Rome 2 will deliver "a darker vision of war" Rezzed Infos

[Römer]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...-vision-of-war

It sound like that they are trying to get more realistic not only in historical facts. The whole setting seems to be more realistic than it was before.

I like this because it pushes you right in this dark period of brutality and intrigues.

What do you think?

[katsusand]

"Realism is the servant of the game, not the master."

Thank you.

[ironbrigade]

Thank you.

if it were not historical or based on history I and many others would not buy the game at all.

[Amorphos]

The Romans did put ballistas on ships. It's not a stretch to use them to end a siege.

Ok but I cant recall them tearing down cities with them, imagine ships moving about on the sea ~ what kind of accuracy would you get? Was it just the odd ship in the fleet which had them?

Does it add to the gameplay or take something from that?

I’d say the latter, I want to take the cities with my troops, artillery is something of a copout.

good that cities will have them too tho

[Grimbold]

I know the game is called Rome and all, but i sure hope the focus doesn't all drop only on the roman faction. Sure deciding between a monarchy, republic or empire sounds fun (for those that play with Rome), but i want to be able to something similar with an hellenic faction or a "barbarian" tribe.

[TheNasoRomaLost]

Ok but I cant recall them tearing down cities with them, imagine ships moving about on the sea ~ what kind of accuracy would you get? Was it just the odd ship in the fleet which had them?

Does it add to the gameplay or take something from that?

I’d say the latter, I want to take the cities with my troops, artillery is something of a copout.

good that cities will have them too tho

Tearing down cities is absurd but the most well known and well documented examples of naval vs city warfare are Rhodes (city won) Carthage and Syracuse.

It wasn't uncommon for ships to have artillery, Caesar's green freshly built fleet had artillery just outside Massallia (sp) had artillery mounted on it. Using a ram is hard and some things including rower exhaustion would make other weapons needed; even with ramming it didn't always mean the battle was over.

[Cinnamon the Hun]

Well some of this is marketing speak. If you watch video game PR in general then buzz words like "visceral" and attempts to link the game with movie & tv trends like the "sword, sex and sandals" genre are not good signs. It's like the typical recipe for games industry dumbing down and design by focus group. But who can say exactly.

[eighthgear]

Well some of this is marketing speak. If you watch video game PR in general then buzz words like "visceral" and attempts to link the game with movie & tv trends like the "sword, sex and sandals" genre are not good signs. It's like the typical recipe for games industry dumbing down and design by focus group. But who can say exactly.

I don't think it is necessarily bad. The rise of the Republic was a brutal time, but Rome TW barely reflects that. Soldiers, diplomats, etc show little emotion, heck, even exterminating cities is done nonchalantly. A little more reality is hardly a bad thing. I don't think sex is going to feature much, apart from assassinations.

[DavidtheDuke]

Well some of this is marketing speak. If you watch video game PR in general then buzz words like "visceral" and attempts to link the game with movie & tv trends like the "sword, sex and sandals" genre are not good signs. It's like the typical recipe for games industry dumbing down and design by focus group. But who can say exactly.

I think what's important is that we can remove by modding anything we don't like.. Hopefully anything too tacky gameplaywise won't be fundamental/unmoddable to the engine.

[Tonno]

Still a lot "will be >>general info<< " (it's not like we can expect much more) but if they stick to somethings they said in this interview, I'll be happy to spend my money, again, on TW game.

[c.ryo]

I do hope there will be far more cities on the campaign map compare to the amount of them in let's say Shogun 2 ; Napoleon ; ETW.

[Du Silence]

I do hope there will be far more cities on the campaign map compare to the amount of them in let's say Shogun 2 ; Napoleon ; ETW.

Reading some of the info from the interviews, they've hinted that they don't want you to micro-manage hundreds of regions.

@swoosh so - Well, CA has spoken alot about the Province-management, but as far as I understood it, it's a flexible system, meaning you can sort of use it like "Auto-manage" in Rome Total War... That's what I gathered from it atleast, I don't hope you're right on your part though! Would hate to see some AI pulling frontline provinces into mega-cities with loads of fluffy cultural buildings as first priority instead of strengthening the border first >.<
Hopefully the system will be as sophisticad as to let the player micro-manage if wish be... There's just no way I can imaigne them bringing in a complex system that'd auto-manage a way that'd appease or even out-do human players who got a base experience with the game.

[Aelita]

Reading some of the info from the interviews, they've hinted that they don't want you to micro-manage hundreds of regions.

@swoosh so - Well, CA has spoken alot about the Province-management, but as far as I understood it, it's a flexible system, meaning you can sort of use it like "Auto-manage" in Rome Total War... That's what I gathered from it atleast, I don't hope you're right on your part though! Would hate to see some AI pulling frontline provinces into mega-cities with loads of fluffy cultural buildings as first priority instead of strengthening the border first >.<
Hopefully the system will be as sophisticad as to let the player micro-manage if wish be... There's just no way I can imaigne them bringing in a complex system that'd auto-manage a way that'd appease or even out-do human players who got a base experience with the game.

I think the provinces are going to work like theaters from empire, meaning that while they contain many regions the tax policies for all of them must be the same, although it sounds like they may also share buildings and other functions, we will see

[Sol Invictus]

Sounds awesome so far but so long to wait. I really want to see some actual gameplay videos and the map of course.

[Julio-Claudian]

"History inspires; truth is stranger than fiction,"

Indeed.

[swoosh so]

Did anyone else hear that you cant manage individual provinces? cant remember where i read that but that sounds worrying!

[BeastG33]

"Close-up, we want the men to feel more human," he said. "We've got facial animations, emotional interactions between men, so that if the guy next to me gets hit by an arrow, I'll react to that.

I've always thought this was missing from TW! Even in Shogun 2, which is a beautiful game on an absurdly awesome engine, I thought it looked cheesy that guys had zero reaction to arrow volleys and stuff unless they got killed by one. The thought of a volley going into soldiers and seeing a few guys stop and maybe tend to their buddies for a second, or simply stagger backwards out of the way of a falling comrade... just sounds amazing.

[Sol Invictus]

Sounds like they are expanding on the wounded animations from FOTS. Having individual animations for reaction to missle fire and casualties will be great.

[Holger Danske]

Sounds like they are expanding on the wounded animations from FOTS. Having individual animations for reaction to missle fire and casualties will be great.

Actual formation combat and sensible combat mechanics would be much better as they would add something useful to the game...

[Amorphos]

I didn’t like the sound of this;

"artilleries on ships can "tear down cities".

Did that ever happen? I doubt it, and I wouldn’t want to see it, I don’t want anything that will make it easy ~ and it sounds like the game is going to be easy.
Ship catapult could have a small effect but mostly very inaccurate with limited ammo.