Daenerys Targaryen theory (POTENTIAL SPOILERS)

[Gazzer-P]

while reading through the ice and fire wiki the other day, i came across a section that concerned how the traits of Valyrians, i.e purple eyes of varying shades and hair in gold or silver, have been passed down to many people in essos and some in westeros

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add this to the theories of Aegon VI being a blackfyre fake

has anyone ever wondered, is Daenerys Targaryen, the character that the book follows, the real Daenerys Targaryen, shoot me down if you will i just feel this would be a real delicious irony, it would explain why people like varys who claim to want what is best for the realm would place Viserys over Dany when finding a Targ king/queen and as for the dragons, i don't think they're that special as supposedly anyone with dragon blood can control them and plenty of people is Essos have valyrian blood

Dany never seems to mention much of her childhood, except the house with the red door and wandering around with her older brother so does anyone think its possible she was just some baby they picked up to use as "Daenerys" because the only people who could confirm she definately was born on Dragonstone, i.e Viserys and Willem Darry are now dead.

[Pinkie Pie]

before i even bother to answer your questions answer this.

Why?
Why would they pretend Danaerys is a Targaryen if she isn't?

[Gazzer-P]

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for the same reason people may be pretending Aegon VI is a targ

to use her for power and influence, Viserys would want a bargaining chip to get his throne and Darry goes with it because he's a good soldier, maybe nobody but them knew and if Varys knew, well he wants Targs back and has been shown to go to any lengths to get it

its just a thought, please don't shoot me down for speculating

[The First Triumvirate]

She has too special of a relationship with the dragons to be just pulled off the streets. She may not be completely impervious to fire but she has shown more resilience to fire than some random child pulled off the streets. Although i think GRRM could utilize a last remaining Blackfyre but i don't think it is Dany. She shares the Targaryen madness so i think it is safe to say that she is a legit Targaryen. There is something fishy with Varys' plot and why he has so many Targaryans running around. You would think the more factors he throws in the more complicated the situation becomes. Maybe he just wanted to greaten his odds but if their is a Targaryen imposter it is highly unlikely to be Dany. Dany's brother was a child who could remember events of his childhood so i find it hard to believe that something like his mother dying from child birth could be misinterpreted.

[Pinkie Pie]

has anyone ever wondered, is Daenerys Targaryen, the character that the book follows, the real Daenerys Targaryen, shoot me down if you will i just feel this would be a real delicious irony

Can we or can't we shoot you down?

Aegon was added in as a last minute thing and thus does not really fit in to the current history.
The only possible reason to pretend she is a Targaryen when she is not is if they had the intention of werdding her to Viserys to keep the bloodline pure.
They had always intended to wed Viserys to Arianne though.

Why would Daenarys be a bargaining chip to claimn the throne for the rightful king?
I can see Darry going along with it but only if there is a reason which there is not.
Varys wants a Targaryen back on the throne but he already has two in Vyseris and Aegon so why would he then bring in a fake female Targaryen? surely a fake male Targaryen would be better?

[kiwibloke]

Aegon was added in as a last minute thing and thus does not really fit in to the current history.
The only possible reason to pretend she is a Targaryen when she is not is if they had the intention of werdding her to Viserys to keep the bloodline pure.
They had always intended to wed Viserys to Arianne though.

Why would Daenarys be a bargaining chip to claimn the throne for the rightful king?
I can see Darry going along with it but only if there is a reason which there is not.
Varys wants a Targaryen back on the throne but he already has two in Vyseris and Aegon so why would he then bring in a fake female Targaryen? surely a fake male Targaryen would be better?

to me Aegon cant be this fabled targ that he claims he is , he has been added to the story much to late as martin pointed out. and although i think this idea is rather far fetched i can see why having a fake targ princess would be good. to answer your q martin a fake targ princess would be a bargaining chip as they could marry her off to a lord to gain his soldiers (like they tried with drogo)

[Gazzer-P]

its a turn of phrase, by shoot me down i mean don't start raging...

my point was, a live, abeit fake, princess would serve a better purpose for marrying to potential allies, i.e khal drogo than a dead one and Viserys was enough of a jerk to do something like that i feel and the reason she's been allowed to carry on this long could be because all those who knew the truth have kicked the bucket, again just a thought

[Gandalfus]

GGRM has no doubt got a blackfyre going on somewhere who is trying to find his ancestor's sword and take the throne.

[The First Triumvirate]

I don't think the kind of man Viserys was would have ever accepted Dany be called a true Targaryen. He would have had to not know about Dany being an imposter otherwise i think we would have heard something relating to her being a fake from when Viserys freaks out on her.

[Gazzer-P]

I don't think the kind of man Viserys was would have ever accepted Dany be called a true Targaryen. He would have had to not know about Dany being an imposter otherwise i think we would have heard something relating to her being a fake from when Viserys freaks out on her.

true yes we probably would have seen the old "you're adopted" sibling dispute but I was proposing he was good at keeping secrets, escpecially if it when it came to getting his throne and he was a jerk to her but yh I understand he was a jerk to everyone...

[Krisz87]

I do not think prince Aegon is a fake, I feel that the targ supporters have put down to much time rasing him for leadership and the coin. As the sayed in the books the boy knows how to wrok whit his hands and he knows how to be poor and hungry.

But any of you played the GoT RPG game? The story is really good and GRRM has helpt them whit the story, and if i understand it correctly, whats has happend in the game has happend i GRRMs GoT world as well.

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There is a other Targaryen that has the blood of late King Robert, so he is a Bastard.

[kiwibloke]

the only people who have invested time and resources in Aegon are varys and jon connington, and varys is one of the most untrustworthy charecters in the books. also varys tell us that he has been trained to be a king but i didnt really get that impression from the chapters involving him.

[Stannis Baratheon]

definitely, he acts like spoiled entitled brat. Varys is heavily biased towards him, for the reasons we can only speculate.

[ggggtotalwarrior]

Okay, maybe a bit Off-Topic, but I think Aegon is mad, and I'm beginning to have a completely different theory about Daenerys. Does anyone think the Maegi's prophecy, "Sun Sets in the East, mountains blow in the wind etc." will happen? Like an entire ASoIaF Apocalypse. It also seemed hinted at in the TV series.

[Pinkie Pie]

Okay, maybe a bit Off-Topic, but I think Aegon is mad, and I'm beginning to have a completely different theory about Daenerys. Does anyone think the Maegi's prophecy, "Sun Sets in the East, mountains blow in the wind etc." will happen? Like an entire ASoIaF Apocalypse. It also seemed hinted at in the TV series.

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

The prophesy has already happened

The sun rising in the west and setting in the east is possibly Quentyn Martell. His sigil is a sun, he was borne in the west and he died in the east.

The sea going dry could be to do with the Dothraki Sea which is shown in ADWD to be dying.

Mountains blowing in the wind may hint at the death of Gregore Clegane (the Mountain That Rides) at the hands of Oberryn Martell.

Daenerys was shown to be capable of having children once more in ADWD. Assuming she has a son she will probably name it Drogo and thus end the last part of the prophesy.

[MagUidir]

"When the sun rises in the west and sets in the east," said Mirri Maz Duur. "When the seas go dry and mountains blow in the wind like leaves. When your womb quickens again, and you bear a living child. Then he will return, and not before."

The prophesy has already happened

The sun rising in the west and setting in the east is possibly Quentyn Martell. His sigil is a sun, he was borne in the west and he died in the east.

The sea going dry could be to do with the Dothraki Sea which is shown in ADWD to be dying.

Mountains blowing in the wind may hint at the death of Gregore Clegane (the Mountain That Rides) at the hands of Oberryn Martell.

Daenerys was shown to be capable of haing children once more in ADWD so she is capable of bearing children once more. Assuming she has a son she will probably name it Drogo and thus end the last part of the prophesy.

wow, I never looked at the prophesy that way... good job. definitely shows some Intelligence on your part. +rep

[Nesimî]

The prophesy sounds strangely like the Islamic view on the Day of Judgement. Hmm.... GRRM does have an impressive beard....

[Stannis Baratheon]

But sure does not restrain himself from pork and alcohol...

@ggggtotalwarrior i would really like that, the only prophecy that failed for now is about stallion who mounts the world, imo prophecies are good only whem they are wrong, i hate them otherwise.

[ggggtotalwarrior]

Holy crap. I did not think of that. You, sir, have done your research! +rep

[Nesimî]

It does not matter, Dany is a misguided young fool and will be dealt with, as will Benerro and the rest of the imbeciles in Volantis who would falsely name her Azor Ahai.