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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18736142

    Some 600 Congolese soldiers have fled into Uganda, following clashes with rebels who have seized a border town.

    The Ugandan military said the fleeing troops had been disarmed.

    As the rebels took control of the Democratic Republic of Congo side of the town of Bunagana, an Indian peacekeeper was killed, the UN says.

    M23 rebels loyal to Bosco Ntaganda, who is wanted for war crimes by the International Criminal Court, took up arms in April.

    They defected from the army after pressure increased on the government to arrest Gen Ntaganda, when one of his former colleagues was convicted of recruiting child soldiers by the ICC.

    Security sources have told the BBC's Ignatius Bahizi in Uganda that the M23 rebels control a 15km (10 mile) stretch of the border running south from the famous Virunga National Park, home to rare mountain gorillas.

    Ugandan army spokesman Capt Peter Mugisa says the 600 Congolese soldiers are in the custody of the Ugandan military. He told the AP news agency they fear being massacred by the rebels if they return.

    Ugandan residents of Bunagana have told the BBC that the Congolese soldiers have been moved to the town of Kisoro, which is about 8km from the border.

    Senior M23 official Col Sultani Makenga told the BBC that the rebels had seized the Congolese side of the town early on Friday - information confirmed by residents of the Ugandan side of the town.

    "The mutineers took control of the entire town. The entire population and the [Congolese] troops are in Uganda," a police source in the area told the AFP news agency.

    Col Makenga said the rebels responded after they were attacked by government troops on Thursday.

    Some 200,000 people have fled their homes since April, with about 20,000 crossing the border to Uganda and Rwanda.

    A recent UN report has accused Rwanda of backing the rebels - Gen Ntaganda is an ethnic Tutsi, like the majority of Rwanda's leadership.

    But Rwanda has vehemently denied the accusations.

    Mineral-rich eastern DR Congo has suffered years of fighting since 1994, when more than a million Rwandan ethnic Hutus fled crossed the border following the genocide, in which some 800,000 people, mostly Tutsis, were slaughtered.

    Rwanda has twice invaded its much larger neighbour, saying it was trying to take action against Hutu rebels based in DR Congo. Uganda also sent troops into DR Congo during the 1997-2003 conflict.

    The current mutiny is being led by fighters from Gen Ntaganda's former rebel group the CNDP, which was integrated into the Congolese national army in 2009 as part of a peace deal.

    Known as "the Terminator", Gen Ntaganda has fought for various militias over the years but has told the BBC he has no involvement in the recent army mutiny.

    The mutiny started when the ICC started to pressure Kongolese government to capture general Ntaganda. So a question rises:How helpful is ICC if with its policy, manages to create conflicts?
    Why a dictator like Kaddafi should abandon power and leave the country peacefully when he is wanted by ICC?

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    You said the ICC messed up again. What was the first time?

    Sorry, but pressure mounting and this blowing over because the ICC successfully convicted a guy close to the general sounds like this is a problem of the inherent incapability of Kongo to enforce its security, not a problem of any outsider.
    And it begs the question wether it would be good to keep a lid on this catastrophic security situation by doing nothing or rather go down the bumpy road and try to change something. It's not like Kongo just needs more time to recover, thus far more time in Kongo just translated into more genocide and violence without anyone being capable to establish security.
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    Nope, the mutiny started because Congolese government ran into financial problem to pay those troops, and according to those mutineers, they were not just unpaid for months but had been abused by central government force. Those mistreatment, combine with Rwanda's support, is enough to encourage former rebels back to their old job again.
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    Unpleasant, but unsurprising.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papay View Post
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-18736142




    The mutiny started when the ICC started to pressure Kongolese government to capture general Ntaganda. So a question rises:How helpful is ICC if with its policy, manages to create conflicts?
    Why a dictator like Kaddafi should abandon power and leave the country peacefully when he is wanted by ICC?

    So we should let mass murderers and rapists get off scot free? No. If there isn't international law there isn't any law at all, sorry if that gets the Republicans pet dictators in trouble, and stops the 'all the children you can rape' holidays after the election cycle, but I guess Rumsfeld, Buchanan et al. will have to cope with that.

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    Why a dictator like Kaddafi should abandon power and leave the country peacefully when he is wanted by ICC?
    Qaddafi received involuntary reconstructive surgery on his rectum by way of a utility knife.

    That he didn't have the option of living a comfortable life in Monaco living off embezzled oil wealth stuck away in a Swiss bank account is hardly a bad thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sphere View Post
    Qaddafi received involuntary reconstructive surgery on his rectum by way of a utility knife.

    That he didn't have the option of living a comfortable life in Monaco living off embezzled oil wealth stuck away in a Swiss bank account is hardly a bad thing.

    Yup, a lil bit of knife-butt interface makes for an ironic end for a of a human being.

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