 'gods' like Jesus Christ/God, Yaweh, Allah, Brahman, Zeus, and soforth, but he did not create divine essence. This sound's very vague, all I can say that I subscribe myself to the idea of the divinity being more akin to Brahman, Nirvannah, Taoism's 'god', and the role of heaven in chinese religion, and not the personification of the divine in western and near eastern faith which I simply see as an extension of the role of Zeus or Baal.

Pretty much agree with you on the western Personification of God,
But not on the Choice's.

The Concept of God is very flexible ,let me explain God can be 2 things for 2 people Also he can be the same for both of them at the same time.

Different in the sense that One might think him to be A Divine Force part of everything while for the next person it could be an old Figure with a Beard sitting in a seat on some cloud looking out down on us and passing judgments while one person believing in Life after Death and the other believing in Reincarnation until you reach Moksha and transcend this circle of rebirth to be 1 step closer to God.
Same in the sense the effect of believing in him have a coequal result although seen in two completly diffrent prospective's the end efffect on both the individual's is the same , the sense of Trancquility and Knowing that things cant be bad in the future if you take care of your present.
So in the end People might talk about 2 things but they could be talking about the same thing but in a diffrent way.
The same thing rings true with this question of Man Creating God or God Creating Man, people might say a thing in favour for God Creating Man and other people might say a thing for Man Creating God but it ultimatly boils down to what you want to believe.

We all know Man was made on this earth, and there were animals like Dinosaur's before him, we also know about things that preceded the Dinosaur's like Fish's that came on land to eventually evolve into land animals, and about things before that like Bacteria formeing together to become solid bigger organism's , and of thing's before that like the formation of Earth, The Planet's , THe Solar System, THe Sun, THe Galaxy , The universe, and according to the Big Bang Theroy the Single mass that encompress's the whole Universe but thats where thing's stop what was before that Single Mass, how did that come to be ?
Scientist's and Ancient texts say that it the universe as we know it has been destroyed and remade an unknow number of times ,
but the question still stands when counting down to the very 1st time the Single Mass exploded to form the universe ,in that time what was before that ? what was before the very first Formation of the UNiverse ?

if anyone has read the whole then then youll know where i stand on this,but again My Idea's are more in Tune with the ancient Vedic texts because it the closest ancient text that is based on Logic and Uses Science that i found meaningful.

[Sammur-amat]

"if god created human" then we are the flaw to ruin perfect balance of nature...otherwise wake up there is no supernatural ,almighty being that sit a few milleniums above doin nothin(man thats a heluva boredom,hehe)

[RZZZA]

The only real answer people can give you is: I don't know.

[Bull Warrior]

Men did create god because he needed something too explaine the inexplicable

[RZZZA]

Maybe its just a sruvival technique, everyone on earth has a survival mechanism, maybe creating religion is another one. Nobody wants to believe that they will die, everyone wants to believe that they will be rewarded after death and "live on" somehow, in some form.

It may just be fear of bodily death.

[Bruticus the Steadfast]

Men did create god because he needed something too explaine the inexplicable

I agree, Man created God.

And in the words of Fredrick Nietzsche

......"God is dead"

[Atilla Reloaded]

That's what I think...

God created Man...
But Man created his own gods because of his ignorance, imagination, because of priest who wanted to have influence over humanity. One day one man began to explain the natural events, that happends according to the laws of physics, chemisty, biology, ect. , with the help of some imaginary explanaions, I bet you know enough examples. He became the first priest.

As the others from the human herd weren't enough clever to know science, they thought that that madman was able to see the world better, to see god's will. Of course that "first priest" had to imagine a supernatural force that controls everything around... god! Than he contrived ( not discovered! ) the only truth any religion ever had - god ( gods ) is ( are ) the creator(s) of everything. Anything else is a lie. Priest, who gained by this way big influence in the society, began to create their own theories ( better to say fairy tailes ) about the world around and said that everything is exactly as they told. The human herd, who wasn't able to give any other explanation, belived them and accepted their leadership.
Priest became a leech on the body of the society...

This time the first gods were born. Every god was a creation of the priest, he created god acording to himself. God likes what the priest likes, god dislikes what the priest dislikes and priest says to the herd that he dislikes and likes anything because it's the god's way. People belived priest because they thought that priest is able to tell them the truth about god and faith ( Of course! They created both and who knows any creation better that it's creator... ). Religion can easy manipulate persons with bad logics...

Most priest have bad logics themselves, but vivid imagination. You will need both to create something like the first half of the Bible and to explain Jesus's life in the way it is explained in the second part.

As I already said and as I will say many more times...

The gods are mortal. Yes, they are. They die as soon as people that created them forget their teachings, just as christians killed their god, just as many other gods died with their teachings when people simply forgot about them.


So, a question to all athiests: "In what you do not belive: in the church and the god it created, or in the God himself?"

What is atheism? Atheism is a limited view on the life. It is limited to the confrontation with the religion = prooving that 2+2=4 and that earth isn't flat. And so many people take it seriously! And so many people are proud of it!

People think too much about the religion...