So im new to broken crescent, any good tips?

[dafuu]

Hi ive had my eyes on this mod a very long time, but stainless steel, and other mods to various total war games had held me away, but now is the time to actually try this game. Ive googled for tips but they are mostly for an earlier verison of bc from 2007 and so on.

So do you have any general tips for handlig an empire in this mod?

One more question: what are the difficulty levels that can be good to play at? (im playing h/h in stainless for example)

Cheers and thanxs in advance
Daniel

[TMK]

One major thing is not to overspend on buildings and to disband all useless units to save upkeep.

[dafuu]

ok, so i guess i should use those money on the right building, trying to build up economy and infrastructure, and keep to one military base that would supporting the armies?

[TMK]

Yes.

[k/t]

You should get my submod. It makes battles much better.

When it's fully finished, it will make other things much better too.

[dafuu]

You should get my submod. It makes battles much better.

When it's fully finished, it will make other things much better too.

Okey sounds good but what sub mod do you meen?

[wudang_clown]

You should get my submod. It makes battles much better.

The way you are promoting your own work and ideas is starting to be harmful for this mod.

I'd say that 70% of your answers directed to new players consist of suggestion to modify this or that. That makes an impression that BC is so screwed up that the only solution of even relatively simple "problems" is to edit its files. If it's your personal belief, then I'm fine with that, but I'd appreciate if you could keep it in mind while "helping" new players to overcome difficulties they meet while playing BC.

Otherwise that's just lobbying.

[k/t]

I'd say that 70% of your answers directed to new players consist of suggestion to modify this or that. That makes an impression that BC is so screwed up that the only solution of even relatively simple "problems" is to edit its files.

We should provide all possible solutions to someone and let him make up his own mind. Usually others have already provided the "rush all nearby rebels" and "build ports and markets and roads" solutions. When someone states they don't like rushing, what other option is there than modding the game?

[wudang_clown]

When someone states they don't like rushing, what other option is there than modding the game?

Try another faction, for example. Not all factions have to rush in order to survive.

You don't have to rush playing as Seljuks of Iraq, Sindh, Khwarezm (yup!), Oman, Abbasids and ERE, and possibly few more factions.

[brapollo]

I sometimes wonder if people have played any other mods. Broken Crescent is generally more balanced and reasonable than the other big mods. I have played numerous factions now and while I am aggressive, I don't just rush every nearby settlement. And things have worked out fine. The problem with this mod are there are things that need tweaked- the approach to what combat looks like is certainly different than say, Stainless Steel, but it's not fundamentally worse. Just adapt to the idea that cavalry really dominates the battlefield in Broken Crescent and adapt to the idea that buildings really need to be thought out well because they are expensive- and you will be fine.

[k/t]

The one in my signature.

Well, the one for Broken Crescent, obviously.

[zburanuki]

add_money 100000, the only solution just kidding. except for building farms,roads (especially caravans if you have a muslim faction) and markets, try to have one half stack army with mounted soldiers and siege the rebel settlements.they will sally forth every time and make your sieges and your life much easier,BUT firstly play some battles to get used to the ''battle reality'' of BC. and something more for the economy,send your merchants wherever you see gold,ivory and sometimes slaves.you gain at least 500 coins foe each and of course have an assasin next to your merchants,you'll see why.oh and lastly don't sack settlements (at least on the beginning) that gives dread and generally bad traits to your faction leader and in general to your faction.

[shikaka]

1. Start in a rich region at first. I started around Baghdad, got the whole coast from rebels and started to roll in $$$. The Nile Delta is also a rich region! The general farm-market-port way works well, just don't forget to check the returns! A level 4 market will not return it's cost in a trade-poor region for a long time! Build what you have to (usually tier 2-3 are always worth it!), after that, specialize your cities!

2. Play onto your strengths: with Kipchacks don't use infantry, just use cavalry forces, small in numbers, so that the enemy sallies forth. With factions having good infantry, don't fight horse archers in the open, rather siege them, etc.

3. BC doesn't have free upkeep militia (great feature btw!), so train only the units what you need. When you don't need the troops anymore at one point, and the journey would take long for them to walk, rather disband them and train new ones closer to the front, this saves on upkeep.

4. Generally, if you are not used to fighting horse archer/light cavalry armies, check a few custom battles.

5. Use agents! Trading is very valuable, merchants pay for themselves in a short time, and after that it's all profit! Assassins and spies can help you greatly in initial sieges!

[nein]

few nations can afford to turtle in this mod, expand outwards and capture alot of rebel settlements. Buildings are expansive so choose sparingly until you have a strong economy... consider sacking for the cash but beware as it will damage your rep. This will make getting trade rights and alliances much trickier with your immediate neighbours. As a rule of thumb see who will and will not ally with you before sacking, alliances mean that the faction cannot attack you like in TA... so they can prove very useful. Cavalry and elephants are expensive, however, light horse archers and elite lancers dominate in vanilla BC. Elephants are ever more powerful if managed carefully. Be wary how many generals you accept in the early game as those guys eat up your cash. Infantry forces are much cheaper but it pays to use them in situations where enemy cavalry cannot keep charging you. Either on bridges or in a settlement

Expand quickly by forcing the enemy to sally, a small cavalary force can destroy a much larger infantry-centric one. Most enemy forces will have a small amount of cavalry that you will need to isolate and destroy so that you can comfortably finish off the infantry

[k/t]

And if I don't want to adapt? And play a certain faction without rushing?

[nein]

>You don't have to rush playing as Seljuks of Iraq, Sindh, Khwarezm (yup!), Oman, Abbasids and ERE, and possibly few more factions

Don't think these are good examples... the seljuks start with only 1 region I think. They do need to expand asap as they also have a poor economy. Sindh starts with only 2 regions but at the same time is not in debt so you could turtle awhile but really a fast expansion is advised. Oman is another faction that needs to expand quickly... it only has 1 region and will quickly enter the red. Khwarezm is another faction that starts out with a handful of regions and will quickly go in debt if you do not disband or expand. The Abbasids are okayish, they have no real enemies at the start and have a reasonable economy so you could theoretically turtle... although building options would be crippled due to the meh economy. Would need to disband your elites. ERE is one of the few factions that can get away with turtling... it is large and wealthy (after you break out of the crippling debt and build some ports). The only faction that can hold back from expansion, without dire consequences, in this list is the ere... without needing to throw its armies away (much better used for rushing rebels).

The nature of bc encorouges expansion, the lack of wealth combined with expensive costs makes you push outward.

[wudang_clown]

And if I don't want to adapt? And play a certain faction without rushing?

It's a question whether the same playing style should apply to all factions. I don't think that would be good setting.

Don't think these are good examples...

It really depends on how much pressure do you feel, and that's subjective.

You really don't have to rush playing as Seljuks of Irak or Oman because they have no rivals in their regions, and that gives them much time to expand without having to rush. In case of Sindh, if you manage to keep alliances, you'll be good for quite a long time. Even having two settlements as Sindh is okay. You can easily develop them and gather wealth (around 100k in around 100 turns) without firing a single arrow. On the other hand, when you play as Paramaras you have to rush as hell. So, there is a difference.

[Loke-Shah]

After SS and TATW I finally decide to begin my adventure with BC. Now I'm playing Omanis . After 20 turns I have all 4 emirates cities and need some advice from you where should I go next? Heading north to abbasid or south to Jemen regions or should I loading my army onto ships to capture Hormuz .it looks pretty wealthy area. I'm not sure but maybe dispand my army and biuld up infrastucture in my 4 regions don't know. What do you think which move is the best?

[TMK]

Hormuz is the best place for expansion and wealth. The south of Arabia is pretty spread out and barren but I like conquering there because I like conquering Arabia with an Arab faction.
North to the Abbasids is not a very good move as you should build up a large empire before attacking a faction with Oman.

[Quirinus Kuhlmann]

I'm new to the game too. What do you think are the best difficulty levels to be chosen for a quite exierienced TW-Player like me?