(more then) 50 factions confirmed

[Rhaegar1]

Hey guys I already posted this in some discussions but it appears it has slipped under the radar for most so I'll post it again.

In the Rome 2 interview this confirmation was drawn out of Russels mouth by the (clever) german interviewer:

Und diese Kampagnenkarte soll vor Fraktionen nur so wimmeln. Dazu geben wir folgenden Austausch zwischen dem Autoren und James Russell wieder: “Werden es eher zehn Fraktionen oder 100 sein?” – “Weiß nicht so genau.” – “Komm: eher zehn oder eher 100?” – “Naja, so in der Mitte, aber eher jenseits der 50 als diesseits.” Natürlich werden nicht alle dieser Fraktionen Großmächte sein, aber es dürfte nicht lange dauern, bis nach Release durch INI-Datei-Manipulation oder Mods auch die kleineren Völker spielbar werden.

After some google translating and help from some fellow dutch TWCenter member I'm pretty sure it means that there will be a total amount of factions somewhere halfway between 10 and 100 but sooner more then 50 then less. (perhaps a native german speaker can confirm it but I'm quit certain of my google translate skills)

I thought it would be good to get peoples attention to this article, aside from it being in deutsch it really is pretty good. And I see the most ridiculous assumptions going around about the amount of factions ranging from people expecting to only get 20 to people thinking 300 is a minimum.

The article can be found here:

http://www.gamersglobal.de/angetestet/rome-2?page=0,0

[MasterBigAb]

I am native German, confirmed:

Komm: eher zehn oder eher 100?” – “Naja, so in der Mitte, aber eher jenseits der 50 als diesseits.

Come on: more like ten or rather 100 ? - Well, in between, but rather beyond the 50 than on this side".

That's excellent news and I guess destroys the fear of the rebel faction to return

[Maximus_54]

Pretty sure 10-100? What the hell. Where is there any evidence of your so called more than 50. Hardly means anything, Its just a guestimate of a pre-alpha game.

[Rhaegar1]

Pretty sure 10-100? What the hell. Where is there any evidence of your so called more than 50. Hardly means anything, Its just a guestimate of a pre-alpha game.

Did you read my post? It's a statement of a guy from CA against a reporter. Proof enough to expect an amount of factions around 60. And to get some nice ideas about which factions have a reasonable chance of being in the game.

[Maximus_54]

Doesn't mean anything. Its just a random guess. Things will drastically change by 2 christmas' time.
Several things were promised for Empire Total War, and the game was total crap when it released.

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

Doesn't mean anything. Its just a random guess. Things will drastically change by 2 christmas' time.
Several things were promised for Empire Total War, and the game was total crap when it released.

*Shrug*

We can expect a lot of factions, since that's what CA does now. They don't have rebels anymore, so they just use small factions.

Whether they are fleshed out, or just generic, on the other hand....

Even if they are just generic, that's totally fine. Mods can fill in the blanks.

[Rhaegar1]

Doesn't mean anything. Its just a random guess. Things will drastically change by 2 christmas' time.
Several things were promised for Empire Total War, and the game was total crap when it released.

I'm sorry but your just being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical now. If this was about a first time, difficult to program feature you would have a point but CA has proven in multiple games they have the resources to create a game with around 50 factions each with different levels of uniqueness and expanded features. There is absolutely no reason why they wouldn't be able to pull that off this time. And no reason to suddenly expect 150 factions on the campaign map either.

Anyway, do with it what you like but this is a better statement about the number of factions in game then I found in any English interview so I thought it worthwhile to post.

[Captain Grimes]

Doesn't mean anything. Its just a random guess. Things will drastically change by 2 christmas' time.
Several things were promised for Empire Total War, and the game was total crap when it released.

Exactly. We've had all this before - what they will include and what they will leave out and include in an expansion are two different things.

I think the large number of factions will be due to famailies instead of just the three im sure there will be more, as well as emergent factions, emrgent famalies that you can have the option to side with or oppose etc

[♘Top Hat Zebra]

VICTORY CHEER!

[MathiasOfAthens]

He just said in the middle so thats around 40-60. Which is expected. Its better than RTW but its expected as well since Shogun II had around 46 factions but only 10 or so were main. So I expect we will get the same deal here. Which is understandable because of how much time it takes to do the work. Modders can make the factions more fleshed out.

Pretty sure 10-100? What the hell. Where is there any evidence of your so called more than 50. Hardly means anything, Its just a guestimate of a pre-alpha game.

“Naja, so in der Mitte, aber eher jenseits der 50 als diesseits.

--Well, in between, but rather beyond the 50 than on this side".

[shokh]

He just said in the middle so thats around 40-60. Which is expected. Its better than RTW but its expected as well since Shogun II had around 46 factions but only 10 or so were main.

Shogun 2 is no reference in terms of factions. It could have 200 factions and still all units look the same.
Compared to at least 10 different unit rosters rome2 must and will have.

[PlPs]

Yay!!! great news

[Greve Af Göteborg]

Sounds like they won't have a rebel faction.

[MathiasOfAthens]

Its a much larger world with less empires. They have to have some sort of tribal faction to cover all the space. They might have a few generic German, Celt and Gallic tribal factions to control empty space acting like a rebel faction. The way it was done in RTR7

But if CA wants to make it right they would make hundreds and hundreds of regions and each city in Gaul, Germania, Hispania and Briton would be a tribe or coalition of tribes, like the Arverni and the Aedui.

[Marvzilla]

He also said that most of these factions won´t be major,but this could be sorted out by mods and
InI-Data Manipulation and they would get playable only through mods.

[Rhaegar1]

He also said that most of these factions won´t be major,but this could be sorted out by mods and
InI-Data Manipulation and they would get playable only through mods.

Indeed, I think it's safe to assume we can expect 10 playable factions that are well fleshed out. And considering the amount of statements about lots of playable factions all over the map I have high hopes that this number could even be 20. Which would be fine by me. Realistically it wouldn't add that much for most people to have 5 Gallic factions playable. For most people 1 playable would be enough for the diversity as long as there are several other non-playable factions around in gaul that you can kick around for a while before you're off sacking Rome.

[Marvzilla]

Also,the battle started with a roman General giving a speech,then the battle was controllable.

The whole demo was scripted,so no UI,but they could have paused and started playing at any point.

The Units are too fast at the moment,but it is pre-Alpha so this will be most likely handled.

It seems that we will be able to ambush the reinforcements of the enemy.And before anyone is
wondering,I am German.

[SkyTrickster]

that is some good news, but how many will be playable? I rather have 50 factions and 50 playable than 70 factions and 10 playable...

He also said that most of these factions won´t be major,but this could be sorted out by mods and
InI-Data Manipulation and they would get playable only through mods.

Not going to happen mate.. modding will probably be even harder in Rome 2.. and look to Shogun, unlocking all factions there is (was) already a great obstacle/achievement.

[MathiasOfAthens]

They said every faction would be playable.

[Marvzilla]

They said every faction would be playable.

See one of my posts above.In the interview,they hinted that it would only possible to play all factions through Mods.