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**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · August 03, 2012, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by blackmage62

The world map is amazing, but move distances are tiny by comparison to the distances between settlements. I'm not sure if this was intentional or not but it sure means it takes many seasons just to get from place to place.

The World map is far from complete. As it stands, there is a lot of space between settlements. The movement rate of units has been kept standard. If you are interested, look at Zectorman's continuation of PaulH's map redesign. The folks there have been working on ideas for more regions and a more balanced campaign map.

Originally Posted by blackmage62

Goron unit upkeep is prohibitive. I found that just maintaining garisson units put me deep in the red, especially if I had any aspirations of an aggressive empire-building strategy.

The Zora have the same problem. As a quick fix (non-permanent) to the initial unit and upkeep cost problem, Neph standardized upkeep to half of the unit cost. For the high-cost races such as the Gorons, Zora, and Darknut Legion, this creates a massive finance problem. My suggestion is to standardize upkeep at about one-fifth of the unit cost.

Originally Posted by blackmage62

Goron unit captains can't roll, which leaves them to get run over by their own men. This leaves them stunned and straggling a huge distance from their units, who then have to wait for them to catch up. Needless to say, this leaves the units vulnerable because they don't brace, or combat is initiated with a unit captain far away from the body of his unit.

Goron captains have the same model and animation of Ruby Guards/Fire Warriors. These units cannot roll due to their heavy equipment. For this reason, it is best to have either a family member or a Ruby Guard or Fire Warrior battalion lead the Goron ranks so the captain is not vulnerable. In fact, Ruby Guardians are considered the most overpowered single unit in the game, although I personally would give that honor to the Big Octo Battle Platform.

I don't believe there can be a fix for this, as captains and such are standardized throughout the faction in the absence of a family member.

Originally Posted by blackmage62

Deku units seem to have a hard time firing, or at least they take ages to shoot. In a battle against the Kokiri my army was decimated despite my numerical superiority due to the fact that my units couldn't make up their mind whether to do their "winding up" animation or actually shoot at the targets. This should probably be considered priority. I didn't have this problem in the previous version, if I remember correctly.

That is already listed as "Deku Scrubs secondary ranged attack is full of fail." To engage in melee, hold down the alt button when telling your men to attack. (assuming of course that you are using default controls.) This will cause them to charge in melee instead of attempt to shoot nuts at people.

Originally Posted by blackmage62

Also, I noticed there's a lot of flavor text that needs editing. I've been told I'm a very good writer, and I'd be more than happy to look over it and proofread (and maybe write some myself) if I could have access to the script files.

UndyingNephalim is working on that. If you wish to help, pm him and see if where it goes.

Originally Posted by Dutch Blue Guard

Gerudo: Dune archers got no melee weapon as back up, They punch with their fists. Dont know if that is intented. And in campaign they cost only 40 rupee what have to be 400.

I'll add this one.

**~~removeduser_3847562873423~~** · August 03, 2012, 08:18 AM

Gerudo: Dune archers got no melee weapon as back up, They punch with their fists. Dont know if that is intented. And in campaign they cost only 40 rupee what have to be 400.

**hsieh930** · August 05, 2012, 03:50 PM

I'm not sure whether this was is linked to anything already posted, but I get a CTD everytime i attack a darknut city. playing as Gohma

**Wakerz140** · August 05, 2012, 04:15 PM

darknut generals, family members and faction leaders all cause CTDs when they enter a battle. It's on the list of things to do

**Agent 51** · August 05, 2012, 10:05 PM

So I had a rather sudden and odd bug that caused a HUMONGOUS FLYING MOBLIN to appear out of no where.

It was sideways, and appeared to be sitting, and was way off in the distance but I still saw it.

I wasn't able to grab a screen shot as I sadly was shocked into inaction.

I don't know what caused it, but I think it had something to do with Ganon running around in a Mob of Moblins.

**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · August 06, 2012, 08:30 AM

@Agent51

Ok, I'll take your word for that. I'll run some tests and try to diagnose specifically what causes it. While accurate, listing "random giant flying moblin" probably won't help Nephalim fix the problem. Listing Ganon running around in a Mob of Moblins is a good start.

EDIT: Well, I have not been able to recreate this, but I have found something that I need confirmation on. Apparently, in the campaign, I have 7 ganons despite this bug having been fixed with other boss characters such as Sulkaris and The Great Deku Tree. Has anyone else been getting this, or am I missing a file? I'm still looking for the previously mentioned bug. If anyone else finds a humongous flying moblin, can you please screenshot/report it?

Screenshot proof of 7 Ganons below.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

**RocjawCypher** · August 24, 2012, 11:23 AM

I do not know what or how I screwed up, but installing this broke... Hard.
Uninstalled Total War & Kingdoms
Reinstalled
Uninstalled Core Files
Reinstalled
Uninstalled Hyrule
Reinstalled
Installed Patch
Downloaded mod loader (As am using steam)
Tried to create settings (Did not notice config path did not auto fill)
Ran hyrule off launcher
(Showed hyrule loading screen, normal main screen. tried to play a custom battle and all units were showed as normal units.. Tried any way. Crashed.)
Tried to see if I could get mod loader to put in config path (Could not)
Tried to find source of problem on mod website. Someone said had to run game once then use mod.
Tried to run Unmodded game.
Crashed.

Sorry for the double post:
I is this a modloader problem? A problem in how I installed uninstalled? If I posted this in the wrong place, sorry. Havent the foggiest what to do.

Ahah! installed the mod in the main folder, tried to load an empty mod. Sorry!

Archer/Ziggurat mercenaries that can be hiered by the Darknut Legion can move extremely slowly. Unless they have magic floating ability...

Posts merged

**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · August 25, 2012, 02:31 PM

@RocjawCypher

Ok, first off I'll see if Pilgrim can edit your four posts into one. Second, the Ziggurats are supposed to move, slowly as they are being pushed by heavily armored Darknuts. Glad you got the mod to work and hope to see you add your input to these forums.

Thanks Pilgrim.

**GoldenGohma** · August 25, 2012, 07:27 PM

Hello. I've a few bugs to report.

The first is the most irksome... and may not even be a bug with the modification itself. You see, whenever I exit HTW, no matter how it is exited, Steam will continue to think that it is running. This forces me to restart my computer if I care to play again.

Now, to diagnose the situation.

This occurs whether I A) go to the main menu and quit game. B) Use the task manager to close HTW. C) Being forced out from a CTD. D) If I were to Alt Tab to desktop, then right click the HTW icon and click "Close window."

Hyrule : Total War is definitely not still running. It does not appear in the task bar. I can play other steam games. If I try to play Medieval 2:Kingdoms - and thus select the Hyrule Total War mod, I am told an application is running, with my only option being to click "Ok."

This has only started occurring after I installed the most recent patch. At the very least, the first patch that included campaign (1.0.0, I think?) did not have this happen, and definitely none of the patches previous to campaign's long awaited arrival.

Now, I acknowledge that this could very well be something on steam's part. I simply wish to inform you, in case this has been reported before, fixed, and I simply haven't seen the fix for it.

Other than that, I had a minor one off glitch-after restarting the darknut campaign (Again.) , I sent Senturon's starting Initiates immediately east to capture the rebel settlement.

He disappeared when I clicked end turn. No animation signaled this. No fanfare, nothing seemed out of the ordinary, and I would have not noticed sooner if I was not taking careful tally of my highly expensive military forces-especially since this was going to be the first time that, as Darknuts, I declared war on the Gerudo instead of using them as a buffer against Hyrule.

In honesty, I can only assume that was one off-I have not been able to repeat it, nor has it happened before that one attempt today.

With that, I have no more bugs to report as of the moment.

**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · August 25, 2012, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by GoldenGohma

Hello. I've a few bugs to report.

The first is the most irksome... and may not even be a bug with the modification itself. You see, whenever I exit HTW, no matter how it is exited, Steam will continue to think that it is running. This forces me to restart my computer if I care to play again.

Now, to diagnose the situation.

This occurs whether I A) go to the main menu and quit game. B) Use the task manager to close HTW. C) Being forced out from a CTD. D) If I were to Alt Tab to desktop, then right click the HTW icon and click "Close window."

Hyrule : Total War is definitely not still running. It does not appear in the task bar. I can play other steam games. If I try to play Medieval 2:Kingdoms - and thus select the Hyrule Total War mod, I am told an application is running, with my only option being to click "Ok."

This has only started occurring after I installed the most recent patch. At the very least, the first patch that included campaign (1.0.0, I think?) did not have this happen, and definitely none of the patches previous to campaign's long awaited arrival.

Now, I acknowledge that this could very well be something on steam's part. I simply wish to inform you, in case this has been reported before, fixed, and I simply haven't seen the fix for it.

Other than that, I had a minor one off glitch-after restarting the darknut campaign (Again.) , I sent Senturon's starting Initiates immediately east to capture the rebel settlement.

He disappeared when I clicked end turn. No animation signaled this. No fanfare, nothing seemed out of the ordinary, and I would have not noticed sooner if I was not taking careful tally of my highly expensive military forces-especially since this was going to be the first time that, as Darknuts, I declared war on the Gerudo instead of using them as a buffer against Hyrule.

In honesty, I can only assume that was one off-I have not been able to repeat it, nor has it happened before that one attempt today.

With that, I have no more bugs to report as of the moment.

1. The first bug is not a problem with Hyrule: Total War, but simply Medieval II: Total War in general for all Steam users. The Launcher.exe is still running even after the game is started. You can fix this by ending the application from the task manager (the thing you get from pressing cntrl alt delete). After starting the Task Manager, go under Processes, find Launcher.exe, and select end process.

2. Darknut Generals and Family Members are bugged at the moment. In your case, this was not a bug, but simply your general betraying you. Due to a loyalty problem that will be fixed soon, generals have a high rate of desertion. This is why you "lost him". He did not disappear, he simply turned rebel.

**GoldenGohma** · August 26, 2012, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Avatar of the Ice Wolf

1. The first bug is not a problem with Hyrule: Total War, but simply Medieval II: Total War in general for all Steam users. The Launcher.exe is still running even after the game is started. You can fix this by ending the application from the task manager (the thing you get from pressing cntrl alt delete). After starting the Task Manager, go under Processes, find Launcher.exe, and select end process.

2. Darknut Generals and Family Members are bugged at the moment. In your case, this was not a bug, but simply your general betraying you. Due to a loyalty problem that will be fixed soon, generals have a high rate of desertion. This is why you "lost him". He did not disappear, he simply turned rebel.

1. Brillaint. I had only thought to check applications when using the task manager. ... Now, however, I wonder why that didn't occur with earlier patches.

2. I know of their current bugs. However, I was under the impression that units who had no named general were not prone to rebellion. How I have avoided that occurrence before, with the many singular units I send out as scouts, brigand patrol, and on other... classified missions, I don't know. Though, did he disband his unit? I would assume the initiates and watch towers I set out would have seen him. Nonetheless, I'll take your word for it, and take pride in my habit of taking in only very loyal generals.

**RadicalD** · September 14, 2012, 07:45 PM

I just started playing HTW. I tried the campaign as the Ordona Province and the minimap was completely black except for my provinces which were colored. I started another campaign as Hyrule and same thing, so I don't think it is the Ordona one. Any idea, messed up the install, just problem with the current version and will be fixed on the next one?

**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · September 14, 2012, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by RadicalD

I just started playing HTW. I tried the campaign as the Ordona Province and the minimap was completely black except for my provinces which were colored. I started another campaign as Hyrule and same thing, so I don't think it is the Ordona one. Any idea, messed up the install, just problem with the current version and will be fixed on the next one?

It's supposed to be like that. That would be the fog of war. As you move your armies beyond your territory, you will find the borders of other factions. Territory will be colored in as you discover it in accordance with the owner's faction's primary color. This makes "sharing map information" with the AI a good thing to take advantage of. Any territory they discovered will be added to your minimap if you get them to accept this treaty by use of a diplomat.

**RadicalD** · September 14, 2012, 08:02 PM

I see, that got me confused a bit. Probably because in all the other TW you can see the map with no problem, I mean it is different.

**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · September 14, 2012, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by RadicalD

I see, that got me confused a bit. Probably because in all the other TW you can see the map with no problem, I mean it is different.

Indeed. I believe UndyingNephalim wished to add another layer of strategy -- have the player learn the layout of the land and plan accordingly. You could always ask him for his reasoning.

**Avatar of the Ice Wolf** · September 16, 2012, 05:44 PM

@UndyingNephalim

Noted. Those bugs are now listed as fixed. I will check every Lizalfos personally to confirm the other bug.

EDIT: Still confirming, but I have found another bug. Apparently you can recruit up to four Talik the Reds at the price of 500 rupees each. At that point the price starts doubling. How did I miss this before I don't know...

**ZeR0199X** · September 18, 2012, 01:56 AM

Well played the new version and I got some bugs.

1. You can build ports in some cities, when they are not near water.
2. Game seems like it crashes right at the tenth turn. Happened to me twice, once as Labrynna (Love now they are playable) and Hyrule.
3. Selecting campaign then custom battle, or vice versa, will crash the game back to the desktop.
4. Rebel towns have no armies, this makes gaining their territory way to easy.

That's all I got for now. Off to bed and I will play again tomorrow.

**Mattwensley** · September 18, 2012, 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by ZeR0199X

2. Game seems like it crashes right at the tenth turn. Happened to me twice, once as Labrynna (Love now they are playable) and Hyrule.
4. Rebel towns have no armies, this makes gaining their territory way to easy.

I came across these, too, as (you guessed it) by beloved Ordona. Any way to avoid the crash at the moment?

Ordona Hawkmen are still really bad at counting. If you attempt to upgrade them with a leather tanner, it says you are upgrading a unit with 43 members, not 88. I checked, though, at they are still at 88 afterwards, so obviously there's no real issue there, but might be something to keep an eye on.

Overall, I love how full this mod feels now. Only played Ordona so far, but they are hideously limited for units in the first 10 turns (as they should be), but get an insane amount of resources (Edit: It appears everyone gets more resources that they can actually use at the start. Maybe curb starting resources back a bit?)! It gives the feeling of a nation that is actually having to scramble to get an operational force together! One quick question - what is happening with the other heroes, Rusl and Ilia? Are they to appear later in campaign?

Going to hit up a few more races while I wait for the crash fix. Lizalfos, ho!

Edit: Lizalfos - end turn on turn 12, CTD. Confirmed that it occurred twice at the same point. Last few dozen lines of the system log for both CTDs below. I have them saved if you want more detail.

Spoiler for Error log 1:

Spoiler for Error log 2:

Edit: Darknut still hasn't crashed, and I'm up to about turn 15. Hmmm...

**~~removeduser_3847562873423~~** · September 18, 2012, 05:57 AM

Same here. Some rebel villages got units in it and some not.
- Still cant upgrade villages to towns (have to switch to castle and then back)
- towns cant produce units (played moblin and lanayru) Some factions begin with only towns and will die quick (lanayru and horon)
- Dont know for others but in my campaigns, gorons, kokiri and ordona become powerhouses (hyrule was dead in some few turns when they got attacked, same for lizalfos)

**Emrys** · September 18, 2012, 07:38 AM

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