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    Default Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Former US President, and the only President to actually earn his Nobel peace prize wrote a rather compelling article in the mouthpiece of the Democrat party, the New York Times:

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    THE United States is abandoning its role as the global champion of human rights.

    Revelations that top officials are targeting people to be assassinated abroad, including American citizens, are only the most recent, disturbing proof of how far our nation’s violation of human rights has extended. This development began after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and has been sanctioned and escalated by bipartisan executive and legislative actions, without dissent from the general public. As a result, our country can no longer speak with moral authority on these critical issues.

    While the country has made mistakes in the past, the widespread abuse of human rights over the last decade has been a dramatic change from the past. With leadership from the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights was adopted in 1948 as “the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world.” This was a bold and clear commitment that power would no longer serve as a cover to oppress or injure people, and it established equal rights of all people to life, liberty, security of person, equal protection of the law and freedom from torture, arbitrary detention or forced exile.

    The declaration has been invoked by human rights activists and the international community to replace most of the world’s dictatorships with democracies and to promote the rule of law in domestic and global affairs. It is disturbing that, instead of strengthening these principles, our government’s counterterrorism policies are now clearly violating at least 10 of the declaration’s 30 articles, including the prohibition against “cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.”

    Recent legislation has made legal the president’s right to detain a person indefinitely on suspicion of affiliation with terrorist organizations or “associated forces,” a broad, vague power that can be abused without meaningful oversight from the courts or Congress (the law is currently being blocked by a federal judge). This law violates the right to freedom of expression and to be presumed innocent until proved guilty, two other rights enshrined in the declaration.

    In addition to American citizens’ being targeted for assassination or indefinite detention, recent laws have canceled the restraints in the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 to allow unprecedented violations of our rights to privacy through warrantless wiretapping and government mining of our electronic communications. Popular state laws permit detaining individuals because of their appearance, where they worship or with whom they associate.

    Despite an arbitrary rule that any man killed by drones is declared an enemy terrorist, the death of nearby innocent women and children is accepted as inevitable. After more than 30 airstrikes on civilian homes this year in Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai has demanded that such attacks end, but the practice continues in areas of Pakistan, Somalia and Yemen that are not in any war zone. We don’t know how many hundreds of innocent civilians have been killed in these attacks, each one approved by the highest authorities in Washington. This would have been unthinkable in previous times.

    These policies clearly affect American foreign policy. Top intelligence and military officials, as well as rights defenders in targeted areas, affirm that the great escalation in drone attacks has turned aggrieved families toward terrorist organizations, aroused civilian populations against us and permitted repressive governments to cite such actions to justify their own despotic behavior.

    Meanwhile, the detention facility at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, now houses 169 prisoners. About half have been cleared for release, yet have little prospect of ever obtaining their freedom. American authorities have revealed that, in order to obtain confessions, some of the few being tried (only in military courts) have been tortured by waterboarding more than 100 times or intimidated with semiautomatic weapons, power drills or threats to sexually assault their mothers. Astoundingly, these facts cannot be used as a defense by the accused, because the government claims they occurred under the cover of “national security.” Most of the other prisoners have no prospect of ever being charged or tried either.

    At a time when popular revolutions are sweeping the globe, the United States should be strengthening, not weakening, basic rules of law and principles of justice enumerated in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. But instead of making the world safer, America’s violation of international human rights abets our enemies and alienates our friends.

    As concerned citizens, we must persuade Washington to reverse course and regain moral leadership according to international human rights norms that we had officially adopted as our own and cherished throughout the years.

    Jimmy Carter, the 39th president, is the founder of the Carter Center and the recipient of the 2002 Nobel Peace Prize.


    Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/25/op...cord.html?_r=1

    analysis:
    http://www.closeguantanamo.org/Artic...-of-Guantanamo

    Of course, this comes as an embarrassment to Obama's campaign for re-election, given that he won on a promised platform of a more nobler stewardship of US foreign policy.

    Further analysis by journalists who haven't sold out, document that Obama's current stewardship would violate no less than 10 articles of the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights:
    Our government is now violating at least 10 of the 30 articles in the United Nation’s Universal Declaration of Human Rights including the prohibition against cruel and inhuman punishment, says Carter. This is made all the worse by the United States being a primary leader of adoption of the Declaration in 1948. We are now violating precepts that we used to champion...Not only is the current administration engaging in massive violations of human rights, it is also counterproductive to the presumed goal of stopping terrorism. Instead, our blundering contempt for human rights, no doubt bolstered by a mistaken belief in American Exceptionalism that allows us to do whatever we want, is creating more enemies for us. Instead, our actions need to live up to our words.
    Source:http://ivn.us/2012/06/30/jimmy-carte...-human-rights/

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Is Carter serious? He has a point about Guantanamo, but drone strikes? Seriously?

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Azoth View Post
    Is Carter serious? He has a point about Guantanamo, but drone strikes? Seriously?
    Yeah, seriously. Ending a civilian's life is human right violation.

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Look, another anti-Obama thread by Exarch...

    And Carter is talking about the US government and its policies, not singling out Obama, so perhaps you need to get a stronger set of glasses and change the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seether View Post
    Look, another anti-Obama thread by Exarch...

    And Carter is talking about the US government and its policies, not singling out Obama, so perhaps you need to get a stronger set of glasses and change the title.
    hey, just because 90% of the mudpit threads he starts are negative about the US doesent mean he has an issue with the US, he starts threads when theres news thats critical of places like Russia and China too...(Checks Exarchs thread history) or not
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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Of all the things the US goverment has done, he points out Obama?

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    Kinda ed up how leftists cant miss a beat, if they stand up for unjust actions they've just GOT to somehow insult the entire idea of America being a special or important country.
    Quote Originally Posted by saxdude View Post
    Of all the things the US goverment has done, he points out Obama?
    Maybe because, oh I donno, Obama is the one doing these policies? wtf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squiggle View Post
    Kinda ed up how leftists cant miss a beat, if they stand up for unjust actions they've just GOT to somehow insult the entire idea of America being a special or important country.Maybe because, oh I donno, Obama is the one doing these policies? wtf.
    It all has been done since bush and worse, Yet I see not critisism of the other presidents.

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    I see that Carter's still his crappy old self from his term as President. These Drone strikes have done wonders against Al-Qaeda! Also, there is certainly no proof or evidence as of now that innocents were caught in the blast! And even if there were any, humph! War is war.


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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    And the Exarch smear campaign keeps rolling...

    What exactly is your issue with Obama? That he happens to be the president of the country that is not China? I mean as ridiculous as that sounds that is actually it, isn't it? Just one giant smear campaign aimed at the US that takes many forms.
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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Grouchio View Post
    I see that Carter's still his crappy old self from his term as President. These Drone strikes have done wonders against Al-Qaeda! Also, there is certainly no proof or evidence as of now that innocents were caught in the blast! And even if there were any, humph! War is war.
    That is because anyone who happens to be in the blast area is defined as a militant.
    http://news.antiwar.com/2012/05/29/a...et-drone-wars/
    Quote Originally Posted by From the link
    Mr. Obama embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties that did little to box him in. It in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, according to several administration officials, unless there is explicit intelligence posthumously proving them innocent.
    And it’s not war if you’re bombing people in countries you are not at war with (and you are).
    What if another country started bombing ‘militant civilians’ in the United States? That’d be alright with you guys, yeah?
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    Haha, Nobel peace prize winner vs Nobel peace prize winner, I wonder which one is more peaceful.
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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Where exactly does Carter single out Obama? All I can see is Carter accusing the US Government of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Where exactly does Carter single out Obama? All I can see is Carter accusing the US Government of this.
    Obama happens to be the President of said US Government.

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Again, Carter criticises the US Government and not Obama himself.

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Quote Originally Posted by Kralle18 View Post
    Again, Carter criticises the US Government and not Obama himself.
    Again, they're synonyms.
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    George Carlin was right

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    Default Re: Jimmy Carter Accuses Obama of Widespread Abuse of Human Rights

    Oh look, two of my ten least favorite presidents are fighting about stuff.

    Am I supposed to be shocked that the soft and hard left are feuding?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Col. Tartleton View Post

    Am I supposed to be shocked that the soft and hard left are feuding?
    Since when Obama and Carter are left?
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoptolemos View Post
    Since when Obama and Carter are left?
    American politics, not international politics dude. I know by most other standards, Democrats aren't really left in the true sense of the word.
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