I want a website!! Help!!

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 06:51 PM

I want to a website, I don't know how to make one or update one or how to get hosting, please help!

**krazykarl** · June 30, 2006, 07:04 PM

Do you want to spend money? You can get hosting for free, but its very limited, and usually includes adds. You have to spend money to register a domain (as ooposed to something like www.tripod.com/mynewwebstie.html).
To create pages you can do it in straight HTML with notepad, HTML is not a very hard thing to grasp and you could probably pick it up from one of the many online tutorials (www.w3schools.com is pretty good and the tutorials are free, I paid the $75 and got my XHTML/CSS certification from there)
CSS gets a bit complicated, but still not too bad. PHP and ASP require a grasp of how to program and require the correct modules to be installed on your hosting server, so as a beginner I would stay away from that.
You can get various WYSIWYG editors out there, there are free ones, but I like dreamweaver, it however costs like $400. whatever you do, dont use frontpage, it creates the most god awful HTML code known to exist (well next to that generated by WORD, im just not even going there)

You can just create some files in notepad and load them up locally if you just want to test the waters with HTML editing.

Here is a basic sample if you want it.
just copy this into notepad, save it as a .html file, and open it to see what it looks like.

<html>
<head>
<title> My newfangled webpage </title>
</head>
<body>
<h1>My Webpage ROX0rz</h1>
</body>
<html>

just remember to close all tags you open, and to indent your code HTML properly. (please note I tried to put proper indentation in here, but the forum stripps out all my indenting spaces and wont let me put tabs in.)

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 07:10 PM

i't won't let me save that as HTML Under enconding?

**Ragabash** · June 30, 2006, 07:17 PM

There are also graphical programs for making internet sites if you are not familiar with creating websites, but it is always better to use HTML code yourself. These programs are most of the time chargeable and only few are free.

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 07:18 PM

So can I have adds on an HTML site?

**Erik** · June 30, 2006, 07:19 PM

I'm not sure if this is considered advertising because I'm reacting to a direct question.
If this is against forum rules please remove this post.

A friend of mine offers website hosting.
You can find his site here:
www.freecpanels.com
You can get 25MB storage and 500MB transfer for free, that should be enough to try it out.

His aim is to make it as easy as possible to create a website.
All necessary software like PHP and MySQL is already installed, and you can control everything trough a simple browser interface.
So you don't need to install anything: just register and upload your files using your browser (or you can use ftp, whatever you prefer)

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 07:23 PM

so how exactly do i get a wordpad file to turn into a website?

**Erik** · June 30, 2006, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by greek302

so how exactly do i get a wordpad file to turn into a website?

Just rename the file.

for example:
"main.txt" -> "main.html"

Originally Posted by greek302

So can I have adds on an HTML site?

You mean you want to add Goole adds or something?
I think you can with HTML, but it might require PHP, I'm not sure.

PHP isn't difficult, btw, it's basically HTML with some extra tags.
But you need a server that supports PHP to make it work. (freecpanels has this standard, but I don't think other free hosting have this option since PHP takes up a lot of processing speed on the server)

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 07:35 PM

I am saving it as a Txt file is that whatI am supposed to do?

**Erik** · June 30, 2006, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by greek302

I am saving it as a Txt file is that whatI am supposed to do?

Yes.
Afterwards you can rename the file into a ".html" file.

Notice that HTML files are realy just plain textfiles.
Only inside the files are certain HTML tags, like "<html>" and "<head>" etc.
Have you got a place to host your site yet?
They usually come with a standard homepage, so you can just download that file and edit it to your liking.
(.html files can also be opened for editing in notepad, you just have to select "choose program...")

**krazykarl** · June 30, 2006, 07:44 PM

Here you go, this inspired me to write a guide in the basement.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...32#post1048732

**krazykarl** · June 30, 2006, 07:48 PM

as i mentioned in the guide, for a link

<a href='www.twcenter.net'>Total War Center</a>

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 07:52 PM

<html>
<head>
<title>Greek302's Place</title>
</head>
<body>
<h2>Hello</h2>
</body>
<html>

This is what I am working with now..How come when I view it I only see hello and not greek302's place?

**Erik** · June 30, 2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by greek302

<html>
<head>
<title>Greek302's Place</title>
</head>
<body>
<h2>Hello</h2>
</body>
<html>

This is what I am working with now..How come when I view it I only see hello and not greek302's place?

The "head" part is not displayed in the browser.
It's only used to give information about the file itself.
(your browser window wil show "Greek302's Place" on the top bar because you used the <title> tag)

Only the body part is displayed, so if you want "Greek302's Place" to show up you can write something like:

<html>
<head>
<title>Greek302's Place</title>
</head>
<body>
<h3>Greek302's Place</h3><br>
<h2>Hello</h2>
</body>
</html>

note: use the <br> to go to the next line, if you don't "Hello" wil be displayed next to "Palace"

**krazykarl** · June 30, 2006, 08:03 PM

you are also missing the / on your end HTML tag. the / denotes a 'close tag'.

also use <br /> instead of <br> its better XHTML form, <br> will still render, its just a bad habbit to get into.

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 08:20 PM

<html>
<head>
<title>Greek302's Place</title>
</head>
<body bgcolorgreen>
<h1>Greek302's Place</h1><br>
<h4>Welcome to Greek302's place. Here I have posted my mods for multipe games including TES4: Oblivion, Rome Total War
and Civillization 4. I will aslo have information here about my in progress mods. If you wish to contact me my e-mail is greek302@yahoo.com. Thanks for stopping by!</h4>
</body>
</html>

how do I get my e-mail adress red? and I can't seem to change the background at all.

**krazykarl** · June 30, 2006, 08:26 PM

you cant change the default colours for things like links without using CSS, thats a whole new can of worms.

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 08:28 PM

erick said you can put pictures in as a background..how is that done?

**krazykarl** · June 30, 2006, 08:36 PM

just as you would as if you were going to specify a colour

<body background="http://www.w3schools.com/clouds.gif">

as I said, either check out my guide or www.w3schools.com most of your questions can be answered there.

**greek302** · June 30, 2006, 08:54 PM

Sorry for the hassle...

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